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Apothecary Za'ki
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Posted - 2014.08.20 07:25:00 -
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faction war isnt fun and if you sign up as cal or amarr is nearly always a guaranteed loss
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Posted - 2014.08.20 07:35:00 -
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Vulpes Dolosus wrote:Well with that attitude... its not about attitude at all its just fact after spending most of the night on faction war.. it only seems to be weekends when it actually seems to have even a modicum of competent resistance against the main two blocs
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Posted - 2014.08.20 07:37:00 -
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Jadek Menaheim wrote:Your best bet is to find a channel to q-sync with for a given faction. i hope CCPs improved matchmakeing change stops Q-syncing.. btw as far as iv seen qSync is near impossable to do on cal/amarr as tbh too meny WTJers went gal/min so all thats left for Cal/am is newberrys or pubs
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Posted - 2014.08.20 09:25:00 -
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Jonny D Buelle wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:faction war isnt fun and if you sign up as cal or amarr is nearly always a guaranteed loss You are doing it wrong. Well at least at the wrong times. Certain times of the day the Gallente and Matari loyalist are on while the Amarr and Cal loyalist are asleep, at work, or just having a life and vise versa. Also it can be lots of fun even in a losing match, especially if you are a squad thats RPing or part of an RP corp/alliance like PIE. iv done my time in Ishuk raata(i believe) back when they owned some nullsec space years ago.. RPing in eve/dust just dosnt feel right, atleast till WiS comes in to EVE.
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Posted - 2014.08.20 13:58:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Dude, I played Gallente the other night and we got our asses handed to us...twice! twice.. thats maybe 2 wins in 30 mins tops? the rest of the time you guys win ;p so thats what.. 30 mins out of maybe 8 to 12 hours of straight wins for gall?
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Posted - 2014.08.20 14:22:00 -
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Malleus Malificorum wrote:Jonny D Buelle wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:faction war isnt fun and if you sign up as cal or amarr is nearly always a guaranteed loss You are doing it wrong. Well at least at the wrong times. Certain times of the day the Gallente and Matari loyalist are on while the Amarr and Cal loyalist are asleep, at work, or just having a life and vise versa. Also it can be lots of fun even in a losing match, especially if you are a squad thats RPing or part of an RP corp/alliance like PIE. What are you talking about. Pie tends to win matches. Hilariously. There's almost always ob support too. That said, when matches are lost, it is generally blueberries who lose them - either from not being in a squad, not knowing what to do, or not holding (or being able to hold) objectives. If you want to win FW, bring uplinks and don't be afraid to call out a few vehicles. im a logi, i bring more then enough support then 4 people or 2 scouts can (reffering to equipment slots) plenty of people spawn vehicles anyway but i get into the filth waste deep to perform the 5 R's of LogiBro-ness but even i know 1 person cannot carry an entire team to victory when the team equates to something a-kin to wrangling cats with out the aid of milk or fishy treats or chicken......which whenever i seem to have gone amarr or caldari seems to be the case.
usually blue on blue action and/or the opposing force has complete domination, no close matches or anything.. but that being said when i went minmatar for the short time i was doing it we won all games near flawlessly with little challenge(aka boring) for atleast 5 rounds, at which time i bought a bunch of proto FW dropsuits and took a break..
so all in all FW is in a bleak state of affares even if the underdogs manage to get a couple wins in a row its a sparrows tear in a bucket of water in comparason.. match makeing needs updateing so Queue syncing cannot be done.
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Posted - 2014.08.20 14:23:00 -
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RYN0CER0S wrote:Joel II X wrote:When I go solo for Gallente, I mostly end up with berries on my team and lose. However, each time I squad (whether it's queued or not) with the A-Team, Caldari mostly always has the berries. Truth. not true. i pub-scrubed my way in winmatar fw and we had several wins in a row before i got bored and took a break
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Posted - 2014.08.20 14:24:00 -
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Defy Gravity wrote:FW is supposed to be tough.... Blame the dang blueberrys! by blueberrys i mean teammates not caldari..
but fact of the matter is people hate to lose so they always sign up as gal or min for near guarenteed wins
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Posted - 2014.08.20 14:25:00 -
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Paran Tadec wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Jadek Menaheim wrote:Your best bet is to find a channel to q-sync with for a given faction. i hope CCPs improved matchmakeing change stops Q-syncing.. btw as far as iv seen qSync is near impossable to do on cal/amarr as tbh too meny WTJers went gal/min so all thats left for Cal/am is newberrys or pubs Quit crying. FW is one of the few areas that Qsyncing should be encouraged. Its an area for organized play, that doesnt suck like PC. It should even have 16 man team launching because Qsyncing doesnt always work. queue syncing is just an exploit to circumvent matchmaker
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Posted - 2014.08.20 14:28:00 -
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Mejt0 wrote:1. Sad truth. Caldari Fraction have dumbest blueberries. They are just terribad. 2. Qsync on FW is something like PC practise/fun. Dont except to win vs good squad/squads without help of squad/team. 3. People also play for caldari. Not so often like for gal/matar but still they/we are.
4. Have fun. Its not always about wining. #2 needs to be "fixed"
as for #4 loseing constantly or winning with out effort is not FUN in my book
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Posted - 2014.08.20 14:30:00 -
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ResistanceGTA wrote:The Caldari are, in fact, terrible, this is a fact. But most of the bigger corps (ie PC corps) run steady Amarr FW (those LP links and everyone's obsession with Scramblers now), so saying the Amarr are a waste of time is a lie.
I do run almost exclusively Minmatar, but that's what happens when you have pretty much only Minmatar suits (though I've started to dabble back into my Gallente). the FOTM chasters already found ScR still blows even on the uber Amarr assault suits so yeah.. spent a couple hours on my amarr baby-logi alt and nothign but 100% loss with out hostile team even going into armor on their mcc and alot of the time their mcc still had 50% or more shield
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Posted - 2014.08.20 14:35:00 -
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Malleus Malificorum wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:im a logi, i bring more then enough support then 4 people or 2 scouts can (reffering to equipment slots) plenty of people spawn vehicles anyway but i get into the filth waste deep to perform the 5 R's of LogiBro-nessbut even i know 1 person cannot carry an entire team to victory when the team equates to something a-kin to wrangling cats with out the aid of milk or fishy treats or chicken......which whenever i seem to have gone amarr or caldari seems to be the case. usually blue on blue action and/or the opposing force has complete domination, no close matches or anything.. but that being said when i went minmatar for the short time i was doing it we won all games near flawlessly with little challenge(aka boring) for atleast 5 rounds, at which time i bought a bunch of proto FW dropsuits and took a break.. so all in all FW is in a bleak state of affares even if the underdogs manage to get a couple wins in a row its a sparrows tear in a bucket of water in comparason.. match makeing needs updateing so Queue syncing cannot be done. All I'm seeing is QQ. Equipment is one step towards winning a match, but you still need to be willing to do the things that need doing as soon as you notice them, because if you don't no one else will. Rooftop uplinks? Best get up there and kill them. Vehicles? Better have a swarm launcher. No one holding an objective? Switch to a scout suit and lurk (in fact if you want to play solo in FW scouts are a great option and commando's with av secondaries work very well too). As far as queue syncing goes - It isn't the reason you're losing, nor is it the reason the enemy team is winning. A single good squad can win faction warfare quite easily. I've seen plenty of matches where 2 full squads ran into one 4 man squad and got destroyed. And FYI having 4 equipment slots is meaningless - I'd rather have 4 players with basic drop uplinks creating multiple reinforcement routes. Logi's can be a great role and asset to the team, but they function best in squads, a solo logi will almost never impact FW, but a solo scout defending a point (particularly an amarr or gallente scout) is an absolute ****ing terror. i do what i can even playing "sapper" but like i said.. in previous posts Queue syncing just kills FW and on top of that the imbalance of players (more higher sp players in gal/min) leaves just die hards and low sp-ers to pad the numbers aka bend over and take a loss in the A just so the gal and min FWers can rub one out and feel good about how they won with out even loseing 25% of their shields or what ever
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Posted - 2014.08.20 14:43:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote:Mejt0 wrote:1. Sad truth. Caldari Fraction have dumbest blueberries. They are just terribad. 2. Qsync on FW is something like PC practise/fun. Dont except to win vs good squad/squads without help of squad/team. 3. People also play for caldari. Not so often like for gal/matar but still they/we are.
4. Have fun. Its not always about wining. #2 needs to be "fixed" as for #4 loseing constantly or winning with out effort is not FUN in my book FW is basically PC light. Why do you think FF is turned on? Why do you think there are better rewards? You want the good stuff? Be willing to risk for it. Put some good gear and ISK on the line. i do.. L4 logi gear and proto LP suit is best i can atm but despite this it always seems; at least when ever i decide to do FW, that cal and amarr always lose and by a big margin.. iv yet to experance one of these fabled "WINs" for cal or amarr.. as for amarr and cal i run them on my just barely advanced gear baby logis with L3 gear tho i have tried with my main logi too and still no difference in the result.
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Posted - 2014.08.20 14:50:00 -
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Malleus Malificorum wrote:Queue syncing doesn't affect anything. You play solo and expect to have an impact and you are wrong to expect that because a single squad has far more impact than 10 solo players (unless they're all people like Mr Mustard). Any one squad of decent players with a good sense of how a battle flows will beat the snot out of 2 synced squads, unless they're synced squads of badasses, which you could still easily end up with even without queue syncing.
The problem isn't with queue syncing. It's with your idea that you can accomplish things going it solo. Solo logi's are worthless - Having four equipment slots isn't anything amazing because you can't be in four places on the map placing uplinks at once. If you want to win, you *need* to interact with other people who also want to win FW. If you want to be a pubstar logi, stick to ambush where you can earn 2billion points from 2 uplinks.
You want to complain about blueberries? You *are* one. your thinking im running liek a solo slayer logi of old.. and i dont always solo thats when im on my baby alts that i sometimes solo cause they got less to lose
and i highly doubt meny single squads will beat Q-syncers
and i hate ambush.. and fyi noobcakes uplinks in ambush can cause more deaths/losses cause smart deploy dosnt take into account hostiles camping uplinks, i prefer hives reps and rezzes, keeping my peeps alive is more important then letting them die just to come back and die again..
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Posted - 2014.08.20 15:02:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:I actually got a winning streak with Caldari during the day rather than late at night when I would usually play.
It's more about interest in the game mode that is the issue. I'm guessing that if there was caldari scout dropsuits and the racial sentinels in the faction store more people would actually play.
Heck, Amarr has FOUR different dropsuits in their store...I don't see why it wouldn't be more popular. It also has a much more dedicated channel than minmatar. as much as id like to agree with you shayz this FW thing stems from the EVE-O meta of gallente and minmatar winnning / being dominant in FW there too..
as for amar having the dropsuits.. yes i did wonder that but still nothing but losses when i have been there on my amarr alt..or caldari fw losses when on caldari alt.. and with how seeming OP amarr assault is atm i would have thought the FOTM chasers would have already been grinding amarr like a horny jack Russel humps legs.
as for the caldari win streak.. thats still a drop in the ocean.. like one guy said gallente got beaten a whole 2 times Woooo.. thats nothing when gall win pretty much constantly save the rare times they drop the ball of which i believe is probably aorund the time you must have been running cal-fw shayz
i guess im frustrated at the fact being curb stomped or being on the team handing out the curb stomp just dosnt feel fun in the slightest, i do have more fun in normal matchmakeing because i have had some great games which have been really down to the wire.. as for FW i do like there being friendly fire as it adds a whole other level of difficulty while i can appreciate.
even if ccp was to populate all the factions LP stores with all the items it still wouldnt make much differance i bet as EVE meta knocks on into Dust meta so it would still be gal and min shrugging off cal and amarrs once in a blue moon victory(s)
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Posted - 2014.08.20 15:08:00 -
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Thumb Green wrote:If it makes you feel better the Gallente were getting their dicks kicked in for a couple of hours yesterday. tbh it dosnt.. i would prefer a good hard fight where it actually feels like every CRU hacked.. every uplink popped.. every person repped up to full.. placing down ammo in good locations (not around the supply silo).. throwing out scans.. rezzing people.. where every little bit makes it feel like your helping to WIN.. and not just being a Fluffer for Egos, which sadly is the case like 90% of the time if not more.
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Posted - 2014.08.20 15:20:00 -
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zzZaXxx wrote:OP you should never go into FW without a full squad. Preferably queu sync two. queue-syncing, i view it as an exploit as its a way to circumvent the matchmakeing system.
as for joining squads i do "hot-drop" into squads with free room but if its on cal/amarr side it always seems to be a complete pushed back to the MCC type fight.. or even worse we dont even get to cap a single thing.. that is why cal and amarr fw hardly have any good players.. its cause they all join min/gal cause they too are sick of being steamrolled.
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Posted - 2014.08.20 15:26:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Apothecary Za'ki wrote: queue-syncing, i view it as an exploit as its a way to circumvent the matchmakeing system.
'Matchmaking system'. There isn't one. i seem to recall ccp mentioning they were working on the queue syncing "issue" tho fo them that could mean months while were only receiving hotfixes
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