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pagl1u M
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.08.17 10:10:00 -
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Hey everyone! Before I start to explain my idea, my suggestion I'd like to say a couple of thing that I'd like you to remember while you read the thread:
- These are just ideas, there are no numbers yet. If I see that you guys agree with me I'll start thinking about numbers (and I guess a lot of you will give your numbers too.
- Don't get mad! Even if you disagree (and I'm sure a lot will disagree) please keep your comments constructive and try to explain what you disagree with.
- I'm italian, english isn't my first language, I'll try to be as clear as possible but forgive me for my mistakes.
Now, why am I writing this? What would I like to Fix?
PROBLEMS:
- FOTM chaser
- Our decisions dont have real consequences
My solution is:
Put a CAP in the number of SP we can have/use.
It means a limited number of SP we could use in our skill tree, that would bring to a limited number of skills we could train.
Why? Because as it is now FOTM chaser only have to save some sp waiting for the next OP thing to be released/buffed. This is possible also because they already have their core skills maxed. Another problem is that our decisions don't have consequences at all, if I waste a million of SP I just have to wait a couple of weeks and completely forget about those wasted SP.
In my opinion we should have, for example, enough SP to max 2 dropsuits, 2 weapons and 2 Secondary weapons, a couple of equipments, all the core skills and some modules. Obviously anyone can choose to have only one dropsuits (for example) and more weapons... Or other combinations...
This solution would solve both the problems I said above.
FOTM chaser wouldnt be able to save SP for the next OP thing, they'd better choose what they like or they may find themselves with a thing that isn't OP anymore and that they don't like.
Our decisions would have real consequences , if I decide to skill something I'm using a part of my SP, and SP are a limited number. We would have to choose really carefully what we want to be, how we want to play.
What are the main problems with this solution?
- Nerf Hammer that can nerf to the ground the only things you have.
- CCP wouldnt earn Money from boosters (does someone still buy them?
My solution:
CCP should give a free Respec (once for account) and the possibility to buy a Respec with Aurum (once a year)
Best solutione for the second problem is also to sell skins and the possibility to modify our dropsuits (color and stuff) but they dont want to........
A couple of ideas I want to add.
If you train dropsuits of the same Race it should cost you less SP.
If you skill weapons of your Race (your dropsuits) it should cost you less SP.
The Level 5 of a skill should cost more than lvl 1 (as it is now) so you have to choose if you want to specialize or you want to have a lot of skills at low level.
Ok guys, this is the idea. I hope it is clear enough, if it isnt I'll try to explain it with some number. Let me know what you think.
Minmatar loyalist!
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
2696
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Posted - 2014.08.17 10:21:00 -
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Most of the community have multiple roles, there is no more FOTM chasing imo, as at every new hotfix suits are changing and i see a good variety now.
I have 3 pro suit, i want a 4 to fill almost all the roles on the battlefield, i don't think limit SP is a good idea, people will only generate more alts to try all the roles.
My final vote is: no, i like it as it's now, i like to be a always evolving omni soldier.
PSN: ogamega
"Dust is full of communists who despise people with enough isk to buy expensive items"
Uncesored FUCK
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pagl1u M
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
947
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Posted - 2014.08.17 11:18:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:Most of the community have multiple roles, there is no more FOTM chasing imo, as at every new hotfix suits are changing and i see a good variety now.
I have 3 pro suit, i want a 4 to fill almost all the roles on the battlefield, i don't think limit SP is a good idea, people will only generate more alts to try all the roles.
My final vote is: no, i like it as it's now, i like to be a always evolving omni soldier.
That is exactly one of the wrong things, I know players that can play as infantry, on a hav or on dropships, with the same character! Where are the consequences of our choices? What do I have to choose if I can be everything? We should be pushed to choose a role. (or two... But not every role.)
We havent seen the fotm but I can guess we will see it. After 1.8 a lot of people said there wasnt a fotm and we know what happened later. Even if CCP will be able to balance the game my solution, I think, will still be the best choice because of "decisions have consequences". I skilled plasma Cannon proficiency at 5...I never use it but I cant see any consequence. The only decision that has consequences, right now, is biomassing your character.
Tl dr: you shouldnt be able to Fill every role, you should choose one or two.
Minmatar loyalist!
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
2696
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Posted - 2014.08.17 11:21:00 -
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With limited SP the game would be boring as hell.
Nuff said.
PSN: ogamega
"Dust is full of communists who despise people with enough isk to buy expensive items"
Uncesored FUCK
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
3054
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Posted - 2014.08.17 11:25:00 -
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As a single character person I get shafted while those that have 10+ alts keep going just fine.
No thanks.
I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special.
Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
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pagl1u M
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
947
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Posted - 2014.08.17 15:32:00 -
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Spademan wrote:As a single character person I get shafted while those that have 10+ alts keep going just fine.
No thanks.
First of all it is forbidden to have alts... Just saying.
Anyway I know that there are a lot of players with alts.
Your efficacy on the battlefield would be the same of everyone else, you can have 0 or 15 alts but on the battlefield you can only use things you have on that account.
Come on guys, I love to have 40 kk SP as much as you Like it but it is not Fair that in the same match someone can choose between 4 different suits, 5 different weapons, 2 different tanks, or to use a dropship... All in the same match with the same character. We should have to choose our role.
Minmatar loyalist!
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iKILLu osborne
Dead Man's Game
180
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Posted - 2014.08.17 23:35:00 -
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do i dare speak my opinion???
I do first your effectively limiting the versatility of the game, for example if I was to spec all things towards assault/sentinel and there was this sniper that kept pinging me how would i go about killing him?? don't have a sniper fit.
if i used my 1yr respec,that means i would be stuck with same fit for an entire year(or until legion.)
removes all incentive to continue playing when getting stomped "i'm gettin no sp might as well find an easier match"
there are two types of players those who are naturally skilled and then those who rely on sp/fits to have skill, where would it leave the scrubs?
ccp would effectively make no money unless they sold isk/respec packs, which majority of players have learned from there past sp mistakes and wouldn't make the same mistake twice.
and of course the fact this game is still being balanced, would most likely result in nerf hammers.
new players how/where would they fit in? A:nowhere
"uh guys" "i got to go back to the depot that installation made me crap my dropsuit"
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pagl1u M
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
949
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Posted - 2014.08.18 15:01:00 -
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iKILLu osborne wrote:do i dare speak my opinion???
I do first your effectively limiting the versatility of the game, for example if I was to spec all things towards assault/sentinel and there was this sniper that kept pinging me how would i go about killing him?? don't have a sniper fit. Sniper are a problem because of Redline. If it wansnt for Redline you could keep your lav/dropship (not skilled, the Basic one) reach that Sniper and destroy him with your hmg. Or you can have a Sniper in your team to do that Job.
Anyway, I'm not limiting the versatility of the game, I m trying to Limit your own versatility, in my opinion you shouldnt be able to be a tanker, a Pilot, an heavy, a Sniper, a logi and a scout in the same match!
iKILLu osborne wrote:if i used my 1yr respec,that means i would be stuck with same fit for an entire year(or until legion.)
Yes, you are stuck with what you chose, decisions and consequences...
iKILLu osborne wrote:removes all incentive to continue playing when getting stomped "i'm gettin no sp might as well find an easier match"
If players only play to grind it is another problem, anyway I don't think players would do that. They can do it now as well. They enter a match, see 6 protostomper and leave.
iKILLu osborne wrote:there are two types of players those who are naturally skilled and then those who rely on sp/fits to have skill, where would it leave the scrubs?
I think it is right that a player with more personal skill has an advantage against another with no personal skill.. What is wrong with it?
Minmatar loyalist!
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pagl1u M
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
949
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Posted - 2014.08.18 15:02:00 -
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iKILLu osborne wrote:ccp would effectively make no money unless they sold isk/respec packs, which majority of players have learned from there past sp mistakes and wouldn't make the same mistake twice.
Customization would be the best solution. But there will be always players that want to buy a Respec!
iKILLu osborne wrote:and of course the fact this game is still being balanced, would most likely result in nerf hammers.
We are seeing hotfix now, no nerf hammers. I think that if CCP Goes on this Way it won't be a problem.
iKILLu osborne wrote:new players how/where would they fit in? A:nowhere
They would be in a better place. They wont fight players with 50kk sp but players with (for example) 25kk. They ll be in a better place at start and they will be able to reach competitive Games faster.
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
4039
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Posted - 2014.08.18 17:57:00 -
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This is probably the stupidest thing I've heard in my life.....
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
LASERS BTCH!!!!!!
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shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
2702
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Posted - 2014.08.18 18:21:00 -
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pagl1u M wrote:
Come on guys, I love to have 40 kk SP as much as you Like it but it is not Fair that in the same match someone can choose between 4 different suits, 5 different weapons, 2 different tanks, or to use a dropship... All in the same match with the same character. We should have to choose our role.
Pagliu ripigliati +¿ uno sparatutto non neverwinter nights.
PSN: ogamega
"Dust is full of communists who despise people with enough isk to buy expensive items"
LOCK REGIONS
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pagl1u M
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
949
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Posted - 2014.08.18 18:25:00 -
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shaman oga wrote:pagl1u M wrote:
Come on guys, I love to have 40 kk SP as much as you Like it but it is not Fair that in the same match someone can choose between 4 different suits, 5 different weapons, 2 different tanks, or to use a dropship... All in the same match with the same character. We should have to choose our role.
Pagliu ripigliati +¿ uno sparatutto non neverwinter nights.
Shaman se avessi voluto giocare a uno sparatutto avrei preso battlefield risparmiandomi mille problemi, Dust NON +¿ uno sparatutto.
Nocturnal Soul wrote:This is probably the stupidest thing I've heard in my life.....
Thank you for your arguments! You clearly explain your point of view in a moderate, constructive and mature way.
This idea is so stupid that every game ever has a limited number of SP and make you choose a role... Except Dust that let veterans be everything and destroy poor newbs...
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