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The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
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Posted - 2014.08.13 03:37:00 -
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Complex shield extenders (66HP) should grant a bigger HP boost then basic armor plates (85HP). I would like to see that the complex shield extenders give 90HP shields. That would justify the higher PG+CPU for the module.
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BL4CKST4R
LATINOS KILLERS CORP Dark Taboo
2902
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Posted - 2014.08.13 03:49:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:Complex shield extenders (66HP) should grant a bigger HP boost then basic armor plates (85HP). I would like to see that the complex shield extenders give 90HP shields. That would justify the higher PG+CPU for the module.
And a reduction to your shield repair rates so that a basic shield recharger doesn't surpass a complex armor repairer. Hey don't look at me this is your logic
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Zindorak
1.U.P
603
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Posted - 2014.08.13 03:50:00 -
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BL4CKST4R wrote:The dark cloud wrote:Complex shield extenders (66HP) should grant a bigger HP boost then basic armor plates (85HP). I would like to see that the complex shield extenders give 90HP shields. That would justify the higher PG+CPU for the module. And a reduction to your shield repair rates so that a basic shield recharger doesn't surpass a complex armor repairer. Hey don't look at me this is your logic trolololololo
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Jack 3enimble
Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.08.13 03:54:00 -
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As a full Caldari player I find this rediculous. There may be a slight increase on HP for the complex extenders but this is way too much |
Ace Starburst
is well hung
111
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Posted - 2014.08.13 04:06:00 -
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I'm good with 66 HP from complex shield extenders. More options for shield tanking, particularly for sentinels, would be nice though.
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ZDub 303
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.08.13 04:20:00 -
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Shield tanking early on was great before they fixed how Shield Recharge Delay was calculated (on last hit vs. on first hit). While the fix was good in terms of bug squashing it fundamentally changed shield tanking by causing a drastic increase in real shield recharge delay. This 'fix' should probably be balanced out. Honestly... I think all shield tanking needs is a slight reduction to recharge delay. We could probably get rid of shield depleted delay since that value isn't actually used anywhere except when you're hit by a flux grenade and then not damaged for x seconds.
A reduction of base shield recharge delay on caldari and minmatar suits by about 20% or so could be a pretty solid first step in balancing shields vs armor.
If we really want to talk about increasing the hp granted by shield extenders, I think it should roll more into a racial bonus, as discussed many times already. Giving Caldari a +hp on extenders and minmatar a bonus to rechargers/energizers would reinforce their racial tanking styles without further encouraging dual tanking.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.08.13 04:32:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:Shield tanking early on was great before they fixed how Shield Recharge Delay was calculated (on last hit vs. on first hit). While the fix was good in terms of bug squashing it fundamentally changed shield tanking by causing a drastic increase in real shield recharge delay. This 'fix' should probably be balanced out. Honestly... I think all shield tanking needs is a slight reduction to recharge delay. We could probably get rid of shield depleted delay since that value isn't actually used anywhere except when you're hit by a flux grenade and then not damaged for x seconds.
A reduction of base shield recharge delay on caldari and minmatar suits by about 20% or so could be a pretty solid first step in balancing shields vs armor.
If we really want to talk about increasing the hp granted by shield extenders, I think it should roll more into a racial bonus, as discussed many times already. Giving Caldari a +hp on extenders and minmatar a bonus to rechargers/energizers would reinforce their racial tanking styles without further encouraging dual tanking.
These values should be evident in the suit racial profiles...... unfortunately they are not......
"We were commanded us to burn the system...We did. I mourn the loss of the innocent caught in our fires" -Kador Ouryon
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Alena Ventrallis
S0VER31GN
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Posted - 2014.08.13 04:38:00 -
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Increased, yes. Beyond basic plates, no.
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Symbioticforks
Pure Evil.
431
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Posted - 2014.08.13 05:08:00 -
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lower armor plate hp, problem solved.
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
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Posted - 2014.08.13 05:11:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:Complex shield extenders (66HP) should grant a bigger HP boost then basic armor plates (85HP). I would like to see that the complex shield extenders give 90HP shields. That would justify the higher PG+CPU for the module. i think the shield extenders need to be like 33->66->99 std/adv/pro or perhaps 50-75-100 or even 40-80-120 because shield tanking is seriously under powered and even more vulnerable then a boy alone with a priest..
flux nades 1200 shield damage for BASIC versions.. that effectivly wipes out our tank in the blink of an eye.. ScR is 800dps raw and like 1000 effective vs shields. scrambler pistol is fairly powerful too laser rifle is the hard counter to rail rifles at range..
so i see no harm in buffing shield extender numbers.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.08.13 05:44:00 -
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*enters thread*
*sees a bunch of shield users wanting to be brawlers*
*laughs at ignorance*
* laughs louder at the 99 hp shield idea*
*leaves thread*
see you space cowboy...
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
1991
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Posted - 2014.08.13 10:14:00 -
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Fit energizers/rechargers and regulators. Do not skip either. Use skirmish tactics and avoid brawls AT ALL COSTS.
Avoiving situations where you have to fight an armor suit on their terms means you win.
When you brawl they win.
This is a feature, not a bug. Tactics, not armor are OP.
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Echo 1991
WarRavens Final Resolution.
411
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Posted - 2014.08.13 11:50:00 -
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How many times do people have to be told that shields cannot have more HP than armour as armour does not repair HP on its own. Shields recharge on their own so can't give an equivalent amount of HP. |
Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2014.08.13 12:17:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:Complex shield extenders (66HP) should grant a bigger HP boost then basic armor plates (85HP). I would like to see that the complex shield extenders give 90HP shields. That would justify the higher PG+CPU for the module.
Shield tanking has the advantage of not reducing your walk/sprint speeds as well as repair that doesn't involve an additional module. You are half right though; shield extenders need to provide more HP.
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