Bro, console kids are a different breed than PC players. Im pretty sure CCP knows what the PC crowd wants. Things you mentioned are console gamer gripes dude.

Bro, console kids are a different breed than PC players. Im pretty sure CCP knows what the PC crowd wants. Things you mentioned are console gamer gripes dude.

A lot of what I talked about and the games I mentioned are on PC. And people enjoy them. And does CCP really know the PC crowd? They know their community but not THE PC COMMUNITY. Things like costumization are not something just from console, they are mostly from PC actually.

Damn this thread is like a badposting trainwreck.

I can't not watch.

Bro, console kids are a different breed than PC players. Im pretty sure CCP knows what the PC crowd wants. Things you mentioned are console gamer gripes dude.

No they are not bro. But console kids are more into customization for their shooters than PC crowd. Console kids are more inclined to NPE compared to a PC player whose first and probably only question is, "what are the commands?"

Yoy may thank me OP for bringing attention to your thread. Watch me work bro!

Mr. Feline, PC shootets hardly ever have a NPE. This is truth. Unless its one that has a laughable campaign which doubles as the NPE. I dont care what EVE neckbeards from spreadsheets in space thinks. PC shooters hardly ever have NPE

Because most shooters are as simple as "Aim here, collect bacon".

Also, you might think they don't have NPE, but the most well crafted NPE is a subtle one, that you don't notice, it only nudges you in the right direction.
Look for the original metroid for further reading.

Bro, there is no subtlety. You know that. It either has it or dont. Console gamers love the hand holding dude.

Either you're a troll, or incredibly stupid.
Either way, ain't worth talking with you.

In your whole OP I see nothing about vehicles that ccp needs to get right in legion

Your thread is incomplete therefore obsolete, Vehicles and their pilots are absolute.

Dude you're such a sissy. Anybody that bring up points you dont have a reply for, you call them stupid or a troll. But whatever dude. You cant win em all you girly man

Bro, console kids are a different breed than PC players. Im pretty sure CCP knows what the PC crowd wants. Things you mentioned are console gamer gripes dude.

No they are not bro. But console kids are more into customization for their shooters than PC crowd.
Console kids are more inclined to NPE compared to a PC player whose first and probably only question is, "what are the commands?"

First I want to say one of the things that you did wrong with DUST, which is letting people from the BETA keep their SPs to the actual game, you should not have done that, instead, you should'ev given a "Tester Double SP" for like a week or something and give those who paid you money their aurum back and the packs back (Mercenary, etc. etc.).
Okay, now with Legion:

1) New player experience:
If you are going to transfer SP (portion of fully) from the players from DUST to Legion then you should give something to new players to be able to catch up. Like a double SP bonus for a whole week. Also, it would be really cool to have a daily "1st Win Double SP" like in the game Robocraft. Basiccly you have double SP on the 1st win of the day (everyday, and this can also be for veterans).

2) Costumization:
Now, we know you talk a lot about being able to fit whatever you want and that's cool, but gamers want more. We like to stand out in the battlefield. So it would be cool if you could actually costumize your player model with camoflages. You could have most of these as AURUM only, but also have some that are earnable like Assignments in Battlefield. This would give something for the players to have a small objective (like a fun pursuit with a cool reward).
You should also have camos for your weapons and even your repair tools (some love for the cool logis too :P) We like to look at our gun and think that it is actually unique (even if it is not), we like to look different). So CCP please add this.

3) New dropsuits:
I feel like this is something required, my idea is having a medium and heavy Anti-Vehicle speacializations. Now these can have bonuses to ammo or something (you decide CCP). With this people could actually have speacialized AV suit to fight thos Tank spammers :). Now, I think it would also be cool to have some AV equiment to add more gear for infantry to fight off vehicles. The heavy specialyzation could have one equiment slot, you could choose to either lock that slot only for Anti-Vehicle equiment or just let players put there whatever they want.

4) Costumization - Weapon Specific:
Now I'm not talking about camos, but instead actual physic costumization (scopes, grips, magazines, barrels, etc.). I personally don't like having different variants (Combat Rifle, Assault Combat Rifle, etc.) It would be cool if you had a default weapon and then be able to costumize it. The player can make the Combat Rifle become the Assault Combat rifle with one change only. Now this would mean that you should not have per example the scope on the standard CR, you should just have the ironsights (such as with every other weapon). This would have a bigger variaty of changes to the weapons. To do this though, you have to make actual mods, all these mods (as I said scopes, grips, barrels and all that) can be based on some real present day mods but with a few tweaks here and there, but you can also create some by yourself.

5) Players and the market:
Kind of like in Planetside 2 it would be cool if players could make some camos to sell on the market for AURUM. Now, these camos should be first sent to CCP and then CCP would choose to integrate them to the maket or not. Like in PS2, the players would recieve a part of the money that other people pay for their camos, not only that but their name should come up on the camouflage description ("Created by...") just to give some more credit to the creators.

6) Racial HUDs:
I have seen here in the forums some really cool ideas and I like one that has different colors for every race. I'm not sure if the HUD would change with every suit or if it should be by the race that you choose at the beginning. Still, a very cool idea in my opinion. In addition though, there were other ideas like the ammo being at the side of your weapon. I too have an idea (not really HUD, but still) which is a sound like a bip bip (like in Defiance) when you shields are low. This would get the player awared of being shot a bit faster than a hit indicator.

Okay, I think that is all (I hope I haven't forgotten anything). I just have to say that although I won't be playing Legion (because I don't have a good PC :c ) I still want to help CCP and help it's games. By the way, I hope that the game is actual Free to Play like DUST and not a month subscription like in EVE. You could have a "Premium" (from Battlefield) like service that would give you camos and per example access to a community test server. This (being Free to Play without month subscription) would let more players into the game and maybe if they wanted to they could buy that service.
Thanks for reading, let me know what you think.

No.

Guys, there's one more point added that I forgot yesterday. Tell me what you think.

I think your trying to make dessert, from food that was put in the cart, that was put in front of the horse.

How about they get maps, suits and weapons first, then work on the "custom" stuff.

No getting rid of weapons. There's no way to turn an AR, into a CR, into a RR, into a MD, into a PC just by changing a scope or a grip.

Racial HUDs are glitter and unnecessary until the game actually works.

Also, if your first language is English, learn to spell check

My first language isn't english, though I believe I have a decent spelling. I agree with you when you talk about more maps, suits and weapons, but I think that's something CCP already knows (at least on maps), but weapons I did talk about. I also agree with you about the Racial HUDs, but I think it is something easy to do that won't take a day to do (just change the colors, I think it's enough, then if you want to enhance that you can). But I don't understand what you mean with "getting rid of weapons", I never said that, I mean, change their names and turn those names to weapon classes.

I personally don't like having different variants (Combat Rifle, Assault Combat Rifle, etc.) It would be cool if you had a default weapon and then be able to costumize it. The player can make the Combat Rifle become the Assault Combat rifle with one change only

Well, they need "racial parity" but other than that, I think vehicles are in a good stage right now (except on the price for the Assault dropship).

First I want to say one of the things that you did wrong with DUST, which is letting people from the BETA keep their SPs to the actual game, you should not have done that, instead, you should'ev given a "Tester Double SP" for like a week or something and give those who paid you money their aurum back and the packs back (Mercenary, etc. etc.).
Okay, now with Legion:

1) New player experience:
If you are going to transfer SP (portion of fully) from the players from DUST to Legion then you should give something to new players to be able to catch up. Like a double SP bonus for a whole week. Also, it would be really cool to have a daily "1st Win Double SP" like in the game Robocraft. Basiccly you have double SP on the 1st win of the day (everyday, and this can also be for veterans).

2) Costumization:
Now, we know you talk a lot about being able to fit whatever you want and that's cool, but gamers want more. We like to stand out in the battlefield. So it would be cool if you could actually costumize your player model with camoflages. You could have most of these as AURUM only, but also have some that are earnable like Assignments in Battlefield. This would give something for the players to have a small objective (like a fun pursuit with a cool reward).
You should also have camos for your weapons and even your repair tools (some love for the cool logis too :P) We like to look at our gun and think that it is actually unique (even if it is not), we like to look different). So CCP please add this.

3) New dropsuits:
I feel like this is something required, my idea is having a medium and heavy Anti-Vehicle speacializations. Now these can have bonuses to ammo or something (you decide CCP). With this people could actually have speacialized AV suit to fight thos Tank spammers :). Now, I think it would also be cool to have some AV equiment to add more gear for infantry to fight off vehicles. The heavy specialyzation could have one equiment slot, you could choose to either lock that slot only for Anti-Vehicle equiment or just let players put there whatever they want.

4) Costumization - Weapon Specific:
Now I'm not talking about camos, but instead actual physic costumization (scopes, grips, magazines, barrels, etc.). I personally don't like having different variants (Combat Rifle, Assault Combat Rifle, etc.) It would be cool if you had a default weapon and then be able to costumize it. The player can make the Combat Rifle become the Assault Combat rifle with one change only. Now this would mean that you should not have per example the scope on the standard CR, you should just have the ironsights (such as with every other weapon). This would have a bigger variaty of changes to the weapons. To do this though, you have to make actual mods, all these mods (as I said scopes, grips, barrels and all that) can be based on some real present day mods but with a few tweaks here and there, but you can also create some by yourself.

5) Players and the market:
Kind of like in Planetside 2 it would be cool if players could make some camos to sell on the market for AURUM. Now, these camos should be first sent to CCP and then CCP would choose to integrate them to the maket or not. Like in PS2, the players would recieve a part of the money that other people pay for their camos, not only that but their name should come up on the camouflage description ("Created by...") just to give some more credit to the creators.

6) Racial HUDs:
I have seen here in the forums some really cool ideas and I like one that has different colors for every race. I'm not sure if the HUD would change with every suit or if it should be by the race that you choose at the beginning. Still, a very cool idea in my opinion. In addition though, there were other ideas like the ammo being at the side of your weapon. I too have an idea (not really HUD, but still) which is a sound like a bip bip (like in Defiance) when you shields are low. This would get the player awared of being shot a bit faster than a hit indicator.

7) Weapon Classes:
This is something I forgot to put yesterday, but happily I remembered today. :) So.... Weapon classes. This, CCP is something that at the moment you don't really have. I mean, you have "Heavy Weapons" "Light Weapons" "Secondary Weapons". And, while, sure it makes sense, you at least need more to that. Example: Combat Rifles, atm they are kind of like carbines, great at close range and efficient at medium range. But in my opinion it would be better if it was a class and not a weapon. If it were a class you could have all races represented in here. Like a Caldari or Gallante carbine. Or a Minmatar Sniper Rifle. These shouldn't be weapon's names, they should be WEAPON CLASSES!!! I'd love to have a Caldari Assault Rifle and all that. All other shooters actually have this, it is defenatly something needed for having a greater variety of weapons. I personaly would like to run my empire's weapons a lot more, but to be honest I don't like the Rail Rifle very much, I'd love to have a Caldari carbine of some kind to run with my C scout. :)

Okay, I think that is all (I hope I haven't forgotten anything). I just have to say that although I won't be playing Legion (because I don't have a good PC :c ) I still want to help CCP and help it's games. By the way, I hope that the game is actual Free to Play like DUST and not a month subscription like in EVE. You could have a "Premium" (from Battlefield) like service that would give you camos and per example access to a community test server. This (being Free to Play without month subscription) would let more players into the game and maybe if they wanted to they could buy that service.
Thanks for reading, let me know what you think.

Okay I only read the first part of your post and you were completely wrong. CCP did wipe all players sp when they went from closed beta to open beta. Make sure your fact are right before posting them.

Bro, console kids are a different breed than PC players. Im pretty sure CCP knows what the PC crowd wants. Things you mentioned are console gamer gripes dude.

Okay I only read the first part of your post and you were completely wrong. CCP did wipe all players sp when they went from closed beta to open beta. Make sure your fact are right before posting them.

Hadn't even noticed he said that, good catch.

Us beta people didn't keep our SP, but we did keep the isk equivalent of everything we had, so..... we did have one advantage.

For english not being a first language, I commend you, it was well written

As for the "Getting rid of weapons" I quote:

FroO Bg wrote:

I personally don't like having different variants (Combat Rifle, Assault Combat Rifle, etc.) It would be cool if you had a default weapon and then be able to costumize it. The player can make the Combat Rifle become the Assault Combat rifle with one change only

I was saying, there's no way to do this because how could you have a default weapon and turn it into a CR, AR, RR, PC, MD,etc. just by changing one thing? That'd be the most confusing thing I'd ever experienced

Nevermind, hooked on phonics didn't work for me

Okay, I didn't even said "Closed BETA", I said from the BETA to the actual game - actual game is not OPEN BETA it is the actual launch of the game in May 14th 2013. Now, I played from the launch of Open BETA (the vrey 1st day it launched) and I remember keeping my SP from the Open BETA to the "ACTUAL" game.

Okay i finally took the time to read this thread and it made me laugh so hard i almost p!ssed my pants. You sir are looking to turn dust/legion into another stupid ******* CoD game. In no other fps that i play can you every change the color of your suit with camo patches i.e blunt force pack in CoD:Ghosts.

THIS IS DUST NOT COD OR CRYSIS OF BF4 where you change what your gun does, no one want any of that crap in dust bcause dust is not one of those crappy games. Dut is much bigger and better then any of those games that are just crap to play.
They are games with broken machanics and should never even exist as an fps.

Ok, you have your opinion, I have mine. I'm just trying to help CCP get to a wider audience instead of just being only for a few thousand people (not even 10K). But if you want the game to remain with it's current population then fine.

Okay, I didn't even said "Closed BETA", I said from the BETA to the actual game - actual game is not OPEN BETA it is the actual launch of the game in May 14th 2013. Now, I played from the launch of Open BETA (the vrey 1st day it launched) and I remember keeping my SP from the Open BETA to the "ACTUAL" game.

Okay i finally took the time to read this thread and it made me laugh so hard i almost p!ssed my pants. You sir are looking to turn dust/legion into another stupid ******* CoD game. In no other fps that i play can you every change the color of your suit with camo patches i.e blunt force pack in CoD:Ghosts.

THIS IS DUST NOT COD OR CRYSIS OF BF4 where you change what your gun does, no one want any of that crap in dust bcause dust is not one of those crappy games. Dut is much bigger and better then any of those games that are just crap to play.
They are games with broken machanics and should never even exist as an fps.

I don't want the Call of Doody player ruin the game any more then they already have. If you know anything about dust, after the open beta and we went into uprising, all the Call of Doody players starting playing dust and when the game didn't act like the worst fps ever created and they got the sh!t stomped out of them, they whined and cried and b!tched at ccp on the forums until ccp caved and they started changing thing in the game that didn't need to be changed.

Who do you think is the reason for the endless buff/nerf cycle that has kept dust from getting the content extended? At first we got regular content added to dust but then people could not be happy with the game they are playing and kept on qq about stuff and then ccp had to take time out of create new content just to fix everything else, that wasn't broken to begin with.