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Syeven Reed
Sebiestor Field Sappers
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Posted - 2014.08.16 08:20:00 -
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I actually posted this in the bug thread because protofits was saying it was working, but it doesn't. Seeing as how its a bug with nothing to do with DUST but a really decent build that is so so close to working, id like to request a change.
This fitting on a standard suit http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/480/6682 needs 57.27PWG, the max you can get with full firing skills is 56PWG, needing an extra 1.27 (so close!)
I understand that fitting costs are put there to stop suits being to OP, however I'm suggesting that if you add a fitting bonus to nova-knives all it does is help the suit fit into the role its being designed for.
-10%PWG fitting cost to nova-knives per level of the minmatar scout.
A proto knife (i think) has 7PWG meaning at max skills you save 3.5. That isn't enough to fit anything else OP, all it does is help me knife people better.
Also with the build I gave you I still wouldn't be able to fit a proto knife, but I could but a standard one on. Seeing as how I'm using a basic CR I think thats a good compromise.
I hope someone actually reads this....
Reed.
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Posted - 2014.08.16 10:58:00 -
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Eh, I love the knives but I don't think a fitting bonus is what they need. Minnie scouts either need a slight buff to total PG, or the kincats need a slight decrease in PG usage. They're kind of ridiculous right now.
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Killer's Coys
Prima Gallicus
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Posted - 2014.08.16 11:30:00 -
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Hum...
I've seen your fit
All your mods are complex
But your fit is an advanced
That's why you can't fit everything you want
And you speak about a PG reduction for nova knives, if you need PG, skill in that.
And if you don't agree with me......
10% ?
Ok, NK is made for Minja, but that's not a reason the NK not to cost any PG...
A maximum bonus would be 5%, but not 10
But for me, that's not necessary, with Hotfix Charlie a PG cost reduction bonus has been given to us, skill it, and you'll be able to put all you want
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SponkSponkSponk
The Southern Legion
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Posted - 2014.08.16 11:41:00 -
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Syeven Reed wrote:This fitting on a standard suit http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/480/6682 needs 57.27PWG, the max you can get with full firing skills is 56PWG, needing an extra 1.27 (so close!) I understand that fitting costs are put there to stop suits being to OP, however I'm suggesting that if you add a fitting bonus to nova-knives all it does is help the suit fit into the role its being designed for.
Drop a complex extender to an enhanced; you'll have heaps of PG.
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Syeven Reed
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Posted - 2014.08.16 12:37:00 -
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Killer's Coys wrote:Hum...
I've seen your fit
All your mods are complex
But your fit is an advanced
That's why you can't fit everything you want
And you speak about a PG reduction for nova knives, if you need PG, skill in that.
And if you don't agree with me......
10% ?
Ok, NK is made for Minja, but that's not a reason the NK not to cost any PG...
A maximum bonus would be 5%, but not 10
But for me, that's not necessary, with Hotfix Charlie a PG cost reduction bonus has been given to us, skill it, and you'll be able to put all you want
Modules are complex yeah, but the weapon is standard. I'm giving up a huge amount of dps to fit the tank..
What Hotfix Charlie PG cost reduction? All my fitting skills are at max.
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Killer's Coys
Prima Gallicus
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Posted - 2014.08.16 12:41:00 -
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Syeven Reed wrote:Killer's Coys wrote:Hum...
I've seen your fit
All your mods are complex
But your fit is an advanced
That's why you can't fit everything you want
And you speak about a PG reduction for nova knives, if you need PG, skill in that.
And if you don't agree with me......
10% ?
Ok, NK is made for Minja, but that's not a reason the NK not to cost any PG...
A maximum bonus would be 5%, but not 10
But for me, that's not necessary, with Hotfix Charlie a PG cost reduction bonus has been given to us, skill it, and you'll be able to put all you want Modules are complex yeah, but the weapon is standard. I'm giving up a huge amount of dps to fit the tank.. What Hotfix Charlie PG cost reduction? All my fitting skills are at max.
I don't know the name in English... NK optimization ?
The thing to reduce the PG cost of NK
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Extraneus Tenebrarum
CaUsE-4-CoNcErN
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Posted - 2014.08.16 14:53:00 -
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Killer's Coys wrote:Syeven Reed wrote:Killer's Coys wrote:Hum...
I've seen your fit
All your mods are complex
But your fit is an advanced
That's why you can't fit everything you want
And you speak about a PG reduction for nova knives, if you need PG, skill in that.
And if you don't agree with me......
10% ?
Ok, NK is made for Minja, but that's not a reason the NK not to cost any PG...
A maximum bonus would be 5%, but not 10
But for me, that's not necessary, with Hotfix Charlie a PG cost reduction bonus has been given to us, skill it, and you'll be able to put all you want Modules are complex yeah, but the weapon is standard. I'm giving up a huge amount of dps to fit the tank.. What Hotfix Charlie PG cost reduction? All my fitting skills are at max. I don't know the name in English... NK optimization ? The thing to reduce the PG cost of NK
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Syeven Reed
Sebiestor Field Sappers
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Posted - 2014.08.16 16:47:00 -
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SponkSponkSponk wrote:Syeven Reed wrote:This fitting on a standard suit http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/480/6682 needs 57.27PWG, the max you can get with full firing skills is 56PWG, needing an extra 1.27 (so close!) I understand that fitting costs are put there to stop suits being to OP, however I'm suggesting that if you add a fitting bonus to nova-knives all it does is help the suit fit into the role its being designed for. Drop a complex extender to an enhanced; you'll have heaps of PG.
I really don't want to drop more tank, I'm quite soft as it is...
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
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Posted - 2014.08.16 19:58:00 -
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Syeven Reed wrote:SponkSponkSponk wrote:Syeven Reed wrote:This fitting on a standard suit http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/480/6682 needs 57.27PWG, the max you can get with full firing skills is 56PWG, needing an extra 1.27 (so close!) I understand that fitting costs are put there to stop suits being to OP, however I'm suggesting that if you add a fitting bonus to nova-knives all it does is help the suit fit into the role its being designed for. Drop a complex extender to an enhanced; you'll have heaps of PG. I really don't want to drop more tank, I'm quite soft as it is...
That is only 16 HP (50 @ Enhanced, 66 @ Complex if I am not mistaken).
I think you are making too much sacrifice for that 15 hp.
Given the increased DPS you could get with an ADV weapon over standard, or other fitting possibilities, I think your surviveability would actually increase if you put your resources elsewhere.
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Bormir1r
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.08.16 20:38:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Syeven Reed wrote:SponkSponkSponk wrote:Syeven Reed wrote:This fitting on a standard suit http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/480/6682 needs 57.27PWG, the max you can get with full firing skills is 56PWG, needing an extra 1.27 (so close!) I understand that fitting costs are put there to stop suits being to OP, however I'm suggesting that if you add a fitting bonus to nova-knives all it does is help the suit fit into the role its being designed for. Drop a complex extender to an enhanced; you'll have heaps of PG. I really don't want to drop more tank, I'm quite soft as it is... That is only 16 HP (50 @ Enhanced, 66 @ Complex if I am not mistaken). I think you are making too much sacrifice for that 15 hp. Given the increased DPS you could get with an ADV weapon over standard, or other fitting possibilities, I think your surviveability would actually increase if you put your resources elsewhere.
Enhanced Shield Extenders are definitely worth it now; Back before the shield changes, Complex shields were the most efficient pg-wise, now enhanced and basic are.
Honestly NK are fine where they are now. Kin cats should have less pg, but everything seems to be balanced right now.
(Except for all other sidearms, but that's for Delta.)
Sometimes, when I close my eyes, I can't see anything.
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Syeven Reed
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Posted - 2014.08.16 20:54:00 -
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One Eyed King wrote:Syeven Reed wrote:SponkSponkSponk wrote:Syeven Reed wrote:This fitting on a standard suit http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/480/6682 needs 57.27PWG, the max you can get with full firing skills is 56PWG, needing an extra 1.27 (so close!) I understand that fitting costs are put there to stop suits being to OP, however I'm suggesting that if you add a fitting bonus to nova-knives all it does is help the suit fit into the role its being designed for. Drop a complex extender to an enhanced; you'll have heaps of PG. I really don't want to drop more tank, I'm quite soft as it is... That is only 16 HP (50 @ Enhanced, 66 @ Complex if I am not mistaken). I think you are making too much sacrifice for that 15 hp. Given the increased DPS you could get with an ADV weapon over standard, or other fitting possibilities, I think your survivability would actually increase if you put your resources elsewhere.
Ah man! Im still thinking that advanced extenders only give you 33HP, thats the old value or something right? Anyway I was way off and now i can fit my BK-42! (EDIT: And better remotes)http://www.protofits.com/fittings/shared/480/6759
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Posted - 2014.08.16 21:44:00 -
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Killer's Coys wrote:Syeven Reed wrote:Killer's Coys wrote:Hum...
I've seen your fit
All your mods are complex
But your fit is an advanced
That's why you can't fit everything you want
And you speak about a PG reduction for nova knives, if you need PG, skill in that.
And if you don't agree with me......
10% ?
Ok, NK is made for Minja, but that's not a reason the NK not to cost any PG...
A maximum bonus would be 5%, but not 10
But for me, that's not necessary, with Hotfix Charlie a PG cost reduction bonus has been given to us, skill it, and you'll be able to put all you want Modules are complex yeah, but the weapon is standard. I'm giving up a huge amount of dps to fit the tank.. What Hotfix Charlie PG cost reduction? All my fitting skills are at max. I don't know the name in English... NK optimization ? The thing to reduce the PG cost of NK
PG requirements for NK, KinCats and Codebreakers were all dropped by a point.
NK Fitting Optimization did not make it into Charlie.
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