DUST Search - To anyone hoping for a Legion PS4 port

Rowdy Railgunner wrote:

Fizzer XCIV wrote:

Freccia di Lybra wrote:

Fizzer XCIV wrote:

Actually, with the almost nonexistent deadspots and encreased fidelity of the DS4, along with slight (slight!) aim assist, I'd imagine the DS4 would be just as good, if not superior, to M/KB.

I don't know, I can't tell you any personal experience because I don't have a PS4 yet.

But between an aim-assisted Dust 514 and planetside 2 on PC, it's much much easier for me to stay on target on PC...and I'm absolutely not to be considered a PC-gamer!

Believe me, the DS4 is a thing of beauty.

I'm not even sure if it has deadspots.
Its comfy as all get out.
Triggers are smoooooth. Squeaky at first, but they get quiet as a worm fart after breaking them in.
The sticks have FAR more directional control, and a much more comfortable gradient of speeds.

Overall, I'd say the DS4 is the single best controller ever released with a console. With a miniscule amount of aim assist, I'd say that it could be competitive with MKB on PC.

The offset thumbsticks of the Xbox are still greater than the DS4. DS4 was so close to offset thumbsticks too and they decided against it at the end because of brand separation between xbox and playstation. Unfortunate, because the DS4 does feel like a better built controller than the XB1 controller. XB1 controller just feels.... cheap.

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Freccia di Lybra Maphia Clan Corporation 235	Posted - 2014.08.12 02:57:00 - [1] - Quote How would you fix the cross platform multiplayer? Those two, are way too different platforms, and without any kind of aim assist, mouse is much more precise than ds3. Just one of the insane amount of balance issues that will come up. How would you fix them all? TL;DR If Legion is being developed for PC, there's no way it can be ported on PS4. Ei fu, xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
Fizzer XCIV Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 53	Posted - 2014.08.12 02:59:00 - [2] - Quote Who ever said it would have cross platform multiplayer? PC servers and PS4 servers. Separated by time and space. More has been done...
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 3224	Posted - 2014.08.12 03:00:00 - [3] - Quote Who said it had to have cross platform multiplayer? Most multiplatform FPS games don't have it, why should Legion? That being said, there are other reasons it probably won't come to PS4. This is how a minja feels
Clone D Grundstein Automation 730	Posted - 2014.08.12 03:01:00 - [4] - Quote Given enough effort, Dust could run on a networked speak n spell. Don't tell me that it can't run on PS4. I think it's pretty obvious that CCP is steering away from consoles, though. A corp for lonewolves where squadding and comms are optional, but exceptional team play is expected. channel: blitz
Freccia di Lybra Maphia Clan Corporation 235	Posted - 2014.08.12 03:02:00 - [5] - Quote So, wait. Both of you said it should have two separate servers: one for PC and one for PS4. But it must be linked to Eve, how would you link three games one another, if two of them must never meet? What about, null sec districts, if any? What would they do? District 5 is under "corp. A" control, but it's also under "corp. B" control on PS4? Ei fu, xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
Jaselyn Cabellos Kitties of Doom 79	Posted - 2014.08.12 03:05:00 - [6] - Quote Freccia di Lybra wrote: So, wait. Both of you said it should have two separate servers: one for PC and one for PS4. But it must be linked to Eve, how would you link three games one another, if two of them must never meet? Gotta point there. Knifing Tanks to Death - Since 2016
Vell0cet Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 2116	Posted - 2014.08.12 03:07:00 - [7] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Who ever said it would have cross platform multiplayer? PC servers and PS4 servers. Separated by time and space. More has been done... One universe//one war. That's the whole CCP modus operendi. A single shard server is required to integrate with EVE. If there's never any EVE integration than Project Legion would be just a poor mans shooter with mediocre PvE. Best PvE idea ever!
Fizzer XCIV Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 53	Posted - 2014.08.12 03:08:00 - [8] - Quote Freccia di Lybra wrote: So, wait. Both of you said it should have two separate servers: one for PC and one for PS4. But it must be linked to Eve, how would you link three games one another, if two of them must never meet? What about, null sec districts, if any? What would they do? District 5 is under "corp. A" control, but it's also under "corp. B" control on PS4? So far, I haven't heard much about Legion having a strong connection to EvE.
danie sous DUST BRASIL S.A Dark Taboo 23	Posted - 2014.08.12 03:08:00 - [9] - Quote Freccia di Lybra wrote: So, wait. Both of you said it should have two separate servers: one for PC and one for PS4. But it must be linked to Eve, how would you link three games one another, if two of them must never meet? What about, null sec districts, if any? What would they do? District 5 is under "corp. A" control, but it's also under "corp. B" control on PS4? If eve is greenlit there won't be a dust connection to eve. PC will have to be shut off. Maybe FW.
Freccia di Lybra Maphia Clan Corporation 235	Posted - 2014.08.12 03:10:00 - [10] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Freccia di Lybra wrote: So, wait. Both of you said it should have two separate servers: one for PC and one for PS4. But it must be linked to Eve, how would you link three games one another, if two of them must never meet? What about, null sec districts, if any? What would they do? District 5 is under "corp. A" control, but it's also under "corp. B" control on PS4? So far, I haven't heard much about Legion having a strong connection to EvE. Vell0cet wrote: One universe//one war. That's the whole CCP modus operendi. A single shard server is required to integrate with EVE. If there's never any EVE integration than Project Legion would be just a poor mans shooter with mediocre PvE. Basically this; Their strenght is that their FPS is linked to another MMO, and both of them would possibly be influenced each others. If there's no link, there's no way CCP can compete with the FPS market. Althought it is true, CCP Rouge said there won't be any connection with the Eve universe, at least in the "begginning", there absolutely will be an integration with Eve. Ei fu, xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn

Freccia di Lybra Maphia Clan Corporation 235	Posted - 2014.08.12 03:11:00 - [11] - Quote danie sous wrote: Freccia di Lybra wrote: So, wait. Both of you said it should have two separate servers: one for PC and one for PS4. But it must be linked to Eve, how would you link three games one another, if two of them must never meet? What about, null sec districts, if any? What would they do? District 5 is under "corp. A" control, but it's also under "corp. B" control on PS4? If eve is greenlit there won't be a dust connection to eve. PC will have to be shut off. Maybe FW. But this is what will happen to Dust. I'm talking about an Eve: Legion port for ps4, not Dust. Ei fu, xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
mollerz 4798	Posted - 2014.08.12 03:14:00 - [12] - Quote It's posdible. It's already been done. Stop talking out of your analus please. CCP just skimped on labor so helmer could cosplay moar. Or something. Who knows. If say it's partly a leadership issue and partly a lack of the proper in house coding talent. Dingle Dust Berry.
Fizzer XCIV Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 53	Posted - 2014.08.12 03:16:00 - [13] - Quote See, you are just assuming there will be a link, even though none has ever been promised. There was a link promised for Dust when it was announced, and it (the link) hardly even exists. There was no link promised on Legion announcement. I wouldn't hold your hopes too high... Sure, it is logical for there to be a link, but we don't have logical devs, do we?
Spectre-M The Generals Anime Empire. 706	Posted - 2014.08.12 03:18:00 - [14] - Quote Shadowrun had cross platform between Xbox and PC. But that's cause of windows. sony would have to make software to multi platform across windows, which is owned by their direct competitor for hardware/software. Not sure if sony could just do it without support? Minnmitar in Amarr armor. A Wolf in Sheeps clothing. May the Empress live till she graces my sights.
mollerz 4800	Posted - 2014.08.12 03:22:00 - [15] - Quote You guys need to check out Gaijin. They are a small studio compared to CCP yet they managed to put out War Thunder. Ps4 and PC players fight together and against each other. Dingle Dust Berry.
Atiim Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 11333	Posted - 2014.08.12 03:23:00 - [16] - Quote We could just give DS3 users Aim Assist. DUST 514's 1st Matari Commando -HAND
Freccia di Lybra Maphia Clan Corporation 235	Posted - 2014.08.12 03:24:00 - [17] - Quote Spectre-M wrote: Shadowrun had cross platform between Xbox and PC. But that's cause of windows. sony would have to make software to multi platform across windows, which is owned by their direct competitor for hardware/software. Not sure if sony could just do it without support? Afaik, there's no technical issue: FFXIV:ARR is totally connected between ps3, ps4 (soon) and PC. But it's not an FPS! It is relatively easy to balance on an MMORPG between console and PCs, but what about FPS? There's no way a competitive FPS console gamer accept to challenge a competitive FPS PC gamer! Ei fu, xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
mollerz 4800	Posted - 2014.08.12 03:26:00 - [18] - Quote It's all about proper design. It's not insurmountable. Dingle Dust Berry.
Freccia di Lybra Maphia Clan Corporation 235	Posted - 2014.08.12 03:28:00 - [19] - Quote Atiim wrote: We could just give DS3 users Aim Assist. That's fair, but would it be enough? Will it be too strong? Will it be too weak? And what about all the other balance issues? Turn speed, the first that comes in my mind. Ei fu, xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
Fizzer XCIV Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 53	Posted - 2014.08.12 03:32:00 - [20] - Quote Freccia di Lybra wrote: Spectre-M wrote: Shadowrun had cross platform between Xbox and PC. But that's cause of windows. sony would have to make software to multi platform across windows, which is owned by their direct competitor for hardware/software. Not sure if sony could just do it without support? mollerz wrote: You guys need to check out Gaijin. They are a small studio compared to CCP yet they managed to put out War Thunder. Ps4 and PC players fight together and against each other. Afaik, there's no technical issue: FFXIV:ARR is totally connected between ps3, ps4 (soon) and PC. But it's not an FPS! It is relatively easy to balance on an MMORPG (or any other kind of game) between console and PCs, but what about FPS? There's no way a competitive FPS console gamer accept to challenge a competitive FPS PC gamer! Actually, with the almost nonexistent deadspots and encreased fidelity of the DS4, along with slight (slight!) aim assist, I'd imagine the DS4 would be just as good, if not superior, to M/KB.

Freccia di Lybra Maphia Clan Corporation 235	Posted - 2014.08.12 03:36:00 - [21] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Actually, with the almost nonexistent deadspots and encreased fidelity of the DS4, along with slight (slight!) aim assist, I'd imagine the DS4 would be just as good, if not superior, to M/KB. I don't know, I can't tell you any personal experience because I don't have a PS4 yet. But between an aim-assisted Dust 514 and planetside 2 on PC, it's much much easier for me to stay on target on PC...and I'm absolutely not to be considered a PC-gamer! Ei fu, xxwhitedevilxx former Co-CEO Maphia Clan Corporation / Unit Unicorn
Rowdy Railgunner Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 452	Posted - 2014.08.12 03:38:00 - [22] - Quote PS4 and XB1 are cheap PCs. There would be no difference in performance other than the different services that you would need to log into to play on the PS4 and XB1. Just for record, PS4 AND XB1 ARE CHEAP PCS WITH A DIFFERENT OS THAN WINDOWS. That is why Sony and Microsoft went with x86 architecture. EDIT: Actually, XB1 runs a bastardized version of windows 8..... so yeah, you "console" players are actually playing a "cheap gaming PC". So just STFU about console vs PC.
Spectre-M The Generals Anime Empire. 706	Posted - 2014.08.12 03:40:00 - [23] - Quote You can uh a mouse into the ps4 if you want. Doesn't it already have a driver for support? Also plug a GP into a PC? Minnmitar in Amarr armor. A Wolf in Sheeps clothing. May the Empress live till she graces my sights.
Fizzer XCIV Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 53	Posted - 2014.08.12 03:43:00 - [24] - Quote Freccia di Lybra wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Actually, with the almost nonexistent deadspots and encreased fidelity of the DS4, along with slight (slight!) aim assist, I'd imagine the DS4 would be just as good, if not superior, to M/KB. I don't know, I can't tell you any personal experience because I don't have a PS4 yet. But between an aim-assisted Dust 514 and planetside 2 on PC, it's much much easier for me to stay on target on PC...and I'm absolutely not to be considered a PC-gamer! Believe me, the DS4 is a thing of beauty. I'm not even sure if it has deadspots. Its comfy as all get out. Triggers are smoooooth. Squeaky at first, but they get quiet as a worm fart after breaking them in. The sticks have FAR more directional control, and a much more comfortable gradient of speeds. Overall, I'd say the DS4 is the single best controller ever released with a console. With a miniscule amount of aim assist, I'd say that it could be competitive with MKB on PC.
Clone D Grundstein Automation 732	Posted - 2014.08.12 03:44:00 - [25] - Quote Rowdy Railgunner wrote: PS4 and XB1 are cheap PCs. There would be no difference in performance other than the different services that you would need to log into to play on the PS4 and XB1. Just for record, PS4 AND XB1 ARE CHEAP PCS WITH A DIFFERENT OS THAN WINDOWS. That is why Sony and Microsoft went with x86 architecture. Are you sure about that? I heard that the PS4 OS is a modified version of linux running on a VM inside of a hyper-v on bootlegged Windows Server 2012. A corp for lonewolves where squadding and comms are optional, but exceptional team play is expected. channel: blitz
Rowdy Railgunner Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 452	Posted - 2014.08.12 03:46:00 - [26] - Quote Clone D wrote: Rowdy Railgunner wrote: PS4 and XB1 are cheap PCs. There would be no difference in performance other than the different services that you would need to log into to play on the PS4 and XB1. Just for record, PS4 AND XB1 ARE CHEAP PCS WITH A DIFFERENT OS THAN WINDOWS. That is why Sony and Microsoft went with x86 architecture. Are you sure about that? I heard that the PS4 OS is a modified version of linux running on a VM inside of a hyper-v on bootlegged Windows Server 2012. Might be, PS3 was highly mod-able with linux OS.
Rowdy Railgunner Capital Acquisitions LLC General Tso's Alliance 453	Posted - 2014.08.12 03:50:00 - [27] - Quote Fizzer XCIV wrote: Freccia di Lybra wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Actually, with the almost nonexistent deadspots and encreased fidelity of the DS4, along with slight (slight!) aim assist, I'd imagine the DS4 would be just as good, if not superior, to M/KB. I don't know, I can't tell you any personal experience because I don't have a PS4 yet. But between an aim-assisted Dust 514 and planetside 2 on PC, it's much much easier for me to stay on target on PC...and I'm absolutely not to be considered a PC-gamer! Believe me, the DS4 is a thing of beauty. I'm not even sure if it has deadspots. Its comfy as all get out. Triggers are smoooooth. Squeaky at first, but they get quiet as a worm fart after breaking them in. The sticks have FAR more directional control, and a much more comfortable gradient of speeds. Overall, I'd say the DS4 is the single best controller ever released with a console. With a miniscule amount of aim assist, I'd say that it could be competitive with MKB on PC. The offset thumbsticks of the Xbox are still greater than the DS4. DS4 was so close to offset thumbsticks too and they decided against it at the end because of brand separation between xbox and playstation. Unfortunate, because the DS4 does feel like a better built controller than the XB1 controller. XB1 controller just feels.... cheap.
Clone D Grundstein Automation 732	Posted - 2014.08.12 03:50:00 - [28] - Quote Rowdy Railgunner wrote: Clone D wrote: Rowdy Railgunner wrote: PS4 and XB1 are cheap PCs. There would be no difference in performance other than the different services that you would need to log into to play on the PS4 and XB1. Just for record, PS4 AND XB1 ARE CHEAP PCS WITH A DIFFERENT OS THAN WINDOWS. That is why Sony and Microsoft went with x86 architecture. Are you sure about that? I heard that the PS4 OS is a modified version of linux running on a VM inside of a hyper-v on bootlegged Windows Server 2012. Might be, PS3 was highly mod-able with linux OS. Eh, I was just trollin ya. Sorry ... won't happen again. A corp for lonewolves where squadding and comms are optional, but exceptional team play is expected. channel: blitz
Fizzer XCIV Company of Marcher Lords Amarr Empire 53	Posted - 2014.08.12 03:56:00 - [29] - Quote Rowdy Railgunner wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Freccia di Lybra wrote: Fizzer XCIV wrote: Actually, with the almost nonexistent deadspots and encreased fidelity of the DS4, along with slight (slight!) aim assist, I'd imagine the DS4 would be just as good, if not superior, to M/KB. I don't know, I can't tell you any personal experience because I don't have a PS4 yet. But between an aim-assisted Dust 514 and planetside 2 on PC, it's much much easier for me to stay on target on PC...and I'm absolutely not to be considered a PC-gamer! Believe me, the DS4 is a thing of beauty. I'm not even sure if it has deadspots. Its comfy as all get out. Triggers are smoooooth. Squeaky at first, but they get quiet as a worm fart after breaking them in. The sticks have FAR more directional control, and a much more comfortable gradient of speeds. Overall, I'd say the DS4 is the single best controller ever released with a console. With a miniscule amount of aim assist, I'd say that it could be competitive with MKB on PC. The offset thumbsticks of the Xbox are still greater than the DS4. DS4 was so close to offset thumbsticks too and they decided against it at the end because of brand separation between xbox and playstation. Unfortunate, because the DS4 does feel like a better built controller than the XB1 controller. XB1 controller just feels.... cheap. The symmetrical thumb sticks are more accessible to southpaw. Also, the preference of offset sticks is just that, a preference, as there is not hard evidence that it is superior. I personally prefer the symmetry and am glad that Sony opted for it.
mollerz 4805	Posted - 2014.08.12 04:00:00 - [30] - Quote Isn't the DS4 still analog? Dingle Dust Berry.

Chunky Munkey 5116	Posted - 2014.08.12 15:31:00 - [31] - Quote Freccia di Lybra wrote: How would you fix the cross platform multiplayer? Those two, are way too different platforms, and without any kind of aim assist, mouse is much more precise than ds3. Just one of the insane amount of balance issues that will come up. How would you fix them all? TL;DR If Legion is being developed for PC, there's no way it can be ported on PS4. There's a whole Drake's equation of diminishing probabilities to get through before you get to the chance of Legion reaching PS4. That realisation was the final nail in the coffin for my merc. Anyone clinging to that hope needs to cut their losses and accept it. Destiny won't kill Dust. CCP already did that.


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