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Mathew LaBorde
The Generals
Anime Empire.
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Posted - 2014.07.29 11:18:00 -
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U should make it to where if u wear a "heavy" suit u can only put an hmg on it. If u want to use a LW, u hwill have to use a commando suit. That devs is what's going to get more people using ur commando suits. Not buffing the heavies. The only thing that needs to happen is give the assaults a buff and the scouts a nerf. There's no reason a scout shout have 800 anything. Even if its proto. ITS A ******* SCOUT FOR CHRIST SAKE! Scouts in rel life have little to no armor so they can move faster. So take down their health and make the faster. Not by too much though. They are pretty fast in now as it is. |
Chunky Munkey
5036
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Posted - 2014.07.29 11:37:00 -
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It takes less than 30 seconds to find this argument presented and its complete rebuttal straight after.
Was it so hard to look?
Destiny won't kill Dust.
CCP already did that.
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
3019
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Posted - 2014.07.29 11:51:00 -
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I find, "o.," and the overuse of, "u," to be even stupider. |
Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
658
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Posted - 2014.07.29 12:18:00 -
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Sir....there is no O. in heavy suits. Nor is there in sentinel, we shall overcome.
Observe the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law.
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Sylwester Dziewiecki
Interregnum.
335
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Posted - 2014.07.29 13:10:00 -
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Mathew LaBorde wrote:U should make it to where if u wear a "heavy" suit u can only put an hmg on it. If u want to use a LW, u hwill have to use a commando suit. That devs is what's going to get more people using ur commando suits. Not nurfing the heavies. The only thing that needs to happen is give the assaults a buff and the scouts a nerf. There's no reason a scout shout have 800 anything. Even if its proto. ITS A ******* SCOUT FOR CHRIST SAKE! Scouts in rel life have little to no armor so they can move faster. So take down their health and make the faster. Not by too much though. They are pretty fast in now as it is.
Look, there is a game called EVE online on market for some time now.. it's similar to DUST somehow.. you can fit stuff there, regardless of whether it is wise or not
Gallente Speed Scout.
EVE side of me: Nosum Hseebnrido
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Mejt0
Made in Poland...
E-R-A
233
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Posted - 2014.07.29 13:12:00 -
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If scout chooses to have 800ehp. Then its slow, visable and crap. Noone runs these.
Heavies nerf will only touch caldaris (minmatars also or no?) in terms of pg/cpu.
Gal and amarr will eqiup almost everything proto (as i heard)
-~-~-Caldari Loyalist-~-~-
Markiplier fan.
Hollywood Undead ,rocks.
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Mathew LaBorde
The Generals
Anime Empire.
57
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Posted - 2014.07.29 13:55:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:I find, "o.," and the overuse of, "u," to be even stupider.
Go **** urself. And all u trolls |
Infine Sentinel
Better Hide R Die
686
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Posted - 2014.07.29 14:05:00 -
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Mathew LaBorde wrote:U should make it to where if u wear a "heavy" suit u can only put an hmg on it. If u want to use a LW, u hwill have to use a commando suit. That devs is what's going to get more people using ur commando suits. Not nurfing the heavies. The only thing that needs to happen is give the assaults a buff and the scouts a nerf. There's no reason a scout shout have 800 anything. Even if its proto. ITS A ******* SCOUT FOR CHRIST SAKE! Scouts in rel life have little to no armor so they can move faster. So take down their health and make the faster. Not by too much though. They are pretty fast in now as it is.
The grammar  I can't take it! 
Pie.
Forum warrior level 231423423
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
1245
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Posted - 2014.07.29 14:09:00 -
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I heard an interesting idea the other night when chatting with corpmates:
Shields and armor should be relative HP off base rather than an absolute value.
This would equalize some of the concerns with Scouts (and to a lesser extent medium suits) dual tanking. |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
15495
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Posted - 2014.07.29 14:31:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:I find, "o.," and the overuse of, "u," to be even stupider.
As much as I agree with your sentiment.. shouldn't it be "even more stupid."? 
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Sgt Buttscratch
R 0 N 1 N
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Posted - 2014.07.29 14:44:00 -
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Heavy "nerf" will be fine, Thales has low equip costs
Give me my scrambler pistol back....**
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RYN0CER0S
Rise Of Old Dudes
685
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Posted - 2014.07.29 14:48:00 -
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People still use Light Weapons on Heavies?
That's kinda dumb.
You get beat with it often enough to justify this thread?
Wow.
Who farted?
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
2274
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Posted - 2014.07.29 15:04:00 -
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Oh hey another crappy FOTM Heavy...
Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Looking closer and I'm fine with the new numbers, it is still better then the old Sent values, and I can finally put to use my HMG Optimization skill again.
The old Amarr Proto Sent once you fit four complex plates, a complex d-mod, and a boundless HMG, only had around four-six PG left for sidearms and grenades even with HMG Opt skill and maxed core skills giving +30% to CPU and PG.
These new values are fine imo.
Maybe these values will chase off some of the FOTM users who were lazy and lacked proper core skills. Though I'll miss mowing down "fake" heavies.
Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Seriously people, I've used heavies since, well, two weeks after they ever existed. These new PG/CPU values are better then they have ever been besides the current iteration which is a bit nuts. The instant they changed them to what we have now after 1.7 I knew someone was going to get nerfed, the current values are just too high.
HFC won't "break" heavies, it will put them properly in line with the rest of the suits.
Currently heavies don't have to think to fit crap on a suit, and what you can fit on a basic frame is ridiculous.
But hey, that's just, like, my opinion... man.
Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:Reign Omega wrote:So 100 CPU, and 30 PG give or take? Seems like a lot tbh, but I won't know for sure for 2 weeks It's back to the normal old levels, maybe a smidge higher. With maxed core we're talking about 69 PG, and if you're a relic with some points in HMG Optz then you'll likely only have to downgrade your sidearm and nades which are pretty minor, all things considered.
Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:FOTM heavies are the ones bitching, us relics (True Heavies to use some wonderful "Elitist" speak ^^ )are noticing that these "new" values are about the same/smidgen higher then the old Sentinel values, and those were perfectly fine.
And hell, I'll finaly be able to use my optimization skills again.
If people are REALLY complaining that their fully prototype heavy is going to have to downgrade the grenades and sidearm to basic/adv while leaving everything else at proto, then they are just terrible players to begin with.
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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MythTanker
Haus of Triage
169
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Posted - 2014.07.29 15:55:00 -
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Mathew LaBorde wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:I find, "o.," and the overuse of, "u," to be even stupider. Go **** urself. And all u trolls
You brought this on yourself with the lack of intelligence in your QQ
The object of war is not to die for your country, but to make the other bastard die for his -George S. Patton
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
11384
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Posted - 2014.07.29 15:57:00 -
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I rather a heavy with a light weapon than an HMG tbh.
If I catch them by surprise I have a chance, as they don't insta gib me.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Breakin Stuff
Goonfeet
Special Planetary Emergency Response Group
1692
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Posted - 2014.07.29 16:09:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:I rather a heavy with a light weapon than an HMG tbh.
If I catch them by surprise I have a chance, as they don't insta gib me.
Heavies have a strict code of skinning cats rapidly and humanely. |
taxi bastard
jihad taxi co.
161
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Posted - 2014.07.29 17:16:00 -
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Mathew LaBorde wrote:U should make it to where if u wear a "heavy" suit u can only put an hmg on it. If u want to use a LW, u hwill have to use a commando suit. That devs is what's going to get more people using ur commando suits. Not nurfing the heavies. The only thing that needs to happen is give the assaults a buff and the scouts a nerf. There's no reason a scout shout have 800 anything. Even if its proto. ITS A ******* SCOUT FOR CHRIST SAKE! Scouts in rel life have little to no armor so they can move faster. So take down their health and make the faster. Not by too much though. They are pretty fast in now as it is.
at proto level my scout runs less EHP on its tanked fit than my basic minmitar assault frame. i could make it have alittle more EHP than the basic assault but it would be the most stupid thing to do |
Mathew LaBorde
The Generals
Anime Empire.
57
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Posted - 2014.07.29 18:05:00 -
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taxi bastard wrote:Mathew LaBorde wrote:U should make it to where if u wear a "heavy" suit u can only put an hmg on it. If u want to use a LW, u hwill have to use a commando suit. That devs is what's going to get more people using ur commando suits. Not nurfing the heavies. The only thing that needs to happen is give the assaults a buff and the scouts a nerf. There's no reason a scout shout have 800 anything. Even if its proto. ITS A ******* SCOUT FOR CHRIST SAKE! Scouts in rel life have little to no armor so they can move faster. So take down their health and make the faster. Not by too much though. They are pretty fast in now as it is. at proto level my scout runs less EHP on its tanked fit than my basic minmitar assault frame. i could make it have alittle more EHP than the basic assault but it would be the most stupid thing to do
My scout can have 774 ehp. More if I skilled up all the way. |
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