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Posted - 2014.08.20 16:02:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Foundation Seldon wrote:Totally not a sensationalist headline for this thread.
No, despite the polarization of Republican and Democrats in the US I do not believe Civil War in this country is even remotely possible given the current political situation. If you have evidence to the contrary then please stop dicking around and post it. Especially since many of the states who you would suspect of secession heavily rely on Federal funding. Louisiana, Mississippi, are all states that rely on taxes nationally.
Unlike States such as Ma. NY, CT. Vt. Penn. NJ. Cal. Was. Ore. that are 100 billion in debt, because they promised money to the southern states in the 1960's to support welfare states.
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Posted - 2014.08.20 16:03:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:ThePlayerkyle13 wrote:PoP SoTa wrote:For the love of god, stop using Youtube as a source. No one is going to take it seriously. If this is real link the real damn article.
i hate posters who speak of politics then link videos that cut footages or messages, it's so out of context its brutally dishonest. Did you even look at the links? Of course you didn't because it was from RT America news source. This is the internet, news sources are everywhere on it, information is stored in it, you are soo cynical & judgmental... I suggest you watch PBS News. It's the ONLY non-biased news station in the nation. Democrats and Republicans hate that station because it's unbiased and it's unbiased because it's publicly funded. It's not like CNN or FOX where they are privately funded.
HAHAHAHA!
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Posted - 2014.08.22 17:18:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:Travis Stanush wrote:Civil War in America? Hehe if only we could be that lucky... Short answer is a resounding NO
Long answer is that no one wants to give up the comforts they currently have be it the elite of this country or the lowest class seriously a war here would destroy all of our infrastructure, our current quality of life.
The American people as a whole are content with the current situation. Who wants to give up their nice house, cars, and THINGS in general for something they didn't even really notice? That is the greatest obstacle the war there is. Realistically as long as the quality of life for the majority is unaffected there will be be no change. Does the fact that the USA is divided into states cause many issues?. that is something i don't know anything about really.
Our founders knew the saying that absolute power corrupts absolutely so they designed a system that had a weak national gov. ( Washington DC), and strong state government. They knew that keeping power local would provide the people immediate recourse if they descented authority.
Taxation up until the early 20th century was not a legal function of the federal government, but the liberals instituted the IRS our national taxation department in DC.
The inflow of tax revenue made DC very powerful and the corruption of power began.
We are slowly becoming a socialist welfare state at the federal level- renamed progressivism ..lol!
We are DOOMED to become like Europe! High taxation, high unemployement and institutionalised stupidity.
The liberal states such as California, New York are billions of dollars in debt. Washington is up to 17 trillion dollars in debt, and we have unfunded liabilities in tge 150 trillion dollar range. We borrow 4 billion dollars a day from foreign investors, and spend anothe 8 billion dollars each day.
We are cannibals that eat our businesses with the highest corporate tax rate in the world, a rate 2x the UK's.
States need to stand up to the feds and remind the what our constitution says and that the federal government only exists because the states allow it, and the people, and that is not a collective definition as you europeans see it, but it is the individual that has power-liberty and unalienable rights.
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Posted - 2014.08.22 18:40:00 -
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Paternally both my grand parents where from Puritan ancestory immigrated to Boston in 1630. Maternally one was also Puritan/Norman and one "First French" early 1620's immigrated to Arcadia Nova Scotia.
My paternal ancestor's father was the sherrif of Rutland England in approx. 1619 and a Cambridge prof at death. Both of his grandfathers where MP's under queen Elizabeth, maternal name was Laurence Chadderton, from Lancashire and help translate the KJV Bible. Paternally the name was Archdeacon Robert Johnson born in Stamford.
Sir. John Fitz John my first known ancestor presented himself to his norman fellow Robert of Scottland and was renamed, because Norman heraldic names where nonsensical outside of Normandy. The scottish King game him lands in Lincolnshire and Lancashire and was tasked with the protection of the Templar Highway. Sir John was only 20 years of age and had 20 knights and 200 men at arms when he had returned from the crusades.
We assume since his name ties him to Rounne fr. he was from a 1066 norman family. |
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Posted - 2014.08.22 19:06:00 -
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Travis Stanush wrote:TechMechMeds wrote:Travis Stanush wrote:GLOBAL fils'de RAGE wrote:Paternally both my grand parents where from Puritan ancestory immigrated to Boston in 1630. Maternally one was also Puritan/Norman and one "First French" early 1620's immigrated to Arcadia Nova Scotia.
My paternal ancestor's father was the sherrif of Rutland England in approx. 1619 and a Cambridge prof at death. Both of his grandfathers where MP's under queen Elizabeth, maternal name was Laurence Chadderton, from Lancashire and help translate the KJV Bible. Paternally the name was Archdeacon Robert Johnson born in Stamford.
Sir. John Fitz John my first known ancestor presented himself to his norman fellow Robert of Scottland and was renamed, because Norman heraldic names where nonsensical outside of Normandy. The scottish King game him lands in Lincolnshire and Lancashire and was tasked with the protection of the Templar Highway. Sir John was only 20 years of age and had 20 knights and 200 men at arms when he had returned from the crusades.
We assume since his name ties him to Rounne fr. he was from a 1066 norman family. Umm ok.... Thanks for the family history? It was most interesting. *Terrance and Philip voice* fk you buddy!. No its cool he knows all that but I thought we were here to talk of the ills of American politics.
We are, I was just sharing my roots with the OP. |
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Posted - 2014.08.22 19:30:00 -
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TechMechMeds wrote:GLOBAL fils'de RAGE wrote:Paternally both my grand parents where from Puritan ancestory immigrated to Boston in 1630. Maternally one was also Puritan/Norman and one "First French" early 1620's immigrated to Arcadia Nova Scotia.
My paternal ancestor's father was the sherrif of Rutland England in approx. 1619 and a Cambridge prof at death. Both of his grandfathers where MP's under queen Elizabeth, maternal name was Laurence Chadderton, from Lancashire and help translate the KJV Bible. Paternally the name was Archdeacon Robert Johnson born in Stamford.
Sir. John Fitz John my first known ancestor presented himself to his norman fellow Robert of Scottland and was renamed, because Norman heraldic names where nonsensical outside of Normandy. The scottish King game him lands in Lincolnshire and Lancashire and was tasked with the protection of the Templar Highway. Sir John was only 20 years of age and had 20 knights and 200 men at arms when he had returned from the crusades.
We assume since his name ties him to Rounne fr. he was from a 1066 norman family. Hehe. Norman scumbag!. Nah im joking. My name pre dates the Norman invasion but no doubt my lineage suffered a lot of pillage. The UK is a great place, that's why buggers constantly tried to take it, it was a nice place to go away from the nightmares of the rest of the world during ancient times and in many respects, still is. This is why so many migrate here and i am proud that we are officially a multicultural society, there's no discrimination where functioning as a human being is concerned. My mothers maiden name is Wood but obviously my name is of my fathers which is also a very old name. My mums side of the family has viking in them where as my dads is 'British' (No such thing as pure British if you go back far enough). Anyway im off to play dust. That was a very interesting read and very interesting that a fellow American bothered to look into where he/she has come from. I love history. I am from the East Anglia part of the UK. Ps. Does Valeene exist still in the USA?, there may be a chance that i have some kind of ownership of some kind, not that I'd pursue it.
I went through RAF Mildenhall quite a few times, in the late 80's I worked with 22 SAS on their demand breating gear for HAHO. They took me on a tour of the 6 lost villages in the Norfolk proving grounds. Some day I'll return as a proper tourist..lol
There is a Valeene in Indiana. |
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