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Abber Dietmart
Vendetta Reactionary Force
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Posted - 2014.07.25 15:45:00 -
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I am wondering if there really is a benefit to using Basic dropsuits over specs like assault or logistics other then cheaper SP cost? Faster reload is nice but is it really worth the SP? |
Zelda Harkinian
Isuuaya Tactical
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.07.25 17:52:00 -
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I've only bothered comparing a few of them. I couldn't see any difference between Caldari Scout and and Caldari Light Frame, but I noticed that Amarr Scout had different shield and armor hp compared to Amarr Light Frame (making the Light Frame easier to build a higher hp "scout").
I wouldn't be surprised if there were other little differences like that with all the suits.
But aside from that, I think the only real benefit would be being able to wear a proto suit with spending considerably less sp. |
One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
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Posted - 2014.07.25 21:08:00 -
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Considering the bonuses tied to suits, I wouldn't think basic frames would be worth it. Example, light frames don't get the cloak bonus. They seem wastes of SP and space, unless you are looking specifically for a challenge.
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Clone D
Grundstein Automation
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Posted - 2014.07.26 17:50:00 -
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I occasionally use basic suits if I am toying around with a build and want to see what gear the suit can handle. Then I take it for a test drive and determine whether or not I want to spec into the expensive specialized (x8) skill. I have found little use for them other than this.
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Atiim
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.08.01 04:05:00 -
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Basic suits require 50% less SP investment than the specialized frames, but otherwise no you'd be better off using the specialized frames.
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Zindorak
1.U.P
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Posted - 2014.08.01 04:19:00 -
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Easy Proto i guess
Master of the Scrambler Pistol. Carthum Assault ScP <3
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Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
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Posted - 2014.08.04 01:36:00 -
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Specialist dropsuits are superior, except the SP cost. Some are more superior than others...but the passive bonuses can make a massive difference in playstyle/survivability etc. They also tend to cost less ISK, for some reason.
Never invest in basic suits beyond level 3, it's just not worth it. And in some instances, even a standard specialised suit will be better than an advanced basic suit.
Knowledge is power
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Apothecary Za'ki
Biomass Positive
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Posted - 2014.08.10 01:26:00 -
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well the standard (L1) assault/logi are only 3000 isk each and that is great cause i think thats only 2x a basic basic suit but you get added bonuses.. my favourite was minmatar logi due to its rep amount, rep range and 3 equipment slots! made for fast WP/SP
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CELESTA AUNGM
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.08.14 18:27:00 -
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Abber Dietmart wrote:I am wondering if there really is a benefit to using Basic dropsuits over specs like assault or logistics other then cheaper SP cost? Faster reload is nice but is it really worth the SP? Especially in the case of the Minmatar dropsuits or Caldari
Hello Abber! As you can see from the "individual" points of view in these posts, the subject of 'Dropsuits' Better-to-Best' is a risky subject. Dust is deliberately set up to LIMIT your progress by attaching ISK price to everything you want, and then creating a battlefield so diverse that you are RISKING whatever gear/dropsuits you decided on still being weak and getting destroyed.
MOST fps games on consoles don't do that. In most fps games, you pick a suit... it is already designed to be great at that Role you've chosen in combat, and the rest of your success is up to you.
Dust DELIBERATELY does it differently: Dust makes its Spec-suits as imperfect and non-role as the Basic-suits. Ignore the spec-names "commando suit", "sentinel suit",... an advance basic suit may the the perfect suit for your behavior in the fight.
If you know your personal playing style, there are a few suits that, when fitted with the modules you need for your playstyle, are the BEST.
Here's what I mean:
I have no use for any specific role or prototype suit. But I know that I am slways a Droship driver, soI will only be groundfighting IF I get shot down. When I do get shot down, I only want to stay alive and walk back to a safe area where I can call in a new dropship and get back in the air again. I need to decide, "when you get shot down, Celesta, to survive do you plan to... (1) Run quickly and dash from cover to cover through even heavily infested enemy?... or (2) Hunker down in a room where it's safe and move only when I feel I there are friendlies nearby I can find protection with?... Yes, I'm a proud COWARD, LOL!
If it's Plan #1, I use a Proto Gallente SCOUT suit. No, I'm not scouting, but the suit's dampening bonuses minimizes my chance of being scanned, and it's sprint bonus keeps me running fast (...the plan is to get caught in only ONE shootout, or even better--no shootoutsat all).
If it's Plan #2, I use an advanced Caldari BASIC suit. No bonuses, but enough slots to stack enough shield/armour and proto weapons to survive MORE than one close-up shootout with enemy who's lucky enough to walk passed the place I'm hiding (...shotgun and Proto Scrambler pistol ready).
Notice, I didn't say I am a "pilot", or my style is "medic", or "I like to support with an HMG". Plan #1 and #2 are my WAY of doing things during the match. Not a "Role" really, like 'being a commando who uses knives', but a WAY of getting through the match like 'I will stay in an LAV as my protection, and when I get out to fight, it will be in tight spaces where I can't retreat, so no need to waste money on fast suits or sheild-bonus suits".
The early dropsuits are cheaper because, hopefully you'll stick with THEM while you're still trying to fully determine YOUR WAY of gameplay. Of course, once you've defined your gameplay "way", and reach for that advanced suit to build for yourself,.... THAT'S when CCP puts the big price tag on the suits you'll be picking,... to increase the RISK factor. This game IS about RISK.
It's like saying, you'd better be right about your personal playstyle, because if you're wrong it's gonna cost you!!
Universe of good wishes for the 49, especially CCP Eterne...
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