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Killer's Coys Prima Gallicus 103	Posted - 2014.08.05 14:04:00 - [1] - Quote At the moment scout can become : - scout - assault - logi But, they have things assault and logi don't have : - cloack - small hitbox - straff speed - stamina - HP regen - stamina regen - speed More than the assault : - 2nd equipment More than logi : - sidearm weapon We laught about it, but it's real : scout with 600-700HP (+/- 80% of experienced DUST players) = assault / logi with 900-1000HP Scout is the best class (with the heavy) at the moment. And the scout bonus changing will not change that. Balancing.... balancing... What's that word ? I don't know this word... Scout are so much OP at the moment.. Assault (and commando) are useless when there are scout in a game. For Planetary Conquest players : Since 1.8, have you ever seen more than 1 assault in PC battle ? I don't. Since 1.8, have you seen more than 4 scouts in EACH PC battle ? I do. Always. Need to think about that CCP. Waiting Charlie for 2 month... And finally not even half of the things will be done... And Assault will still suck.
Killer's Coys Prima Gallicus 103	Posted - 2014.08.05 15:10:00 - [2] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Scouts arent OP. You're a scout... And you love it That's no possible people sau "scouts aren't OP" Scout are OP compared to commando and assault. That's not my opinion. That's the true. People don't like the true. But the true is the best thing to advance to a better game Waiting Charlie for 2 month... And finally not even half of the things will be done... And Assault will still suck.
Killer's Coys Prima Gallicus 104	Posted - 2014.08.05 20:31:00 - [3] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Im assault and scout from the start of my game. I runned UP cal assault when every other runned logis with 3compx dmg mods. I like to play as a scout, assault, AV, tanker. Lastly even commando. So dont say that i say scouts arent OP only because i use them. Assaults will get buff and we will use them once again. Commandos on other hand are also viable. ScR + RR/CR combo kick as$es. About plating. Gallente scouts can stack few ferroscales to get 400armor, and be in some sort invisible on tancent. Maybe lower ferros hp or i dunno. Thats what CCP should fix. Just at the moment, I've the Calda assault and the Calda scout, the choose is early done... I love playing with my assault, but when you're against scout-tanked-cloacked-ACR it's very difficult. What I want to balance everything : (but that's my opinion, maybe it's not very balanced lol) 1) +1 slot and HP buff (150) for assault 2) scouts bonus (actually on the suit) => (goes to) mods efficienty (=> stop scout-assault with amazing bonus) (for example : after Hotfix Charlie, Calscout will be able to fit armor plate and be invisible) 3) fix armor plate (traditionnal armor plate) - basic : 85hp and 6% penality speed - enhanced : 115hp (like now I think) and 8% penality speed - complex : 135hp and 10% penality speed Why ? => heavies don't need to fit armor plate, and if they do, they couldn't move very well => if armor-scouts want to be tanked, they will be slow => with HP buff for assault, people say "Amarr assault could have 1200HP armor ! Amazing !) If an Amarr assault wants to have a lot of armor hp (5complex armor plate) = 50% speed penality = 3.5m/s run speed. That's slow, but the Amarr is tanked. => Ferros and Reactive plates could become interesting. EDIT : if scouts aren't OP, Commando and Assault are UP Waiting Charlie for 2 month... And finally not even half of the things will be done... And Assault will still suck.
Killer's Coys Prima Gallicus 104	Posted - 2014.08.05 20:59:00 - [4] - Quote RayRay James wrote: Actually, this statement is entirely your opinion as based by the replies counter to your points. You think it's true based on your perceived problems with a class. If I had to venture a guess, you haven't discovered a counter to scouts yet, that's not the scouts fault but your own I'm not a scout, I'm a logi. I don't think scouts are OP at all. My thoughts on them are: they're fast and squishy or slow and somewhat less squishy. If you're playing a scout properly, I should never know you're there, but if I do see you you're dead. Hmmm... I see Maybe I had to be more accurate... Caldari scout : - 4 shield extenders (complex) - 2 complex dampeners - Duvolle AR - SMG - ARN-18 Cloack - nanohive Any speed penality, they are invisible, they have 453HP SHIELD, they have the cloack, they have a proto weapon, and they have 50HP/sec shield regen, with better shield regulation They are fast and squishy AND they have HP and a proto light/assault weapon. For me, that's not normal. scout is so much better than assault (I take the Calda example) EDIT: I've just understood why you don't understand me. Everyone has his vision of things... For you (maybe) scouts aren't OP, but assaults are UP For me, scouts are OP and assault aren't UP. The comparaison is the same. Scouts > assaults. I hope you to agree with me Waiting Charlie for 2 month... And finally not even half of the things will be done... And Assault will still suck.
Killer's Coys Prima Gallicus 106	Posted - 2014.08.06 09:39:00 - [5] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Ill explain it to you : 1. Cal scout cant be invisible (cant get under 15db) 2. 454 shields are 4 ScR shoots 3. Tanked Caldari scout have lower hp than Assault with 1 hp mod 4. Assault are getting buff. 5. Once again. Caldari and matar scouts are easier to kill than gallente Yes, maybe on the website, but on the battlefront, that's nit the same thing... 1. With the hitbox, you can get less damage 2. With the straff speed, you can avoid some fire 3. With the cloack, you can hide 4. With the stamina and the speed, you can go away 5. With the shield regen (50HP/s) you can go back to the Battlefront after a few seconds And, you've said : 454 shield are 4 ScR shoots With the assault calda "buff" Caldassault will have (I've lade a fit) - 452.2HP shield and 150HP armor - 48HP/s shield regen - almost the same run speed - almost the same stamina - sidearm weapon is proto So... Without the hitbox and the cloack (and the invisibility) assault will stay under scout (I speak about Calda) => The buff isn't enought. Buff HP please. Waiting Charlie for 2 month... And finally not even half of the things will be done... And Assault will still suck.

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