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Nirwanda Vaughns
426th Infantry
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Posted - 2014.08.23 16:26:00 -
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honestly modded controllers really arn't that great y'know. they only really make combat rifle run a bit easier and ScR is really only good in close quarters because of the kick to it, same as with the TAC rifle the ScR also overheats far too quickly with a modded controller too especially if the RoF of the autofire is too high. the 'reset' on weapons like AR and ACR, AScR is nice but nothing really all that special. you can make excuses for the ScR but just face facts that the issue is that the damage is broken vs armor and despite it supposed to being a longer range weapon its still deadly in close range. the hip fire needs widening to that of a TAC rifle (the standard RR needs same too)
Rolling with the punches
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Nirwanda Vaughns
426th Infantry
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Posted - 2014.08.23 18:25:00 -
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VikingKong iBUN wrote:Stop trying to blame your own lack of ability on things that aren't actually true, it makes you look stupid.
You ever tried playing with KB/M? You should try it, you might notice that there's actually no difference in the speed at which you can strafe.
And don't even get me started on modded controllers, the amount of times I've been accused of using one just goes to show that most of you guys don't have a clue and will accuse anyone that kills you consistently.
Ahhh no!! there is a small benefit a M/KB offers. and thats being able to run forward at full speed and sidestepping by tapping 'A' and 'D' everything else is down to player skill with their controller just as you say 
not only that but using a M/KB will not make you a better player if you're a thourough bred console gamer (liek myself) who can't use M/KB. although on th erare occassion i get called onto my sniper alt i'll use my laser mouse to snipe with (and perhaps laser rifle) simply because of slightly finer movement over the DS3 but really guys just accept that sometimes the other players are better than you lol
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Nirwanda Vaughns
426th Infantry
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Posted - 2014.08.23 19:56:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:VikingKong iBUN wrote:Stop trying to blame your own lack of ability on things that aren't actually true, it makes you look stupid.
You ever tried playing with KB/M? You should try it, you might notice that there's actually no difference in the speed at which you can strafe.
And don't even get me started on modded controllers, the amount of times I've been accused of using one just goes to show that most of you guys don't have a clue and will accuse anyone that kills you consistently. Ahhh no!! there is a small benefit a M/KB offers. and thats being able to run forward at full speed and sidestepping by tapping 'A' and 'D' everything else is down to player skill with their controller just as you say not only that but using a M/KB will not make you a better player if you're a thourough bred console gamer (liek myself) who can't use M/KB. although on th erare occassion i get called onto my sniper alt i'll use my laser mouse to snipe with (and perhaps laser rifle) simply because of slightly finer movement over the DS3 but really guys just accept that sometimes the other players are better than you lol Slightly lol! Nice choice of words, but no one here has one time said they are worried about players playing the game, as it is, better did they? They were referring to players who use outside mechanics to "get gud" lol! Grab a normal controller and kill me, and I won't say a word on the forums about it. people don't come to the forums beacause of things that work fine, and demand CCP change things that work?! Don't any of you want to be truly good? I know, without a shadow of a doubt, that when I kill a guy it was completely legit! No "small benefit a M/KB offers" has had a hand in me killing anyone! No "sidestepping by tapping A and D"?! Nope! All raw skill here! No modded controllers?! No extra fast fire rates here unless I change to a BK-42 from a Gek-38! I'm a real thoroughbred console gamer! I just thought it was cool when I started dust to be able to plug up a keyboard and type, but definitely couldn't play with it lol! Not taking anything from guys who do, don't get me wrong, but if it wasn't some type of advantage to it would you play with M/KB? If the controller prove to be faster with movement and strafe speed would you still play with the M/KB?
you skip over the part where i said i use DS3? and even though i have access to a modded controller it's no use to me because i'm a logi through n through since i startd this game over 2yrs ago so having a modded controller doesn't work with my repper and its a proper ball ache turning it on/off and on my logi suits i use the ever faithful (and OP) Rail Rifle because a standard RR still outperforms my Boundless CR even with modded controller 
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Nirwanda Vaughns
426th Infantry
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Posted - 2014.08.23 20:48:00 -
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Also worth noting the reason i'm a logi is cos i'm generally pretty bad at FPS games, again due to poor dexterity in my hand when the cold weather comes in.
but as the op has mentioned. the only reason a lot of folk use certain weapons is because they're OP and the FOTM and they're the ones crying when the nerf bat comes along. look at all the MD/Flaylock spam, laser spam, TAC rifle spam over the months and years. people find trends and abuse the 'easy mode' for easy kills, but thats generally broken mechanics and not outside modifications. you can't force a 1000rpm gun to fire at 1100rmp via a modded controller. a ScR will overheat faster using one because of the speed you fire. but there are certain weapons out there that are over used simply because they're OP. on my alt i have a militia rail rifle (on the caldari frontline suit). zero skills in any weaponry at the moment yet the other day i had a proto heavy run for cover when i was shooting at him from about 60m. there is clearly something wrong there. thats not via a modded controller, thats via some broken a*s mechanics
Rolling with the punches
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Nirwanda Vaughns
426th Infantry
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Posted - 2014.08.23 23:47:00 -
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Bradric Banewolf wrote:Nirwanda Vaughns wrote:Also worth noting the reason i'm a logi is cos i'm generally pretty bad at FPS games, again due to poor dexterity in my hand when the cold weather comes in.
but as the op has mentioned. the only reason a lot of folk use certain weapons is because they're OP and the FOTM and they're the ones crying when the nerf bat comes along. look at all the MD/Flaylock spam, laser spam, TAC rifle spam over the months and years. people find trends and abuse the 'easy mode' for easy kills, but thats generally broken mechanics and not outside modifications. you can't force a 1000rpm gun to fire at 1100rmp via a modded controller. a ScR will overheat faster using one because of the speed you fire. but there are certain weapons out there that are over used simply because they're OP. on my alt i have a militia rail rifle (on the caldari frontline suit). zero skills in any weaponry at the moment yet the other day i had a proto heavy run for cover when i was shooting at him from about 60m. there is clearly something wrong there. thats not via a modded controller, thats via some broken a*s mechanics
Trust me when you get hit by any weapon via modded controller, you will recognize the difference instantly! The heat build-up in the ScR is over time not per shot. So it seems the fix, if they can't nullify the modded controller, is to make heat build-up per shot! As far as the tact AR and CR goes the only logical fix, barring attacking the modded controller, was a dmg nerf so severe it killed the weapon class for months for the AR?! If modded controller users aren't careful the CR is next?! I would hate that very much, but what exactly do you want CCP to do? Just let their player base get cheated? In my opinion the ability to apply the effects of outside modifications should be removed. That way the only modifications are the ones in-game that were intended to be used. If I can mod a fitting that is effective to the point of wiping the floor with everyone, then other players should be able to setup that fit as well right? Modded controllers, M/KB, and any other outside mod(like lag switches) aren't in-game available. The game was intended for advantage and disadvantage. Thank you to everyone for the feedback!
well just given it a quick blast with the CRW and it still blows up pretty quick (templar sentinel) and quite shocking accuracy too (using an Intensafire2.0 board, mode 2 used) and that was even with pulsing the rapid fire too the wepaon overheated and blew after a few shots. the tac AR kicks like a bucking bronco nowdays too ever since the 'nerf' bout 18months ago. the only gun to truly benefit from a modded controller is a CR and i think in recent months ccp may have altered the kick on those too but even in close range with hip fire its a nasty lil weapon.
in all honesty the whole weapon range need s alook at. ARs are supposed to be short range, highest damage but its simply not the case. ARs are out gunned in close range and at distanc eby every other weapon. even a Militia CR wil out gun a Duvolle these days. the high damage/long range rifles need hip fire boxes somewher einbetween where they are now and the sniper rifles and the assault variants need damge/ranges adjusting to fit the racial profiles of +damage, -range with the assault RR doing furthest damage but lowest DPS
Never argue with an idiot. they bring you down to their level and beat you through experience
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Nirwanda Vaughns
426th Infantry
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Posted - 2014.08.24 10:48:00 -
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i think the charge sniper rifle needs to be changed back to where it can't hold the charge again. makes it harder to use but increase the damage to reward the guys who can actually snipe
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Nirwanda Vaughns
426th Infantry
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Posted - 2014.08.24 11:55:00 -
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Also while thinking about the ScR... didn't it used to be heat buld up per shot? cos i'm sure when i first tried it our i got about 3-4 shots off before blew up and that was on the Amarr Assault? because that would fix a lot of issues too goign back to that
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