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OP FOTM
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.07.25 07:36:00 -
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I was talking to an in-game friend of mine. Basically he told me something I never realized before. When the only scouts were Gallente and Minja, literally no one armor tanked in a Scout. Why? Because both of those scouts got a 5% dampening bonus for a reason. Hiding was difficult before 1.8. If those scouts armor tanked they'd be slaughtered.
When we got the cloak, multiple things happened at once and it was overwhelming. Assaults lost their useful HP-based bonuses and Scouts that weren't Gallente lost their dampening bonuses. The cloak became an infantry slaying tool unrivaled in the entire game... assaults lost their useful bonuses and their new ones just forced them further away from the front line... and the loss of emphasis to dampening on scouts combined with the motive to use the cloak as a slaying tool... all these things combined have ruined the Assault class, and defaced the Scout class.
No one realized how important the Assault class was until it was nerfed into the ground. No one realized they were the backbone of this game. Instead we have scouts and heavies pretending to be the Assaults because they're gone.
CCP, I thought I was going to start liking you again. I really did. Then you announced this event.
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Venerable Phage
Red Shirts Away Team
185
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Posted - 2014.07.25 07:58:00 -
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Wrong my Alt (Vaine Hunter) has been running a tanked gallente scout for eight months.
Most of my fits have had a basic dampener on it as it makes your equivalent class blind to you. The main exception for me is my speed Minja who is just an advanced suit with 2 KinCats.
The cloaks can be devestating if used correctly and if anything cloaks do better with Dampeners as a floating red chevron is a great way to say place bullets in my noggin.
Scouts and heavies are in a good spot as are support logis as they reap repping bonuses and supply from supporting all the needy heavies.
Assaults and snipers need some love that is true.
Armour speed penalty should also apply to dampening too...
Not One Lifetime
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Reign Omega
BurgezzE.T.F
General Tso's Alliance
633
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Posted - 2014.07.25 08:11:00 -
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sniper is not a suit class, it is a weapon that works differently on different suits.
Observe the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law.
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Michael Arck
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Posted - 2014.07.25 08:38:00 -
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The assault class was dead before the inclusion of cloaked scouts. That was a time when we leaving the "slaylogi" era. People didn't pick cloaked scouts to fill in a gap for assaults because of their "weakness". People picked scouts because they wanted cloaks and just played frontline with the role.
Yet outside of forums, people are still playing with assaults and their value is not diminished. The assault class just don't offer an attractive incentive in a world where gamers want certain incentives to play certain aspects of the game so you have fewer playing the role.
Archistrategos
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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RYN0CER0S
Rise Of Old Dudes
621
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Posted - 2014.07.25 08:46:00 -
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Nobody complained about Assaults, ever.
And that is why they were nerfed.
GÿàCCP Logic.
PSN: The_Rynoceros
Console Master Race
"It's better to burn out, than fade away." ~Def Leppard
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OP FOTM
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
173
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Posted - 2014.07.25 10:00:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:The assault class was dead before the inclusion of cloaked scouts. That was a time when we leaving the "slaylogi" era. People didn't pick cloaked scouts to fill in a gap for assaults because of their "weakness". People picked scouts because they wanted cloaks and just played frontline with the role.
Yet outside of forums, people are still playing with assaults and their value is not diminished. The assault class just don't offer an attractive incentive in a world where gamers want certain incentives to play certain aspects of the game so you have fewer playing the role.
Yeah but assault was very popular and actually a viable option back then.
CCP, I thought I was going to start liking you again. I really did. Then you announced this event.
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Michael Arck
4985
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Posted - 2014.07.25 10:16:00 -
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OP FOTM wrote:Michael Arck wrote:The assault class was dead before the inclusion of cloaked scouts. That was a time when we leaving the "slaylogi" era. People didn't pick cloaked scouts to fill in a gap for assaults because of their "weakness". People picked scouts because they wanted cloaks and just played frontline with the role.
Yet outside of forums, people are still playing with assaults and their value is not diminished. The assault class just don't offer an attractive incentive in a world where gamers want certain incentives to play certain aspects of the game so you have fewer playing the role. Yeah but assault was very popular and actually a viable option back then.
Didn't assaults have the shield extender bonus then? Then I remember CCP wanting to lower the TTK. I could be wrong but they also tinkered with the assault so that brick tanking on a assault couldn't be possible. Assaults were getting their butts handed to them to more shield eating weapons such as LR and SCR, more so SCR, since they could kill you so fast with that low TTK.
That's when the slaylogi came about. You could gain more WPs and kill like an assault. Plus brick tanking was golden on the slaylogi. It was a double win. But only for a short while though. Good times. I could go logi in a pub match and gain two OBs in a squad by myself.
Archistrategos
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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Happy Violentime
OMFGZOMBIESRUN
732
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Posted - 2014.07.25 11:01:00 -
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'Hiding was difficult before 1.8'
LOL no
I could hide before 1.8 by sticking 2 complex damps on my logi suit.
Rest of you too busy ballerina scanning and following the dots on tacnet to spot the bright yellow dude flanking you. |
JONAHBENHUR
Inner.Hell
32
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Posted - 2014.07.25 12:13:00 -
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dude caldari assault suits have always kinda blown ya just have to be more creative with your module customiations
"To be a man you must have honor, "HONOR AND A PENIS !!" -shinoske noharu
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Scheneighnay McBob
Cult of Gasai
5739
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Posted - 2014.07.25 15:00:00 -
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The whole cloak deal is a joke.
Functionally, they barely improved scouts, it just had a placebo effect causing more people to run scouts thinking cloaks make a difference.
The only difference cloaks made is more mediocre scouts.
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