DUST Search - Character Recycling Exploit

OZAROW wrote:

Bojo The Mighty wrote:

Temias Mercurial wrote:

It's only 500,000, or 1,000,000 isk if you biomass two alts. You can make that same amount in under an hour... I really don't see the reasoning of referring to it as an exploit. I'm not defending or supporting this 'exploit', but I don't see the point in wasting time on it.

I'm sitting on 65mil earned through playing this game for several months (think a year now...). Someone making a mil every 10 hours is of little concern to most of us...

This one person in my local was bragging that with his 16 PSN alts, (1.5 million per PSN * 15 + 1 mill ) per ten hours, = 23.5 Mill every ten hours.

I bet a big portion of that ISK you have is from Salvage reset.

You get 250 000 isk, I really friggen wish that people in this damn game got their mother funky facts right before they made whinny nerfy threads all over this game, least of all over so bs rest transfer crap that would take the same amount of time to get the same amount of isk doing bush in frontline, bpo,or aurum , suits.

Friggen babies

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Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8917	Posted - 2014.07.26 11:45:00 - [31] - Quote @Happy Violentime Me not playing for the past couple of months has absolutely no bearing on this topic especially if CCP hasn't addressed it so far since I last played which obviously seems to be the case as per CCP Rattati's first reply on my thread. So take your sorry attempt at an ad hominem attack elsewhere. Also, his name is Rattati. He's not named after a dish. On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 8917	Posted - 2014.07.26 11:47:00 - [32] - Quote OZAROW wrote: Bojo The Mighty wrote: Temias Mercurial wrote: It's only 500,000, or 1,000,000 isk if you biomass two alts. You can make that same amount in under an hour... I really don't see the reasoning of referring to it as an exploit. I'm not defending or supporting this 'exploit', but I don't see the point in wasting time on it. I'm sitting on 65mil earned through playing this game for several months (think a year now...). Someone making a mil every 10 hours is of little concern to most of us... This one person in my local was bragging that with his 16 PSN alts, (1.5 million per PSN * 15 + 1 mill ) per ten hours, = 23.5 Mill every ten hours. I bet a big portion of that ISK you have is from Salvage reset. You get 250 000 isk, I really friggen wish that people in this damn game got their mother funky facts right before they made whinny nerfy threads all over this game, least of all over so bs rest transfer crap that would take the same amount of time to get the same amount of isk doing bush in frontline, bpo,or aurum , suits. Friggen babies So the starter ISK has been reduced now? It use to be 500,000 back in April. Or did I misunderstand you? On Twitter: @HilmarVeigar #greenlightlegion #dust514 players are waiting.
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 144	Posted - 2014.07.26 21:51:00 - [33] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Well, one simple idea is to reduce starting ISK and make early skillbooks cheaper. This was brought to my attention very recently and I am not up to speed on available countermeasures, increasing the biomass timer is an obvious simple additional measure. Thanks. yes increase the timer but dont make it reset at downtime as most people could make 1m every downtime from the 2 "ISK clones" or 2 mill if they havnt done it in a while and do it before downtime, set biomass, wait till after DT and no need to wait as they have been biomassed and roll in the isk again.. its stupid i would say 24 hours real time (maybe tied to skill queue progression so it dosnt reset at downtime) Minmatar Logibro in training. Rusty needles anyone? No Mic and no time for "Squeekers" Nerf scout cloak+shotgun
B-F M Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 32	Posted - 2014.07.27 01:45:00 - [34] - Quote CCP Rattati wrote: Well, one simple idea is to reduce starting ISK and make early skillbooks cheaper. This was brought to my attention very recently and I am not up to speed on available countermeasures, increasing the biomass timer is an obvious simple additional measure. Thanks. I would also look at why people feel the need to do this sort of thing. In some cases it'll be excessive greed, (i.e., dude with 16 PSN accounts is ridiculous), but I think that in a lot of cases, players are finding it hard to go overall ISK positive when running advanced gear (with maybe 1-3 proto modules), because some roles are more death-prone and cost more to run, and some games you just get stomped by protos, which can cost over a mil in damages easy. I don't see 'just run militia' as being a solution. Yes I get that you save more ISK, but it's not fun if you play a role that is not available or viable at militia/bpo level (commando, scout, logi). it seems like odd game design to say 'here are all these cool and interesting fits - now go run this mediocre one for ages to be able to afford them'. The other issue I have with this is that I like to contribute to my team as much as I can. If I'm running a militia fit I'm nowhere near as effective - which leads to my teammates dying more frequently (so now I've cost my teammates ISK to save my own). If I normally could take out a tank with my adv/proto swarms but use a militia instead, I will not destroy that vehicle, that vehicle can now go on to destroy my team. My solution would be to increase ISK earned in pubs for people with non-zero WP (or WP over a certain threshold), and almost no ISK reward for non-contributors (specifically AFK farmers). As a side-note, I think the issue of AFK farming is a much more serious issue because it actually damages the play experience (see: Oceanic - which is the default for all Australian, NZ players until they learn to switch btw). Ghosts of Dawn // now recruiting.
OP FOTM Commando Perkone Caldari State 178	Posted - 2014.07.27 02:07:00 - [35] - Quote I don't really see this as a huge problem. If people want to no-life it for some ISK... that's their problem not mine CCP, I thought I was going to start liking you again. I really did. Then you announced this event.
Temias Mercurial Knights Of Ender RISE of LEGION 133	Posted - 2014.07.27 02:22:00 - [36] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: CCP Rattati wrote: Well, one simple idea is to reduce starting ISK and make early skillbooks cheaper. This was brought to my attention very recently and I am not up to speed on available countermeasures, increasing the biomass timer is an obvious simple additional measure. Thanks. yes increase the timer but dont make it reset at downtime as most people could make 1m every downtime from the 2 "ISK clones" or 2 mill if they havnt done it in a while and do it before downtime, set biomass, wait till after DT and no need to wait as they have been biomassed and roll in the isk again.. its stupid i would say 24 hours real time (maybe tied to skill queue progression so it dosnt reset at downtime) People have suggested that new characters should have to graduate the academy before they are able to transfer their own isk, which works perfectly. Having 16 PSN accounts, logging onto each one, and then playing a match or two would be absolute stupidity for such an endeavor, as you may as well play the game on the single character at that point. My apologies if I come off as an elitist, but I try to view things objectively, logically, and factually.


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