Dude... I got 12/2/0 401k ISK 7k SP and 2620 WP in a match yesterday driving my Sica... killed 5 tanks with it, we don't need better tanks, you need better skills, and fittings.

Personally, I'd like to see the Enforcer and Marauder both make comeback...but with a siege mode module similar to the Starship Marauder's Bastion Mode (for the Enforcer HAV) and the Dreadnought's Siege Mode (For the Marauder HAV).

The Bastion Mode Space Side, when active, increases the Optimal Range of the starship by 30% as well as providing 30% damage resistance and doubling the efficacy of local repair systems, while making the starship immobile (neither sublight, nor warp drive will activate). Not all of these features are necessary, I would be in favor of a module that immobilizes the maurader, while increasing weapon optimal range and zoom fidelity. If one of the HAV's has a missile Optimal Range increase, it should be done through weapon Velocity, not flight time.

The Seige Mode Space Side, when active, increases the Damage Multiplier of turrets by 700% (no joke, look it up on the wiki) and doubles the efficacy of local repair system, while making the starship immobile, and reducing Scan Resolution (which makes them take longer to lock onto targets). The HAV version of this might have a different bonus for each weapon to increase firepower, while making it take longer to turn the turret around, while the HAV itself is immobilized.

Neither of these can be deactivated mid-cycle, so once a starship activates them, they are committed until the timer runs out.

With the more recent changes to the HAV Skill Tree's I have often found myself wistfully looking back at what we had in the past, and what that led me to realise is that much of the HAV's potential and sense of progression is now lost.

What I mean by this is that the HAV tree lacks real incentive to put your SP into the role, with the attempted tiericide and rework of vehicles to achieve waves or opportunity all we have done is seen HAV go through the motions of being ultra powerful against AV and a new meta where every HAV was the same and low SP HAV could dominate the field with relative ease.

I suggest this being a heavily skilled tanker..... who this morning realised that I have less than 1 Million SP in vehicle Command....and only Level 1 in HAV command being a pointless skill.

I propose now with HAV and AV in a more balance place, and little for CCP to lose at this late point in the game, that the removed Enforcer HAV be restablished as the "next tier up" of HAV equivalent to Assault Dropships. I also propose that HAV Command skills be broken back down into their racial options, meaning HAV pilots require the requisite skills to be able to field specific HAV.

In order to do this new skills...or old ones.... would have to be implemented.

HAV Command

Vehicle Command- Allows Access to Militia/ Standard HAV (perhaps redesignated Sica and Soma)

Caldari/ Gallente Heavy Attack Vehicle Command- Allows Access to the ADV Tier Racial HAV (The Gunlogi and Madrugar)

Caldari/ Gallente Enforcer Command- Allows Access to the Prototype Tier Racial HAV and provides the following bonuses per level

Caldari Enforcer HAV LVL 5: +2-3% to missile damage and range per level; +2% maximum zoom per level
Gallente Enforcer HAV LVL 5: +2-3% to blaster damage and range per level; +2% maximum zoom per level

The Enforcer Hull

Prior to the decreases in HAV Hull price the Enforcer HAV used to sell for about 1,277,000 ISK before Modules and Turrets, usually ending up around about 2.5 or more Million ISK being the most expensive vehicle in the game.

I would suggest that with the reintroduction of Enforcer HAV the Hull cost of each Enforcer HAV should sit around 636,000 - 757,000 ISK (with other HAV hulls increasing in price to match roughly across the tiers) before modules and turrets. In addition to this both the Enforcer hull should receive slight boosts to their predessors stats in terms of CPU and or PG fitting capacity alongside and additional slot to their racial tanking type (high for the Caldari and a Low for the Gallente.)

Gunnlogi
Shields-2650
Armour-1500
PG- 2120
CPU- 845
High Slots-3
Low Slots- 2

Falchion
Shields-2650
Armour-1500
PG- 2438 (15% increase)
CPU- 972 (15% Increase)
High Slots-4
Low Slots- 2

Madrugar
Shields-2650
Armour-1500
PG- 2490
CPU- 475
High Slots-2
Low Slots- 3

Vayu
Shields-1200
Armour-4000
PG- 2676 (7.5% increase)
CPU- 570 (20% increase)
High Slots-2
Low Slots- 4

I certainly feel like the re-integration of Enforcer HAV into the game would bring a bit more interest back into HAV piloting as a high risk and highly customisable role that allows players to being their role using the basic Sica or Soma variant, move on to the main Gunlogi and Madrugar tier, and take that beyond if they settle in the role to become top tier and dedicated Tankers.

Please consider this.

I also ask my fellow forumers, especially AVer's like Atiim and King Checkmate to comment. I value that sort of imput a great deal.

Not really.....

I am for removing MLT HAV...... or at least perhaps having Militia Sica and regular Sica to differentiate the tiers.

Sica and Soma become Standard and are covered by the HAV Command Skills

Gunlogi and Madrugar are Advanced HAV and are covered by Racial HAV Command Skills

Vayu and Falchion become Prototype HAV and are covered by Racial Enforcer Command Skills.