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Alena Ventrallis
Vengeance Unbound
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.08.27 20:56:00 -
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What if precision enhancers affected active scans as well as passive ones?
Rest in peace, oh Captain, my Captain.
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Vitharr Foebane
Terminal Courtesy
Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.08.27 20:58:00 -
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scouts would cry tears of blood and lynch CCP
Amarr: Assault V, Scout V, Sentinel V, Commando V, Logistics IV
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Scheneighnay McBob
Cult of Gasai
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Posted - 2014.08.27 21:08:00 -
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I would rather not have half-hour active scans have the precision of amarr scout passive scans
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Alena Ventrallis
Vengeance Unbound
Dark Taboo
1606
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Posted - 2014.08.27 21:09:00 -
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I think it would be an interesting experiment. This would mean that no one could hide from a GalLogi Duvolle focused scanner, but then, they would only show up for a few seconds, and the scan range is quite narrow. Especially with Amarr scouts having limited high slots with which to place enhancers to accentuate their precision bonus, it would give active scanners a new lease on life. Plus it wouldn't be hard to revert if it was OP.
Rest in peace, oh Captain, my Captain.
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Robocop Junior
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.08.27 21:11:00 -
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I heard this was happening in Hotfix Zebra.
If strength were all, tiger would not fear scorpion.
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Aramis Madrigal
SVER True Blood
Public.Disorder.
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Posted - 2014.08.27 21:42:00 -
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This would allow a gal logi to scan anything for a negligible cost. Depending on circumstances, you may not even have to use a focused scanner.
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Alena Ventrallis
Vengeance Unbound
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.08.27 21:44:00 -
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However, that scan is only good for a limited time. This can be negated by a GalLogi carrying multiple scanners, but that means he gives up carrying other equipment. I think it would make things interesting, especially considering the best possible passive scans are on the Amarr scout, which the Gallente, and now Caldari, can get under with a single dampener. This evens out the playing field some. Plus, we can always adjust active scanner strength.
Rest in peace, oh Captain, my Captain.
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.08.27 22:56:00 -
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Alena Ventrallis wrote:However, that scan is only good for a limited time. This can be negated by a GalLogi carrying multiple scanners, but that means he gives up carrying other equipment. I think it would make things interesting, especially considering the best possible passive scans are on the Amarr scout, which the Gallente, and now Caldari, can get under with a single dampener. This evens out the playing field some. Plus, we can always adjust active scanner strength.
Btw, the best scan strength is the gal Logi.
Passive scans should never lose to active (precision wise). I never understood why CCP doesn't follow this.
You have to sacrifice so much more to be a useful passive scanner. When the Cal scout stop had the bonus, I had to sacrifice 1/3 of all my slots (which comes out to about half my potential ehp, not to mention other mods I could have used) for scan mods (and even still every other scout could dodge me), and even then I could only scan out to like 30-35m.
GalLogies sacrifice 1 slot (2-3 for constant scanning) and absolutely no gank or tank whatsoever. Then they get 60-200m scans at 60-90 degrees while still almost matching my suit in strength.
This is why the Cal scout was the best scan suit. It had the ability to be a strong scanner and be survivable (though not as survivable as the Amarr is currently), but if it really wanted to, it could counter all but the most dampened scouts (and even force them into gimped fits) while sacrificing almost all of its combat capability. I say remove all of its range and dampening bonuses and give it its precision back (perhaps with a NK bonus or something too for kicks). |
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