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Felix Thunide
Tharumec
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Posted - 2014.07.31 18:49:00 -
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I started Eve Online in 2008 after having created the biggest guild on my server in WoW. I quit WoW because my son was born and my guild members couldn't understand why I took a break for a few months. It was time to find a more mature crowd. From there I tenaciously, and ecstatically climbed the steep learning curve of Eve Online, and the more I learned the more there was to learn. After having made so many mistakes I started to meet with success from time to time. My goals began to take shape and I was hooked.
My corp history is pretty long, I followed my pirate friend around quite a bit then turned my attention towards the rank and file of null-sec. Learned allot, got into some massive fights, watched the Northern Coalition crumble, good times! From there I joined an RP corp, pretty neat actually. Then WH corp, good money, but gawd was it boring when I was the only person on. Back out to null, whole lot of, GÇ£Nope don't want to deal with this **** again,GÇ¥ started to take hold. Went back to high-sec and started my own corp, I had heard Dust 514 was coming out soon and it was time to prepare a foundation to bring Dust and Eve together in one organization and position myself and my members to take full advantage of whatever may come.
I bought a PS3 even though I had an Xbox 360 so I could play Dust, bought my way into the Beta as soon as that became an option. I don't have a ton of money, but hey I'm a CCP fanboy! I had a blast with Dust, I couldn't wait for orbital bombardments, I couldn't wait to join an alliance and start conquering planets with the combined arms of Space, Air, and Ground combat. I gathered up a goodly size of members who shared my vision, joined an alliance who also became passively interested in my goals, and we all watched closely as things developed. I had good members, good leaders came from those members, on both Dust and Eve sides, and the corporation I had developed was a force to be reckoned with on either side, but the Dust Eve connection was not getting much bigger over time.
Eventually the goals began to change on both sides. My Eve members wanted to make more of an impact, we set up a POS and started turning a profit. My Dust members wanted to do PC battles, we began merccing ourselves out. Corp chat always had people in it, but there was no common ground between my Eve side and my Dust side so these people didn't have much use for each other beyond a little small talk from time to time. The point of contention came with taxes of all things. We raised taxes to 10% to pay for Eve bills and put it to use paying bonuses out in faction battles in Dust which became even more of an incentive when those battles started paying only in LP. 10% is chump change in Eve, but in Dust it feels pretty significant and my leadership on both sides couldn't change those taxes to meet their needs without screwing the other side.
Moral was waning and I had to do something to try and unify the corp, keep it in one piece until CCP's master plan was unleashed. Then each side would be of great use to each other and taxes would be a small detail. POCO's became conquerable and I went for it. Even got in a spat over one that resulted in a huge fight. Fun times until the corp we attacked bought some mercs of their own. They achieved a pyrrhic victory and should get a return on their investment in 5 years or so. My corp split from the alliance they were in. The Eve side wanted to see new horizons and the Dust side really wasn't restricted in any way by what alliance we were in or what area of operation we chose.
The new expansions came out for Eve and Dust and they had no new additions to the Dust/Eve link, the corp came apart at the seams and I spent a huge amount of my time for about three days sorting people out and surgically amputating my corp into two separate fully functional groups with surprisingly minimal loss of members. Out of an 80 man corp we had two, each just under 40 members.
Those two corporations are still alive and well, they are doing what works for them and I have stepped out of leadership although I still retain my title in both. The Eve corp went to Null-sec, the Dust corp is an enjoyable low drama corp who sometimes lends members to PC battles. Project Legion sounds like it will suffer from many of the same fundamental problems Dust does, Eve's sandbox components are still largely in control of Null tyrants, and Project Valkyrie will be exclusive to Oculus Rift, which I do not intend to buy. I'm disappointed to say, I'm painfully losing interest in my favorite hobby of the last 6 years. Also, I have been cheating on you with other games this whole time... |
Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
2401
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Posted - 2014.08.01 13:34:00 -
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You're doing your thing, minding your own business, when suddenly a wild wall of text appears!
Dust Loyalist
Greedy Bastards
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Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
2401
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Posted - 2014.08.01 13:36:00 -
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IN B4 "Cool story, Bro"
Dust Loyalist
Greedy Bastards
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Tech De Ra
Electronic Sports League
539
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Posted - 2014.08.01 14:53:00 -
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Anarchide wrote:Cool story, Bro
Inafter
Prime League champion
SGL Sidearm champion
Fanfest '14 All star champion
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Temba Fusrodah
Ganksters Inc Drake Ashigaru
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Posted - 2014.08.01 16:54:00 -
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Getting Dust514 and EVE Online fully integrated is the great not kept promise of CCP.
Many of us who were EVE players without a PS3 bought into the good sales pitch put forth by the boys from Iceland. EVE was great why wouldn't Dust be just as good when working in tandem in the same sandbox of "your individual actions count" universe.
Dust514 never was given a real economy, it was never allowed real meaningful integration with EVE Online, and yes the passion waned as nerfs to improve and balance the game did nothing to improve game play and arguably made the game worse.
CCP we are still waiting and hoping you get this act together and rescue what should be a dynamic partner to EVE online.
Killing targets since the beta days! A DUST514 Original Gankster!
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Jaysyn Larrisen
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
1240
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Posted - 2014.08.03 14:29:00 -
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I can definitely sympathize. The link between Dust and Eve was the big attraction for me as well. I thnk you'll find the that at least the new CPM gets that.
Might want to check this out:
Biomassed Episode 12: Legion Link pt 1
Biomassed Episode 13: Legion Link pt 2 (with CSM FunkyBacon)
"Endless money forms the sinews of War." - Cicero
Skype: jaysyn.larrisen
Twitter: @JaysynLarrisen
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jenza aranda
BetaMax.
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Posted - 2014.08.06 14:23:00 -
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TL:DR version:
I had a big WoW guild so you know my e-peen is big, you should listen to me.
Quit WoW because of kids, played eve, did eve stuff.
Bought a PS3 for dust, started big corp in eve, more e-peen, fanboy'd, lamented at lack of connectivity, eve players did eve stuff, dust players did PC and stuff. Taxes started ******* things up.
People started to get pissed, eve guys did more eve stuff dust guys did sod all.
Corp now spilt into dust stuff and eve stuff, some stuff about not wanting to play Valk, plenty of QQ.
Dust 514 101 // Dust 514 Wiki
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Tesfa Alem
Until thee End RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.08.07 00:27:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:TL:DR version:
I had a big WoW guild so you know my e-peen is big, you should listen to me.
Quit WoW because of kids, played eve, did eve stuff.
Bought a PS3 for dust, started big corp in eve, more e-peen, fanboy'd, lamented at lack of connectivity, eve players did eve stuff, dust players did PC and stuff. Taxes started ******* things up.
People started to get pissed, eve guys did more eve stuff dust guys did sod all.
Corp now spilt into dust stuff and eve stuff, some stuff about not wanting to play Valk, plenty of QQ.
Thans for needlessly clarifying for us...
TL:DR edgy
Redline for Thee, but no Redline for Me.
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Leither Yiltron
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
928
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Posted - 2014.08.07 06:02:00 -
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jenza aranda wrote:TL:DR version:
I had a big WoW guild so you know my e-peen is big, you should listen to me.
Quit WoW because of kids, played eve, did eve stuff.
Bought a PS3 for dust, started big corp in eve, more e-peen, fanboy'd, lamented at lack of connectivity, eve players did eve stuff, dust players did PC and stuff. Taxes started ******* things up.
People started to get pissed, eve guys did more eve stuff dust guys did sod all.
Corp now spilt into dust stuff and eve stuff, some stuff about not wanting to play Valk, plenty of QQ.
You're the hero we need and deserve.
Have a pony
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Mobius Kaethis
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
1708
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Posted - 2014.08.10 03:09:00 -
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Leither Yiltron wrote:jenza aranda wrote:TL:DR version:
I had a big WoW guild so you know my e-peen is big, you should listen to me.
Quit WoW because of kids, played eve, did eve stuff.
Bought a PS3 for dust, started big corp in eve, more e-peen, fanboy'd, lamented at lack of connectivity, eve players did eve stuff, dust players did PC and stuff. Taxes started ******* things up.
People started to get pissed, eve guys did more eve stuff dust guys did sod all.
Corp now spilt into dust stuff and eve stuff, some stuff about not wanting to play Valk, plenty of QQ. You're the hero we need and deserve.
Deserve for sure need and want are two other matters entirely. Kina of makes me wonder why you stuck with CPM0 if you dislike the other players so much.
Fun > Realism
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