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bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 1028	Posted - 2014.08.25 13:50:00 - [1] - Quote This fitting has all the fitting optimization skills maxed. All of them. And still, I will never be able to fit a better flux grenade. After spending millions of SP I would've wasted them all because I'd still have to downgrade the Carthum Assault to compensate for my flux grenade. For the sake of ONE CPU, no less... http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/337/6443 For some reason beyond my comprehension, SMGs cost 6 less CPU than a ScP. It appears that the Caldari sidearms are heavier on PG, and the Magsec is the most difficult sidearm to fit. Ion Pistols are light on PG and heavy on CPU. Nova knives and flaylocks are the easiest to fit. This looks problematic to me. I hate to think of how it is for other suits like Minmatar Scouts. *Eternal Beings* - #76 in All Time WP - #90 in All Time Kills. Member since day one, 10 months ago.
BL4CKST4R La Muerte Eterna Dark Taboo 2954	Posted - 2014.08.25 16:22:00 - [2] - Quote bamboo x wrote: This fitting has all the fitting optimization skills maxed. All of them. And still, I will never be able to fit a better flux grenade. After spending millions of SP I would've wasted them all because I'd still have to downgrade the Carthum Assault to compensate for my flux grenade. For the sake of ONE CPU, no less... http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/337/6443 For some reason beyond my comprehension, SMGs cost 6 less CPU than a ScP. It appears that the Caldari sidearms are heavier on PG, and the Magsec is the most difficult sidearm to fit. Ion Pistols are light on PG and heavy on CPU. Nova knives and flaylocks are the easiest to fit. This looks problematic to me. I hate to think of how it is for other suits like Minmatar Scouts. Get a fw issue scrambler rifle. Nvm your talking about the pistol. Well get a fw version of your main rifle. supercalifragilisticexpialidocious
Zindorak 1.U.P 671	Posted - 2014.08.25 16:28:00 - [3] - Quote Yea Carthum Assault ScP need fitting cost reduction as with other amarr weapons Pokemon master! CCP undo ScP nerf. It hurt my feering very bad
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3010	Posted - 2014.08.26 00:05:00 - [4] - Quote I don't know what's more fail, that your stacking 4 plates or that your not using a breach ScP or a bolt pistol. Tanker/Logi/Assault
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 1039	Posted - 2014.08.26 00:09:00 - [5] - Quote Benjamin Ciscko wrote: I don't know what's more fail, that your stacking 4 plates or that your not using a breach ScP or a bolt pistol. breach has less DPS, genius and stacking 4 plates works wonders when you've got a minmatar logi. or any logi in general. why sacrifice 130 something HP for a mere 7.5 armor reps when a logi can do 120 something reps and seriously the ***** bolt pistol is a joke Eternal Beings** - #76 in All Time WP - #90 in All Time Kills. Member since day one, 10 months ago.
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 3011	Posted - 2014.08.26 02:43:00 - [6] - Quote bamboo x wrote: Benjamin Ciscko wrote: I don't know what's more fail, that your stacking 4 plates or that your not using a breach ScP or a bolt pistol. breach has less DPS, genius and stacking 4 plates works wonders when you've got a minmatar logi. or any logi in general. why sacrifice 130 something HP for a mere 7.5 armor reps when a logi can do 120 something reps and seriously the ******* bolt pistol is a joke Do you even strafe? Breach is just to chip into them and knock their shields down it doesn't need DPS the HMG has that the breach has the quick high alpha before they get into range. Bolt Pistol is pretty good at engage unfortunately for you it's a skill weapon. I at least applaud you for not using the OP burst if my memory serves me right. That is all have a good day. Tanker/Logi/Assault
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 1184	Posted - 2014.08.26 11:24:00 - [7] - Quote The ScP has a nasty headshot multiplier... If you want a weapon with high DPS you need to sacrifice something, nades/modules/weapon/equipment There is no point asking CCP to change fitting just so you can HP tank a suit with Proto weapons.. Change some of your modules for something more inventive than Tank n' Gank and you may find fittings to come together easier than the old school Dual tanking. But in-case your stubborn and think you should fit whatever you like... QQ CCP I can't fit Lai Dai AV, Boundless RE, Ishukone knives/cloak and over 600 hp on my scout Whilst stomping n00bs with a Kaalakiota Rail.... quit trying to balance your game, and make me OP!! WHY is this soo Broken.... I specced into it, I should be able to use whatever I like .. QQ ^^ LMAO Dust Logic <3 Innapropriate Irrelevence... Welcome to the Dust Forum, hang around to see why everyone else left :/
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 609	Posted - 2014.08.26 11:26:00 - [8] - Quote bamboo x wrote: This fitting has all the fitting optimization skills maxed. All of them. And still, I will never be able to fit a better flux grenade. After spending millions of SP I would've wasted them all because I'd still have to downgrade the Carthum Assault to compensate for my flux grenade. For the sake of ONE CPU, no less... http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/337/6443 For some reason beyond my comprehension, SMGs cost 6 less CPU than a ScP. It appears that the Caldari sidearms are heavier on PG, and the Magsec is the most difficult sidearm to fit. Ion Pistols are light on PG and heavy on CPU. Nova knives and flaylocks are the easiest to fit. This looks problematic to me. I hate to think of how it is for other suits like Minmatar Scouts. because SMG is not a high tech weapon.. where as SCP is LAZORS.. so stop fishing to get extra cpu to make an op build ;p [[LogiBro in Training]] Level 1 Forum Pariah
Pseudogenesis Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 374	Posted - 2014.08.26 21:34:00 - [9] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: The ScP has a nasty headshot multiplier... If you want a weapon with high DPS you need to sacrifice something, nades/modules/weapon/equipment There is no point asking CCP to change fitting just so you can HP tank a suit with Proto weapons.. Change some of your modules for something more inventive than Tank n' Gank and you may find fittings to come together easier than the old school Dual tanking. But in-case your stubborn and think you should fit whatever you like... QQ CCP I can't fit Lai Dai AV, Boundless RE, Ishukone knives/cloak and over 600 hp on my scout Whilst stomping n00bs with a Kaalakiota Rail.... quit trying to balance your game, and make me OP!! WHY is this soo Broken.... I specced into it, I should be able to use whatever I like .. QQ ^^ LMAO Dust Logic <3 Did you even read the post? A weapon more effective than the scrambler pistol is also easier to fit. That's not balanced. Stabby-stabber extraordinaire
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 1195	Posted - 2014.08.27 08:20:00 - [10] - Quote True, the SMG is too good I've said before but no-one cares as they love EZ mode. But that is not the issue here... he can't fit what he wants because ha has an over tanked fitting Innapropriate Irrelevence... Welcome to the Dust Forum, hang around to see why everyone else left :/

bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 1042	Posted - 2014.08.27 17:49:00 - [11] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: True, the SMG is too good I've said before but no-one cares as they love EZ mode. But that is not the issue here... he can't fit what he wants because he has an over tanked fitting It is the issue because it is the title of my thread. And trying to say a heavy is over tanked is like saying vegetables have too much fiber. When the bonus my suit gets is fitting an HMG and tanking damage from an HMG, I'm pretty sure the most effective method IS INDEED TO TANK AND GANK. And I wasn't dual tanking, derp. Quote: Do you even strafe? Breach is just to chip into them and knock their shields down it doesn't need DPS the HMG has that the breach has the quick high alpha before they get into range. Bolt Pistol is pretty good at engage unfortunately for you it's a skill weapon. I at least applaud you for not using the OP burst if my memory serves me right. That is all have a good day. Most of the time when I've finished switching back from my sidearm to my HMG I'm already dead. I use the ScP because a heavy's weakness is both heavy weapons have a damage profile that's weak to shields, and because an HMG's weakness is short range. I use the Carthum because not only does it have the best range, but the highest RoF and DPS of all scrambler pistols. I don't understand why you think the breach has "high alpha" because that is a very short threshold of time to be using a sidearm. Sure their shields might be out but what if your HMG is out of ammo? What if you're using a Forge? You're not going to chew through their armor as quickly as a Carthum would. Actually wow dude you're a genius. I just looked on proto fits and the Breach does far less damage per second to shields. Your "alpha damage" is a very low threshold that only affects scouts and non-caldari dropsuits. *Eternal Beings* - #76 in All Time WP - #90 in All Time Kills. Member since day one, 10 months ago.
TheD1CK Dead Man's Game 1196	Posted - 2014.08.27 18:06:00 - [12] - Quote You run a Heavy.. the suit with the the most base HP... It does not require that much Tank unless your only purpose is to be a Logi's ***** And then you have some back up fire so the sidearm is less needed anyway in terms of combat I'll leave you to your opinion, though seeking Tank and DPS is what wrecks balance in the first place I sincerly hope CCP do not alter that so Tanked Heavies can wreck face with a Boundless and a Carthum Innapropriate Irrelevence... Welcome to the Dust Forum, hang around to see why everyone else left :/
bamboo x Eternal Beings Proficiency V. 1042	Posted - 2014.08.27 18:19:00 - [13] - Quote TheD1CK wrote: You run a Heavy.. the suit with the the most base HP... It does not require that much Tank unless your only purpose is to be a Logi's *** And then you have some back up fire so the sidearm is less needed anyway in terms of combat I'll leave you to your opinion, though seeking Tank and DPS is what wrecks balance in the first place I sincerly hope CCP do not alter that so Tanked Heavies can wreck face with a Boundless and a Carthum Mostly my suit with no reps is for PC matches when I will be assigned a logi regardless of my fitting, so I might as well take advantage of it. I do run my proto heavy with armor reps but only for pubs and FW. Reps are for forge gunners not HMGs. Trust me if there was a module that increased strafe speed I'd be all over that like a pig in , but since the heavy's strafe is already so slow there's not much point in it. Then again with the Burst being so OP now it's arguable you might be right that it's not worth over-tanking... Nah. I just realized that a burst takes about two seconds to kill my heavy suit but there are factors like human error of the enemy not pulling the trigger fast enough, missing a couple rounds, and the logi repping you adding at least 120 armor per second to any damage you take. Better to have more armor on the Amarr Sent than risk your overall survivability based on one factor - the enemy's accuracy, which you can already strafe against with the plates on anyway. I do thank you for bringing this to my attention though. Now I've realized I could use the Viziam instead of the Carthum when I'm in a city map or sticking to close quarters in general, which allows me to use my C-9 Flux. Eternal Beings** - #76 in All Time WP - #90 in All Time Kills. Member since day one, 10 months ago.


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