First off what is Lag? Basically, latency. It's basically the time delay between a cause (which may be you pressing the R1 button) and the effect (Kill)

not to be confused with latency (the time it takes to send a packet to and recieve a response packet from a server along a network), lag is impaired computer functionality (slow application responses or reduced/choppy framerates)

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=lag

Not to be a smartass or anything

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That said, what do you think could be done? are people with high latency to certain battle server doomed? Please Discuss.

First off what is Lag? Basically, latency. It's basically the time delay between a cause (which may be you pressing the R1 button) and the effect (Kill) .

That said, if anybody of you thinks at lag as, for example, framerate drops, you're totally wrong. That's another kind of issue.

The most famous expression of what lag is: "the guy didn't take any damage" "I was sure I hit him" etc. This happens because you, the player and the server see everything in a very different way, depending on latency: the more you're close to the server, the more your vision of the game will be the same as the one the server has.

Now, let's do a practical example:

This Image shows what happen exactly: The blue/red hitbox is what you actually see on your screen, the soldier running is where the guy is according to the server. Now, if you shoot at the hitbox (where the enemy actually is according to you) you are not hitting the enemy according to the server, hence, no damage. Those people who strafe faster than you are not lagging at all: they're actually communicating with the server faster than you, and, through lag compensation, your system will "speed them up" in order to "catch" the server.

Strafe: if you strafe and the enemy don't hit you, you're not some kind of demi-God.

Here's what happen instead: if your enemy communicates faster than you with the server, he will be (both for him and for the server) on the right side of the screen, while you will see another story: he still didn't move, according to you, because you just can't communicate that fast. That's probably why scouts hit detection looks bugged according to someone.

Now let's consider Dust, specifically:

for what I've seen, Dust always try to bring coherence for everyone on the battlefield, but that's not always good: in high latency situations (PC, FW) you may have a lower sprint speed, feel your character turning speed slower, you may experience a good amount of latency, for example using a forge, between you releasing your R1 button and the bullet actually leaving your forge gun. And the bad news is, that's normal! Your input (R1 release) have been sent with a certain amount af delay! it also results in a mostly unplayable experience for those who have high latency (100 + ms) because of...hit detection. Of course, this issue applies to all weapons, not only the forge gun.

That said, what do you think could be done? are people with high latency to certain battle server doomed? Please Discuss.


Edit:

This Video and a ton of other videos of killcams in Cod, show you how bad it could be.

Crazy that this is very true but it is also the game itself. When I came back from destiny beta, there was a night/day difference between pvp action compared to DUST, same when DUST compared to bf4, and cod. it's just that these companies took better time to create that compensating balance in the server than Dust. Granted there were times when that "lag" problem would show up in destiny as well, but all it takes is some TLC from CCP Devs to work on this really, really, REALLY bad server, especially when the peak active player base throughout the week is just under 2500 players.

First off what is Lag? Basically, latency. It's basically the time delay between a cause (which may be you pressing the R1 button) and the effect (Kill) .

That said, if anybody of you thinks at lag as, for example, framerate drops, you're totally wrong. That's another kind of issue.

The most famous expression of what lag is: "the guy didn't take any damage" "I was sure I hit him" etc. This happens because you, the player and the server see everything in a very different way, depending on latency: the more you're close to the server, the more your vision of the game will be the same as the one the server has.

Now, let's do a practical example:

This Image shows what happen exactly: The blue/red hitbox is what you actually see on your screen, the soldier running is where the guy is according to the server. Now, if you shoot at the hitbox (where the enemy actually is according to you) you are not hitting the enemy according to the server, hence, no damage. Those people who strafe faster than you are not lagging at all: they're actually communicating with the server faster than you, and, through lag compensation, your system will "speed them up" in order to "catch" the server.

Strafe: if you strafe and the enemy don't hit you, you're not some kind of demi-God.

Here's what happen instead: if your enemy communicates faster than you with the server, he will be (both for him and for the server) on the right side of the screen, while you will see another story: he still didn't move, according to you, because you just can't communicate that fast. That's probably why scouts hit detection looks bugged according to someone.

Now let's consider Dust, specifically:

for what I've seen, Dust always try to bring coherence for everyone on the battlefield, but that's not always good: in high latency situations (PC, FW) you may have a lower sprint speed, feel your character turning speed slower, you may experience a good amount of latency, for example using a forge, between you releasing your R1 button and the bullet actually leaving your forge gun. And the bad news is, that's normal! Your input (R1 release) have been sent with a certain amount af delay! it also results in a mostly unplayable experience for those who have high latency (100 + ms) because of...hit detection. Of course, this issue applies to all weapons, not only the forge gun.

That said, what do you think could be done? are people with high latency to certain battle server doomed? Please Discuss.


Edit:

This Video and a ton of other videos of killcams in Cod, show you how bad it could be.

Invent Helium 4 Quantum Fluid Routes and issue them out to all Eve and Dust 514 players.

WTF. Isn't this the type of discussion you should be contributing constructively to, in you position as CPM1?

WTF. Isn't this the type of discussion you should be contributing constructively to, in you position as CPM1?

Despite my jest; such invention would end LAG.

You could be playing dust on pluto with this device and experience a blistering 26 ms ping.

Invent Helium 4 Quantum Fluid Routes and issue them out to all Eve and Dust 514 players.

Lag has always been here.. but man, I feel like it got worse with Charlie.