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Hakyou Brutor
Pure Evil.
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Posted - 2014.08.08 05:35:00 -
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u mad bro? |
Commander Noctus
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.08.08 05:43:00 -
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Armor tank with only 11hp/s? And 300 shields (dual tank)? Also rather slow, using a short range set...I've seen better. |
Dovallis Martan JenusKoll
Osmon Surveillance Caldari State
914
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Posted - 2014.08.08 05:45:00 -
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Soon as that scout starts circling you, that armor becomes a liability.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
7081
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Posted - 2014.08.08 05:51:00 -
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Using a short ranged weapon, slow, with slow regen .
hahahaha, good luck.
see you space cowboy...
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JRleo jr
Xer Cloud Consortium
243
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Posted - 2014.08.08 06:13:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:
Using a short ranged weapon, slow, with slow regen .
hahahaha, good luck.
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Not Patrick57
Escrow Removed and Acquisition
53
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Posted - 2014.08.08 06:15:00 -
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It would be better with a Combat Rifle. :P |
JRleo jr
Xer Cloud Consortium
243
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Posted - 2014.08.08 06:17:00 -
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Not Patrick57 wrote:It would be better with a Combat Rifle. :P But the ar has more damage per clip...and its bonus...
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Commander Noctus
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
45
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Posted - 2014.08.08 06:26:00 -
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Better. I'd myself switch out the shields for damage mods, switch the triage for an ammo nanohive, and change one of the plates to a Complex Ferroscale for some speed. Also find a way to squeeze in a sidearm or grenade. |
Dj grammer
New Age Empire. General Tso's Alliance
292
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Posted - 2014.08.08 06:33:00 -
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CRs and RRs personally wanted me to tell you no. The eHP overall is a nice amount but you are only repairing at 11 hp/s out of 810 hp on armor. Doing the math, if you were to survive having 0 armor it will take you about 73 seconds to gain all of that back. Knowing that the time interval is too long to heal people will not only take advantage of that but they will also abuse your slow speed. Here is the same suit I pulled form you but with some changes.
You will notice immediately that there is a Six Kin CR and a Kinetic Catalyzer. The CR is for CQC like the Duvolle but with the unique 95% to shields and 110% to armor weapon profile This will do some justice. Now I do know that you get a bonus for hip dispersion and kick per level to the AR which was meant to take down shields. Then again the weapon is a personal choice.
I removed 3 enhanced armor plates for 2 complex reactive plates and a complex kinetic catalyzer. Sure you lose a chunk of armor (down to about 597 hp in armor) but in return you gained more sprint speed (it is at 7.79 m/s) and strafe speed (it is at 4.23 versus what you had). Keep in mind that the Complex Reactive Plates not give 3 hp/s to armor repair so having the 2 equals 6 hp/s + the 9.38 from the complex armor repair including the armor repair skill bonus + the dropsuit natural 2 hp/s armor repair puts the armor repair rate to 17.38 hp/s. Meaning the time to recover from 0 hp back to full is now about 34 seconds significantly cutting the time to heal from 0 to full in half from your fit.
So this fit may not be tanky as much as your but it gives your more repair per second and speed to get away from intense and ongoing firefights.
Darkness is a Beginning, you see, not an end.
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Hakyou Brutor
Pure Evil.
952
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Posted - 2014.08.08 06:37:00 -
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Dj grammer wrote:CRs and RRs personally wanted me to tell you no. The eHP overall is a nice amount but you are only repairing at 11 hp/s out of 810 hp on armor. Doing the math, if you were to survive having 0 armor it will take you about 73 seconds to gain all of that back. Knowing that the time interval is too long to heal people will not only take advantage of that but they will also abuse your slow speed. Here is the same suit I pulled form you but with some changes.You will notice immediately that there is a Six Kin CR and a Kinetic Catalyzer. The CR is for CQC like the Duvolle but with the unique 95% to shields and 110% to armor weapon profile This will do some justice. Now I do know that you get a bonus for hip dispersion and kick per level to the AR which was meant to take down shields. Then again the weapon is a personal choice. I removed 3 enhanced armor plates for 2 complex reactive plates and a complex kinetic catalyzer. Sure you lose a chunk of armor (down to about 597 hp in armor) but in return you gained more sprint speed (it is at 7.79 m/s) and strafe speed (it is at 4.23 versus what you had). Keep in mind that the Complex Reactive Plates not give 3 hp/s to armor repair so having the 2 equals 6 hp/s + the 9.38 from the complex armor repair including the armor repair skill bonus + the dropsuit natural 2 hp/s armor repair puts the armor repair rate to 17.38 hp/s. Meaning the time to recover from 0 hp back to full is now about 34 seconds significantly cutting the time to heal from 0 to full in half from your fit. So this fit may not be tanky as much as your but it gives your more repair per second and speed to get away from intense and ongoing firefights. ... thanks. I'm used to fitting scouts suits so I'm having a hard time finding a good assault fit. |
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
3696
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Posted - 2014.08.08 06:48:00 -
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Your suits undergone some major changes since the OP ... care to elaborate?
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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Hakyou Brutor
Pure Evil.
952
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Posted - 2014.08.08 06:57:00 -
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I did what Dj said and I put two reps on there, I don't have Complex plates so I had to make do with 1 Enhanced Ferroscale and 1 Enhanced regular. I used the CR cause I do prefer it over other weapons, I initially had the Duvolle on because I wanted to utilize the racial assault role, but the CR is better up close and at range. I put a KinCat on cause I love have speed, hence why I run scout right now. |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
3697
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Posted - 2014.08.08 07:49:00 -
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Hakyou Brutor wrote:I did what Dj said and I put two reps on there, I don't have Complex plates so I had to make do with 1 Enhanced Ferroscale and 1 Enhanced regular. I used the CR cause I do prefer it over other weapons, I initially had the Duvolle on because I wanted to utilize the racial assault role, but the CR is better up close and at range. I put a KinCat on cause I love have speed, hence why I run scout right now.
Roger that.
If I were going to run one of these nasties ...
Sneaky Scout might catch me off guard, but if I can survive his first two shotgun blasts, I'll win pretty much every time (thank you bunnyhop/backpedal). The Proficiency 5 CRG-3 hits for around 450 per blast in optimal range (5m), so my magic number is somewhere just over 900 HP.
This Assault Gk.0 is as fast as a Scout and fits my magic number criteria ... 935 HP (339 / 597) 8.64 Sprint 8.0 Rep/Sec
But I don't care for reactives, so I swapped 'em for another enh vanilla + cmp reps and ... 924 HP (339 / 586) 8.46 Sprint 11.3 Rep/Sec
* I'd be sh*t-out-of-luck trying to shotgun a decent player in either of these suits.
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
15659
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Posted - 2014.08.08 09:12:00 -
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It pains me greatly that you have a combat rifle on this.
If you're going to eschew the AR bonus (which admittedly isn't that good) and use whatever, you might as well spec into Amarr assault. It's basically the same thing but with more armour.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
3833
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Posted - 2014.08.08 09:17:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:It pains me greatly that you have a combat rifle on this.
If you're going to eschew the AR bonus (which admittedly isn't that good) and use whatever, you might as well spec into Amarr assault. It's basically the same thing but with more armour. Hey don't send that heathen are way, he obviously doesn't know how to do anything with armor.
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LASERS BTCH!!!!!!!
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Echo 1991
WarRavens Final Resolution.
400
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Posted - 2014.08.08 09:36:00 -
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Why no one use duvolle? I know the bonus makes no difference but that thing will be a fast repping, fast cqc monster. |
JRleo jr
Xer Cloud Consortium
243
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Posted - 2014.08.08 09:50:00 -
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Commander Noctus wrote:Better. I'd myself switch out the shields for damage mods, switch the triage for an ammo nanohive, and change one of the plates to a Complex Ferroscale for some speed. Also find a way to squeeze in a sidearm or grenade. No, I'm using armor as armor, my cal assault has 600 shields 50 rep rate, triage hive for low armor or cover, or when there's multiple people, I don't have damage mods, never used them.
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Sgt Buttscratch
R 0 N 1 N
2237
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Posted - 2014.08.08 13:29:00 -
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Love the assaults using the incorrect weapon for their bonus' then crying.
Give me my scrambler pistol back....**
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RYN0CER0S
Rise Of Old Dudes
895
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Posted - 2014.08.08 13:38:00 -
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My OP Galssault is a Commando.
Heavies, if you want to win. Mediums if you want to watch somebody win. Lights.... they died. Sorry, little fellas.
Who farted?
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Racro 01 Arifistan
501st Knights of Leanbox
402
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Posted - 2014.08.08 13:44:00 -
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mines better.
gallente assault gk.o (Charlie build)
highs. complex light damage modifier enhanced sidearm damge modifier enhanced presicon enhancement
lows. 2 or maybe 3 complex armour reps. 2 enhanced armour plates enhanced kinetic catalyzer.(if it fits. if not then 3 complex reps.)
equipment. k-2 nanohive
grenades. allotek flux grenade
sidearm creodron ion pistol
light weapon creodron breach AR.
Elite Gallenten Soldier
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Sgt Buttscratch
R 0 N 1 N
2239
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Posted - 2014.08.08 13:46:00 -
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the best fit for gal assault would be:
highs: shields lows: red and green cool aid.
this way the can not just run from heavies, but they can run all the way back to the redline.
Give me my scrambler pistol back....**
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JRleo jr
Xer Cloud Consortium
244
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Posted - 2014.08.08 13:47:00 -
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Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:mines better.
gallente assault gk.o (Charlie build)
highs. complex light damage modifier enhanced sidearm damge modifier enhanced presicon enhancement
lows. 2 or maybe 3 complex armour reps. 2 enhanced armour plates enhanced kinetic catalyzer.(if it fits. if not then 3 complex reps.)
equipment. k-2 nanohive
grenades. allotek flux grenade
sidearm creodron ion pistol
light weapon creodron breach AR.
Terribad and enjoy low armor for an armor tanker...
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Pink fluffy unicorns
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
3836
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Posted - 2014.08.08 13:47:00 -
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Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:mines better.
gallente assault gk.o (Charlie build)
highs. complex light damage modifier enhanced sidearm damge modifier enhanced presicon enhancement
lows. 2 or maybe 3 complex armour reps. 2 enhanced armour plates enhanced kinetic catalyzer.(if it fits. if not then 3 complex reps.)
equipment. k-2 nanohive
grenades. allotek flux grenade
sidearm creodron ion pistol
light weapon creodron breach AR.
*cough* scout wannabe *cough*
(Gê¬n+Ç-´)GèâGöüGÿån+ƒ.pâ+n+ín+ƒ.
LASERS BTCH!!!!!!!
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Hera Kaundur
501st Knights of Leanbox
1
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Posted - 2014.08.08 13:55:00 -
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You do realise that the gallente assault is ment for an armor rep tank, not armor tanking itself, and if you think a CR on a proto frame is good then get an mk.0, it has no place on a gk.0. the bonus makes all AR's awesome, why does no one see that.
Loyal Knight of CPU Green Heart
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
11567
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Posted - 2014.08.08 14:02:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:It pains me greatly that you have a combat rifle on this.
If you're going to eschew the AR bonus (which admittedly isn't that good) and use whatever, you might as well spec into Amarr assault. It's basically the same thing but with more armour. Hey don't send that heathen are way, he obviously doesn't know how to do anything with armor. I have to agree with my armor brother.
This human has no idea how to work with armor.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Racro 01 Arifistan
501st Knights of Leanbox
402
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Posted - 2014.08.08 14:03:00 -
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JRleo jr wrote:Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:mines better.
gallente assault gk.o (Charlie build)
highs. complex light damage modifier enhanced sidearm damge modifier enhanced presicon enhancement
lows. 2 or maybe 3 complex armour reps. 2 enhanced armour plates enhanced kinetic catalyzer.(if it fits. if not then 3 complex reps.)
equipment. k-2 nanohive
grenades. allotek flux grenade
sidearm creodron ion pistol
light weapon creodron breach AR.
Terribad and enjoy low armor for an armor tanker...
yes because 585.75 armour with 30.1 hp/s is bad when the gall assault is bonused to hybrid blaster weapons.. namely the ar. if you wanna run gall assault learn how to be galletne and use ar.s your a scrub if you think 585.75 armour with 30hp/s is bad. and my creo breach wont miss..
Elite Gallenten Soldier
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
11567
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Posted - 2014.08.08 14:03:00 -
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Hera Kaundur wrote:You do realise that the gallente assault is ment for an armor rep tank, not armor tanking itself, and if you think a CR on a proto frame is good then get an mk.0, it has no place on a gk.0. the bonus makes all AR's awesome, why does no one see that. The bonuses barely do anything...
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Racro 01 Arifistan
501st Knights of Leanbox
402
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Posted - 2014.08.08 14:04:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:mines better.
gallente assault gk.o (Charlie build)
highs. complex light damage modifier enhanced sidearm damge modifier enhanced presicon enhancement
lows. 2 or maybe 3 complex armour reps. 2 enhanced armour plates enhanced kinetic catalyzer.(if it fits. if not then 3 complex reps.)
equipment. k-2 nanohive
grenades. allotek flux grenade
sidearm creodron ion pistol
light weapon creodron breach AR.
*cough* scout wannabe *cough*
yes iam a scout because iam playing to my suits strength's and bonus's
Elite Gallenten Soldier
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Hera Kaundur
501st Knights of Leanbox
2
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Posted - 2014.08.08 14:05:00 -
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Then you don't use AR's properly then, i have lvl3 sharpshooter and i never miss.
Loyal Knight of CPU Green Heart
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Sgt Buttscratch
R 0 N 1 N
2240
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Posted - 2014.08.08 14:05:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Hera Kaundur wrote:You do realise that the gallente assault is ment for an armor rep tank, not armor tanking itself, and if you think a CR on a proto frame is good then get an mk.0, it has no place on a gk.0. the bonus makes all AR's awesome, why does no one see that. The bonuses barely do anything... Assault should get damage bonus', so they can assault. But it does help still..
Give me my scrambler pistol back....**
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Racro 01 Arifistan
501st Knights of Leanbox
402
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Posted - 2014.08.08 14:08:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Hera Kaundur wrote:You do realise that the gallente assault is ment for an armor rep tank, not armor tanking itself, and if you think a CR on a proto frame is good then get an mk.0, it has no place on a gk.0. the bonus makes all AR's awesome, why does no one see that. The bonuses barely do anything...
yes they don't do anything when clearl;y my breach ar is not missing against scouts. and my ion shots always land.....and my wepaons cost fck all to fit, and grenades..(soon)
Elite Gallenten Soldier
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Racro 01 Arifistan
501st Knights of Leanbox
402
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Posted - 2014.08.08 14:11:00 -
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Hera Kaundur wrote:Then you don't use AR's properly then, i have lvl3 sharpshooter and i never miss.
I have 5
Elite Gallenten Soldier
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Hera Kaundur
501st Knights of Leanbox
2
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Posted - 2014.08.08 14:15:00 -
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Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:Hera Kaundur wrote:Then you don't use AR's properly then, i have lvl3 sharpshooter and i never miss. I have 5
Show off
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Cody Sietz
SVER True Blood Dark Taboo
3799
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Posted - 2014.08.08 14:23:00 -
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It's all about repair bro. 2-3 reps, and devise the rest between Ferroscale and reactive plates.
Maybe 1 shield mod but the rest gotta be dmg mods in order to bring the Duvolle in line with the ACR.
"I do agree with you there though. shudders"
-Arkena Wyrnspire
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Hera Kaundur
501st Knights of Leanbox
2
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Posted - 2014.08.08 14:31:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:It's all about repair bro. 2-3 reps, and devise the rest between Ferroscale and reactive plates.
Maybe 1 shield mod but the rest gotta be dmg mods in order to bring the Duvolle in line with the ACR.
Exactly, finally someone else understands!!
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
2989
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Posted - 2014.08.08 14:58:00 -
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Commander Noctus wrote:Armor tank with only 11hp/s? And 300 shields (dual tank)? Also rather slow, using a short range set...I've seen better. ^ spot on.. Them scouts will eat you.
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
11568
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Posted - 2014.08.08 15:25:00 -
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Racro 01 Arifistan wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Hera Kaundur wrote:You do realise that the gallente assault is ment for an armor rep tank, not armor tanking itself, and if you think a CR on a proto frame is good then get an mk.0, it has no place on a gk.0. the bonus makes all AR's awesome, why does no one see that. The bonuses barely do anything... yes they don't do anything when clearl;y my breach ar is not missing against scouts. and my ion shots always land.....and my wepaons cost fck all to fit, and grenades..(soon) The Breach AR doesn't miss anyway, it has the most accuracy of any plasma rifle.
The Ion Pistol is a joke, even with that bonus it still can't reliably hit anything 8 meters in front of it. And yes I have tested it.
And I wasn't talking about the weapon fitting bonuses.
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Hakyou Brutor
Pure Evil.
953
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Posted - 2014.08.08 19:21:00 -
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Wow alright, so I see a lot of hate for my revised fit...
I use the CR because it has more stopping power, and more range
Sure, I'll try the Duvolle, but I've already tried it on other suits and the small boost to accuracy isn't going to help the fact that the CR out DPS' it by over 200
The CR is easier to fit
I'm not armor tanking hard, because I like to have a bit of speed and with 900 armor I'd be slow as ****
Two damage mods so I can be OP
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Dj grammer
New Age Empire. General Tso's Alliance
296
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Posted - 2014.08.08 19:27:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:It's all about repair bro. 2-3 reps, and devise the rest between Ferroscale and reactive plates.
Maybe 1 shield mod but the rest gotta be dmg mods in order to bring the Duvolle in line with the ACR.
Agreed but I did remember saying the weapon is a personal choice best example would be seeing a rail rifle on a gallente suit. it was his choice so let it be.
But i agree that it will take about 2 damage modifiers to bring the duvolle in line with the ACRs.
Darkness is a Beginning, you see, not an end.
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Hera Kaundur
501st Knights of Leanbox
3
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Posted - 2014.08.09 06:49:00 -
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Hakyou Brutor wrote:Wow alright, so I see a lot of hate for my revised fit...
I use the CR because it has more stopping power, and more range
Sure, I'll try the Duvolle, but I've already tried it on other suits and the small boost to accuracy isn't going to help the fact that the CR out DPS' it by over 200
The CR is easier to fit
I'm not armor tanking hard, because I like to have a bit of speed and with 900 armor I'd be slow as ****
Two damage mods so I can be OP
Any more questions?
I s'pose I can respect the fact that you use the CR because its your personal preference, but it doesn't change the fact that the CR is the FoTM weapon. Well that and the SCR, they need some work to bring them back in line with other rifles.
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JRleo jr
Xer Cloud Consortium
248
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Posted - 2014.08.09 06:50:00 -
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Hakyou Brutor wrote:Wow alright, so I see a lot of hate for my revised fit...
I use the CR because it has more stopping power, and more range
Sure, I'll try the Duvolle, but I've already tried it on other suits and the small boost to accuracy isn't going to help the fact that the CR out DPS' it by over 200
The CR is easier to fit
I'm not armor tanking hard, because I like to have a bit of speed and with 900 armor I'd be slow as ****
Two damage mods so I can be OP
Any more questions? You can have 700 armor ahd 20 rep rate...
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Pink fluffy unicorns
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Hakyou Brutor
Pure Evil.
956
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Posted - 2014.08.09 07:59:00 -
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JRleo jr wrote:Hakyou Brutor wrote:Wow alright, so I see a lot of hate for my revised fit...
I use the CR because it has more stopping power, and more range
Sure, I'll try the Duvolle, but I've already tried it on other suits and the small boost to accuracy isn't going to help the fact that the CR out DPS' it by over 200
The CR is easier to fit
I'm not armor tanking hard, because I like to have a bit of speed and with 900 armor I'd be slow as **** Two damage mods so I can be OP
Any more questions? You can have 700 armor ahd 20 rep rate... HIgh;ighted for you |
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