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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.07.24 20:53:00 -
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Logi's should get their buff but it should not be to survivability or fitting power. Logi need a role bonus change so that every Logi can use the repair tool or shield transporter with increased efficiency and range.
A logi does not need massive amounts of EHP to fulfil its role, I've been one and its overkill. However it does need a reinforcement of its role to ensure players are incentivised to carry out the role role.
Role Bonus: 3-5% increase to Armour and Shield repair rates per level
3-5% increase to Repair Tool Range per level
Racial Suit Bonus:
Amarr- Uplinks Bonus as currently held
Caldari- Increased Nanite Clusters (Need Nanohive that restores shields)
Gallente- Active Scanners Bonus
Minmatar- ?*
* Minmatar is a tough one sinces its bonus originally lent to the Repair tool, a piece of equipment I do not believe should be solely monopolised by one racial group since it applies to all racial groups and their logistical needs. That however leaves the Min Logi in a bind. I would be happy to take suggestions for skills and or suggestions for future equipment items?
Perhaps Min Logi could use Target Painters which would lock and high light individual players or vehicles to the team or increase damage done to the target.
"Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
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True Adamance
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Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
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Posted - 2014.07.24 20:57:00 -
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Pokey Dravon wrote:True Adamance wrote:Logi's should get their buff but it should not be to survivability or fitting power. Logi need a role bonus change so that every Logi can use the repair tool or shield transporter with increased efficiency and range.
A logi does not need massive amounts of EHP to fulfil its role, I've been one and its overkill. However it does need a reinforcement of its role to ensure players are incentivised to carry out the role role.
Role Bonus: 3-5% increase to Armour and Shield repair rates per level
3-5% increase to Repair Tool Range per level
Racial Suit Bonus:
Amarr- Uplinks Bonus as currently held
Caldari- Increased Nanite Clusters (Need Nanohive that restores shields)
Gallente- Active Scanners Bonus
Minmatar- ?*
* Minmatar is a tough one sinces its bonus originally lent to the Repair tool, a piece of equipment I do not believe should be solely monopolised by one racial group since it applies to all racial groups and their logistical needs. That however leaves the Min Logi in a bind. I would be happy to take suggestions for skills and or suggestions for future equipment items?
Perhaps Min Logi could use Target Painters which would lock and high light individual players or vehicles to the team or increase damage done to the target.
Very Similar to something I suggested yesterday, though I think the thread has since been buried haha. Regardless in that proposal I have Minmatar logi a bonus to carry capacity as well as damage of remote explosives and proximity mines, making them more of a Indirect Point-Defense suit, capable of laying minefields against vehicles or locking down choke points with explosives.
Entirely legitimate suggestions..... Min Logi = Repping Mad Bomber?
I suppose the Target Painter was a bit far fetched and falls into EWAR/ Scout not Logi....
"Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.07.24 21:00:00 -
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Not really the opposite...... more like roughly similar with a different focus......
"Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
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True Adamance
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Posted - 2014.07.24 21:47:00 -
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Meee One wrote:True Adamance wrote:Logi's should get their buff but it should not be to survivability or fitting power. Logi need a role bonus change so that every Logi can use the repair tool or shield transporter with increased efficiency and range.
A logi does not need massive amounts of EHP to fulfil its role, I've been one and its overkill. However it does need a reinforcement of its role to ensure players are incentivised to carry out the role role.
Role Bonus: 3-5% increase to Armour and Shield repair rates per level
3-5% increase to Repair Tool Range per level
Racial Suit Bonus:
Amarr- Uplinks Bonus as currently held
Caldari- Increased Nanite Clusters (Need Nanohive that restores shields)
Gallente- Active Scanners Bonus
Minmatar- ?*
* Minmatar is a tough one sinces its bonus originally lent to the Repair tool, a piece of equipment I do not believe should be solely monopolised by one racial group since it applies to all racial groups and their logistical needs. That however leaves the Min Logi in a bind. I would be happy to take suggestions for skills and or suggestions for future equipment items?
Perhaps Min Logi could use Target Painters which would lock and high light individual players or vehicles to the team or increase damage done to the target.
Wow,'just make logis easy to kill screw the 2-3 x the investment'. No,as i have said many times before...everyone would use amarr,sidearm reps and uplinks. It would become the logi god.
A logistics role is primarily support and non combative, having been a Logi for several builds I found that I did not need to stack HP to fulfil my role and could better support my team by focusing on other aspects such as using my module slot to fit a basic tank and couple with with scanning or biotics modules.
Now I would avoid giving any Logi a side arm as they don't need them, especially not the Amarr since I hate this ideal they are the "combat" race.
As for the 2-3x SP investment I wholly understand where you get that notion but I don't see why that should translate to combat efficiency and survivability.
I certainly would like to avoid having one Logi become king of the hill and actively encourage players to use what they like and not what is fotm however EVE as much as Dust there are always going to be set competitive doctrines from the Characal Fleets in Huola to t3 gangs in Null Sec. Competitive players will always pick a strong option however that does not mean Logistics as a role should continue on the path they are now not full filling the logistics role.
That being primarily to provide repairs and support to friendly units, as such I suggested removing the monopolisation the Minmatar have on Rep tools, being a universally used item in favour of giving the Minmatar something they can use in addition to their Rep tool bonus.
"Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
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