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Anmol Singh
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
841
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Posted - 2014.08.27 15:55:00 -
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Running 500k isk tanks is stupid only to lose them to a swarm of militia tanks. For one "good tank" you can have 10-9 militia ones that are almost = effective. Sad CCP. Sad to see vehicles have been dumbed down to sh*t.
Sagaris lover!!!
Commando <3
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
639
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Posted - 2014.08.27 15:58:00 -
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well as i see it your only useing standard tanks with standard or above turrets and moduals.. when adv HAVs come back into game then they might be worth the isk and show a clear distinction between militia and adv.. as the turrets already do.. ie proto blaster eats militia blaster tanks 2x faster then militia tank can damage proto blaster tank.
[[LogiBro in Training]]
Level 1 Forum Pariah
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Scheneighnay McBob
Cult of Gasai
5821
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Posted - 2014.08.27 16:07:00 -
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You're spending your SP wrong.
Put it into skills that make your cheap-ass MLT HAVs better.
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Ghost Kaisar
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
6738
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Posted - 2014.08.27 16:07:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Running 500k isk tanks is stupid only to lose them to a swarm of militia tanks. For one "good tank" you can have 10-9 militia ones that are almost = effective. Sad CCP. Sad to see vehicles have been dumbed down to sh*t.
I like to believe that it's the driver not the vehicle
I've seen Good tankers in Sica's trash proto fit tanks
I've seen Bad tankers in proto tanks get smashed by a decent MLT fit.
FA's Stabber Extraordinaire
Minmatar Enthusiast
Explosions and Bulletstorm? Count me in!
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Julius Vindice
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
356
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Posted - 2014.08.27 16:18:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Running 500k isk tanks is stupid only to lose them to a swarm of militia tanks. For one "good tank" you can have 10-9 militia ones that are almost = effective. Sad CCP. Sad to see vehicles have been dumbed down to sh*t. I like to believe that it's the driver not the vehicle I've seen Good tankers in Sica's trash proto fit tanks I've seen Bad tankers in proto tanks get smashed by a decent MLT fit.
It's true, I've personally seen my brother solo 2 gunnlogi's with a tricked out soma and win. Part of tanking is skill and having people on the ground that can warn you if your about to get sandwitched by a swarm of sicas or whatever is even better.
Julius Vindice... "Chase knowledge, not passion".
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Mejt0
Made in Poland...
E-R-A
413
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Posted - 2014.08.27 16:36:00 -
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Julius Vindice wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Running 500k isk tanks is stupid only to lose them to a swarm of militia tanks. For one "good tank" you can have 10-9 militia ones that are almost = effective. Sad CCP. Sad to see vehicles have been dumbed down to sh*t. I like to believe that it's the driver not the vehicle I've seen Good tankers in Sica's trash proto fit tanks I've seen Bad tankers in proto tanks get smashed by a decent MLT fit. It's true, I've personally seen my brother solo 2 gunnlogi's with a tricked out soma and win. Part of tanking is skill and having people on the ground that can warn you if your about to get sandwitched by a swarm of sicas or whatever is even better.
Not really.
Even if youre driving forward/backward and ram gunlogi on nitro, he will be able to turn/spin like crazy.
Eg. I can turn my rail (veh+turret) faster than you can manevr with nitro turned on.
Caldari Loyalist
Markiplier fan.
Got 6815 WP only on wrecking tanks with Ion Cannon.
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Ryme Intrinseca
1640
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Posted - 2014.08.27 16:44:00 -
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What makes a MLT tanker beast? That's right kids, SP. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Cult of Gasai
5825
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Posted - 2014.08.27 16:50:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:What makes a MLT tanker beast? That's right kids, SP.
The only thing you need STD for is anti-tank.
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Anmol Singh
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
841
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Posted - 2014.08.27 16:56:00 -
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Julius Vindice wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:Running 500k isk tanks is stupid only to lose them to a swarm of militia tanks. For one "good tank" you can have 10-9 militia ones that are almost = effective. Sad CCP. Sad to see vehicles have been dumbed down to sh*t. I like to believe that it's the driver not the vehicle I've seen Good tankers in Sica's trash proto fit tanks I've seen Bad tankers in proto tanks get smashed by a decent MLT fit. It's true, I've personally seen my brother solo 2 gunnlogi's with a tricked out soma and win. Part of tanking is skill and having people on the ground that can warn you if your about to get sandwitched by a swarm of sicas or whatever is even better.
This only happens with tanks, I can be in my proto Amarr assault and I don't think I have once been killed by a militia suit.
Sagaris lover!!!
Commando <3
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Ld Collins
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
166
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Posted - 2014.08.27 17:28:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Running 500k isk tanks is stupid only to lose them to a swarm of militia tanks. For one "good tank" you can have 10-9 militia ones that are almost = effective. Sad CCP. Sad to see vehicles have been dumbed down to sh*t.
The best thing you can do is put two small turrets on your tank and have some loyal gunners. |
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Vulpes Dolosus
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1926
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Posted - 2014.08.27 17:42:00 -
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*Sits here polishing my Python and Large XT missile Gunnlogi*
Yeah, a total waste. |
Brush Master
HavoK Core
RISE of LEGION
1293
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Posted - 2014.08.27 17:46:00 -
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Strategy and skill are the main factors here. Levels just give you more options and a small edge on what otherwise would be an equal battle with someone of equal skill. Nothing is fair in New Eden, suck it up.
Dust Veteran. June 2012 - ?
True Logi. Flying DS from the start.
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Rusty Shallows
Caldari State
2031
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Posted - 2014.08.27 17:50:00 -
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I still vividly recall how last year newberry HAV TCs were getting the short end of the stick from everything: Infantry, experienced TCs, and Logi LAVs. Forge-ing them actually felt bad.
I have a lot of respect for Classic Logis. New Eden could use more Healers.
Forums > Game: Biggest understatement ever
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Thumb Green
Raymond James Corp
1311
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Posted - 2014.08.27 17:54:00 -
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Same can be said about proto suits. It's not hard for a handful of militia starter suits to take down a proto suit; so quit your b!tching.
At the RJC we don't kick ass, we kick dick and we kick it hard.
Fix supply depots
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buzzzzzzz killllllllll
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
669
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Posted - 2014.08.27 19:49:00 -
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translation: my sp/isk crutch doesnt make me good enough to defeat decent skill or teamwork without my own
2 mlt suit players can and should beat 1 proto suit player, so why is it unfair for 2 mlt tankers to beat 1 proto tanker? |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
13074
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Posted - 2014.08.27 20:48:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Running 500k isk tanks is stupid only to lose them to a swarm of militia tanks. For one "good tank" you can have 10-9 militia ones that are almost = effective. Sad CCP. Sad to see vehicles have been dumbed down to sh*t.
Pfff all HAV should could around the 500K ISK ball park..... what irks me is that only shield tanks require skilled modules activation to win fights......
"We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
13074
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Posted - 2014.08.27 20:49:00 -
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buzzzzzzz killllllllll wrote:translation: my sp/isk crutch doesnt make me good enough to defeat decent skill or teamwork without my own
2 mlt suit players can and should beat 1 proto suit player, so why is it unfair for 2 mlt tankers to beat 1 proto tanker?
No its..... my 500k ISK (692K ISK in my case) HAV that is working with a team is instantly destroyed by ONE player derping around in a Jihad Jeep.
"We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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Anmol Singh
G0DS AM0NG MEN
General Tso's Alliance
849
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Posted - 2014.08.27 21:01:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:Same can be said about proto suits. It's not hard for a handful of militia starter suits to take down a proto suit; so quit your b!tching.
spam a team of 16 militias (make sure they are stock front line fits) suits at my proto heavy. I will mow down ever single suit no probelem. Same goes for my Amarr Assault while I sit on my freaking wiki triage hives.
Sagaris lover!!!
Commando <3
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Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
3126
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Posted - 2014.08.27 21:29:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:buzzzzzzz killllllllll wrote:translation: my sp/isk crutch doesnt make me good enough to defeat decent skill or teamwork without my own
2 mlt suit players can and should beat 1 proto suit player, so why is it unfair for 2 mlt tankers to beat 1 proto tanker? No its..... my 500k ISK (692K ISK in my case) HAV that is working with a team is instantly destroyed by ONE player derping around in a Jihad Jeep.
Remember how swarms and AV nades could easily handle jeeps
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Pvt Numnutz
Prophets of the Velocirapture
1844
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Posted - 2014.08.27 21:45:00 -
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I don't know what your talking about. If you have a couple gunners with av that can go into the map and give you real time info on the targets location and fov plus add awesome damage mlt tanks are just a paycheck.
Master Skyshark rider
Kaalaka dakka tamer
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
2342
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Posted - 2014.08.27 21:51:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:
This only happens with tanks, I can be in my proto Amarr assault and I don't think I have once been killed by a militia suit.
*Ahem*
Yes you have. How do I know?
I pulled the trigger. |
Death Shadow117
New Age Empire.
General Tso's Alliance
324
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Posted - 2014.08.27 21:58:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Running 500k isk tanks is stupid only to lose them to a swarm of militia tanks. For one "good tank" you can have 10-9 militia ones that are almost = effective. Sad CCP. Sad to see vehicles have been dumbed down to sh*t.
I hardly ever get killed by mlt tanks but its probably just how i tank.
Why?
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Death Shadow117
New Age Empire.
General Tso's Alliance
324
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Posted - 2014.08.27 21:59:00 -
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Apothecary Za'ki wrote:well as i see it your only useing standard tanks with standard or above turrets and moduals.. when adv HAVs come back into game then they might be worth the isk and show a clear distinction between militia and adv.. as the turrets already do.. ie proto blaster eats militia blaster tanks 2x faster then militia tank can damage proto blaster tank.
Good tank usually means pro mods not adv.
Why?
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
13076
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Posted - 2014.08.27 22:01:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:I still vividly recall how last year newberry HAV TCs were getting the short end of the stick from everything: Infantry, experienced TCs, and Logi LAVs. Forge-ing them actually felt bad.
But it pushed us newberry Tankers to do better.
I was soooooo much better at tanking at the end of 1.6 than I ever was after the tank changes..... so were most other tankers.
"We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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Death Shadow117
New Age Empire.
General Tso's Alliance
324
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Posted - 2014.08.27 22:02:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:*Sits here polishing my Python and Large XT missile Gunnlogi*
Yeah, a total waste.
EEEWWWW caldari vehicles make me throw up. Oh i have so much fun with sheild vehicles Particle cannon FTW.
Why?
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Thumb Green
Raymond James Corp
1315
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Posted - 2014.08.27 22:06:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Thumb Green wrote:Same can be said about proto suits. It's not hard for a handful of militia starter suits to take down a proto suit; so quit your b!tching. spam a team of 16 militias (make sure they are stock front line fits) suits at my proto heavy. I will mow down ever single suit no probelem. Same goes for my Amarr Assault while I sit on my freaking wiki triage hives.
Sure you can, cupcake.
At the RJC we don't kick ass, we kick dick and we kick it hard.
Fix supply depots
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Anjelique Avengineer
SHAKING BABIES
FACTION WARFARE ALLIANCE
17
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Posted - 2014.08.28 03:58:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Running 500k isk tanks is stupid only to lose them to a swarm of militia tanks. For one "good tank" you can have 10-9 militia ones that are almost = effective. Sad CCP. Sad to see vehicles have been dumbed down to sh*t.
Tonight I have lost 5 tanks.
2 to Incubus (not Mlt)
2 to missile gunnlogi (not Mlt) he had swarmers and gunner 1st time around, Ion maddy back up 2nd time around.
1 Rail gunnlogi with swarm support (not mlt)
My tanks cost about 535K ISK, and destroy mlt by blinking. If you are unable to use your over-head map and squad intel, then that is not the fault of the 500k tank nor the mlt tank, tis the fault of the tanker. |
THUNDERGROOVE
Fatal Absolution
1097
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Posted - 2014.08.28 04:07:00 -
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Nice to know you still haven't gotten good.
Amarrica!
It's Not Safe to Swim.
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Thurak1
Psygod9
952
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Posted - 2014.08.28 04:13:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:Same can be said about proto suits. It's not hard for a handful of militia starter suits to take down a proto suit; so quit your b!tching.
Or even just 1 militia heavy with a militia forge gun that the proto suit did not see in time and bap proto suit wasted and unable to be revived.
My favorite fittings to run are all very cheap. I play to push the objective and i dont like sitting around to wait. Most fittings i run cost between 10-20k. With how many proto suits and gunlogi tanks i have killed i will say it comes down to a few things. SP's, player skill, and situation.
If you are running proto but i am a heavy and i am wedged into a position that forces you to attack me in close range and from the front you are very unlikely to win even despite me running standard gear.
If your a tank running around with all the best gear but me and 3 other forge gun users manage to corner you its lights out for you ( and probably 1 forge gun ) |
Robocop Junior
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
792
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Posted - 2014.08.28 04:14:00 -
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My jihad jeep costs 9k.
If strength were all, tiger would not fear scorpion.
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Sooke Madique
New Eden Security Services
New Eden Conglomerate
0
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Posted - 2014.08.28 04:37:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:buzzzzzzz killllllllll wrote:translation: my sp/isk crutch doesnt make me good enough to defeat decent skill or teamwork without my own
2 mlt suit players can and should beat 1 proto suit player, so why is it unfair for 2 mlt tankers to beat 1 proto tanker? No its..... my 500k ISK (692K ISK in my case) HAV that is working with a team is instantly destroyed by ONE player derping around in a Jihad Jeep.
I was passenger in a jeep and this guy gets out the driver seat and starts tacking on about 6 detonation bombs to the damn bumper wondering what the hell he was doing and we take off and I never questioned why he would ever need to do that. Needless to say he rammed us into a sica while he bailed out and I stayed for the firework show and death by team mate.
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Julius Vindice
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
357
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Posted - 2014.08.28 11:06:00 -
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Robocop Junior wrote:My jihad jeep costs 9k.
Mine cost 0k and eviscerates anything from tanks to CRUs and produces lag when unleashed.
Julius Vindice... "Chase knowledge, not passion".
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Everything Dies
BIKINI BOTTOM BRIGADE
921
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Posted - 2014.08.28 12:27:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Running 500k isk tanks is stupid only to lose them to a swarm of militia tanks. For one "good tank" you can have 10-9 militia ones that are almost = effective. Sad CCP. Sad to see vehicles have been dumbed down to sh*t.
My two best friends when I'm running around in my Maddy:
1. Kill feed- always on the lookout for enemy tanks, particularly missiles
2. Scanners- the reason why I don't run Gunni tanks. I have two scanners equipped on my Maddy so that I can provide an almost continuous scan for my teammates in battle, plus it allows me to get the drop on unsuspecting tanks.
Honestly, though, the single most important factor that I've noticed in staying alive is having a proto turret equipped.
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