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TIMMY DAVIS wrote:

Thanks for the apology, that's not what I was looking for. And I wasn't blaming you for other peoples trolling. When I first joined this game and forum it was not so squad based. They turned it into one. teams need an active scanner, but you only get points if your squad actually kills someone.

I've started games with one fitting and the team was getting smashed. I switch to a proto active scanner fitting and the tide turns, I honestly don't remember if it was a win or lose, but it was a fairer match. I got no extra WP's. What do I get points for with a scanner anyway? yeah a kill here or there, but whatever.

Depending on how it's used the repair tool gets you a lot more WP, but for the match it's less useful than a good scanner.

If I have the ISK I play Ambushes with the proto scanner suit - squad or not. Take one for the team.

I guarantee you there are more lone wolves playing this game then duos / trios etc. CCP needs to understand that and at least give them some chance of success. maybe figure out a way to give scanner uses points for things besides kills.

In the situation I mentioned farther up, three guys were guarding a heavy. I could have emptied my whole clip into the heavy and not killed him. Maybe If I had killed one of the three guardians, but no, I still would have died and one of the guardians would have raised the one I killed. It's a regular situation now 1,2, 3 guards for a heavy and a no win for individual players (squad or no) and a no win for the individuals team.

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TIMMY DAVIS Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 26	Posted - 2014.07.22 00:15:00 - [1] - Quote Is there a limit to the number of repair tools that can be focused on one player? Should there be? Maybe make limits in Ambush and OMS, but not FC's? Is something like that possible? I saw a train of three guys Guarding one heavy. Do all three get points for acting as Guardian? Maybe cut points in half for each additional Guardian kill? so first guy doesn't get 35 (?) points, they both get 17, if a third guy he would only get 17 or better, all three would then get 9. I don't know how the points work in this situation. And for everyone reading this and see's something like this, shoot the guardians first. Thanks for reading this.
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2562	Posted - 2014.07.22 00:22:00 - [2] - Quote No limit to repair tools on a person. No their shouldn't be. No they are doubling OB prices. Oh and BTW I'm repping the other logi while repping the heavy and he's doing the same for me. Tanker/Logi 0 The number of 7ucks given
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 3118	Posted - 2014.07.22 00:24:00 - [3] - Quote If anything, I think we need more repair tools to have more than 1 target at a time. Spider tanking should be a thing. Especially with the amarr. They call me the Monkey - I like to jump off sh** and piss RE's all over your tank! Monkey Mac - Forum Warrior Lvl 3
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 12091	Posted - 2014.07.22 00:27:00 - [4] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: If anything, I think we need more repair tools to have more than 1 target at a time. Spider tanking should be a thing. Especially with the amarr. Guardian Logi Chains bouncing Reps all around the field! "Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
Benjamin Ciscko Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 2562	Posted - 2014.07.22 00:30:00 - [5] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: If anything, I think we need more repair tools to have more than 1 target at a time. Spider tanking should be a thing. Especially with the amarr. Guardian Logi Chains bouncing Reps all around the field! Once I was in a logi chain where each of the three logi's repped the other two logi's and just danced around soaking up damage collecting points. Tanker/Logi 0 The number of 7ucks given
Zindorak 1.U.P 161	Posted - 2014.07.22 00:32:00 - [6] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: If anything, I think we need more repair tools to have more than 1 target at a time. Spider tanking should be a thing. Especially with the amarr. Yes Master of the Scrambler Pistol. Carthum Assault ScP <3
RYN0CER0S Rise Of Old Dudes 592	Posted - 2014.07.22 00:37:00 - [7] - Quote As a Heavy, and a fan of level gameplay, my only issue is 1 Rep Tool being able to support 2 other players - simultaneously. PSN: The_Rynoceros Console Master Race "It's better to burn out, than fade away." ~Def Leppard
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 595	Posted - 2014.07.22 00:44:00 - [8] - Quote I think (Probably not in DUST but maybe Legion) that there should be racial variants of each equipment, specializing in a certain type of performance. Maybe Amarr have dual reps, Gal have Heavy reps, Min have extended reppers and Cal have something else. It doesnt really make sense from a lore standpoint for one race to make all of any sort of equipment because then no other race would have access in a wartime situation. Back on topic: No limit, Shouldnt be a limit, shouldnt cap the points. 6 dudes repping one guy are 6 people not shooting or doing anything else and they are easy targets with the right coordination. Observe the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law.
Crazy Cat Lady Opus Arcana Covert Intervention 191	Posted - 2014.07.22 02:33:00 - [9] - Quote TIMMY DAVIS wrote: Is there a limit to the number of repair tools that can be focused on one player? No, there is no limit. TIMMY DAVIS wrote: I saw a train of three guys Guarding one heavy. Do all three get points for acting as Guardian? Maybe cut points in half for each additional Guardian kill? so first guy doesn't get 35 (?) points, they both get 17, if a third guy he would only get 17 or better, all three would then get 9. I don't know how the points work in this situation. Yes, everyone will get Guardian points at the same WP.
TIMMY DAVIS Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 26	Posted - 2014.07.22 02:47:00 - [10] - Quote Reign Omega wrote: Back on topic: No limit, Shouldnt be a limit, shouldnt cap the points. 6 dudes repping one guy are 6 people not shooting or doing anything else and they are easy targets with the right coordination. Isn't that the answer to like 70% of the questions in this forum, "well if you were just in a squad of five other good players with mics, that's not really a problem. It's you're fault for not having a good set of squad mates."

843-Vika BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 108	Posted - 2014.07.22 02:52:00 - [11] - Quote I watched 3 logis with the rep tools that target 2 people spend a match just rep each other and earn 4 OB just from that
Reign Omega BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 598	Posted - 2014.07.22 02:56:00 - [12] - Quote TIMMY DAVIS wrote: Reign Omega wrote: Back on topic: No limit, Shouldnt be a limit, shouldnt cap the points. 6 dudes repping one guy are 6 people not shooting or doing anything else and they are easy targets with the right coordination. Isn't that the answer to like 70% of the questions in this forum, "well if you were just in a squad of five other good players with mics, that's not really a problem. It's you're fault for not having a good set of squad mates." I apologize if my response seemed that broad, but yeah. This is a very squad/team based game, eventually you will come across situations you absolutely can not tackle solo. However that is the way it should be, You dont always need to have a mic to run with people who are smart enough to lead you through some mess, or follow your lead through it. Doesnt even have to be 6 guys, a good duo or trio can really shake things up if they are all focused on achieving the same objective. May not be what you wanna hear but it kinda is the way the game is set up. Too many people want too many things to handle too many situations and that just isn't the game we're playing. Observe the public trust. Protect the innocent. Uphold the law.
TIMMY DAVIS Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 26	Posted - 2014.07.22 03:34:00 - [13] - Quote Thanks for the apology, that's not what I was looking for. And I wasn't blaming you for other peoples trolling. When I first joined this game and forum it was not so squad based. They turned it into one. teams need an active scanner, but you only get points if your squad actually kills someone. I've started games with one fitting and the team was getting smashed. I switch to a proto active scanner fitting and the tide turns, I honestly don't remember if it was a win or lose, but it was a fairer match. I got no extra WP's. What do I get points for with a scanner anyway? yeah a kill here or there, but whatever. Depending on how it's used the repair tool gets you a lot more WP, but for the match it's less useful than a good scanner. If I have the ISK I play Ambushes with the proto scanner suit - squad or not. Take one for the team. I guarantee you there are more lone wolves playing this game then duos / trios etc. CCP needs to understand that and at least give them some chance of success. maybe figure out a way to give scanner uses points for things besides kills. In the situation I mentioned farther up, three guys were guarding a heavy. I could have emptied my whole clip into the heavy and not killed him. Maybe If I had killed one of the three guardians, but no, I still would have died and one of the guardians would have raised the one I killed. It's a regular situation now 1,2, 3 guards for a heavy and a no win for individual players (squad or no) and a no win for the individuals team.
hold that Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 165	Posted - 2014.07.22 04:32:00 - [14] - Quote TIMMY DAVIS wrote: Thanks for the apology, that's not what I was looking for. And I wasn't blaming you for other peoples trolling. When I first joined this game and forum it was not so squad based. They turned it into one. teams need an active scanner, but you only get points if your squad actually kills someone. I've started games with one fitting and the team was getting smashed. I switch to a proto active scanner fitting and the tide turns, I honestly don't remember if it was a win or lose, but it was a fairer match. I got no extra WP's. What do I get points for with a scanner anyway? yeah a kill here or there, but whatever. Depending on how it's used the repair tool gets you a lot more WP, but for the match it's less useful than a good scanner. If I have the ISK I play Ambushes with the proto scanner suit - squad or not. Take one for the team. I guarantee you there are more lone wolves playing this game then duos / trios etc. CCP needs to understand that and at least give them some chance of success. maybe figure out a way to give scanner uses points for things besides kills. In the situation I mentioned farther up, three guys were guarding a heavy. I could have emptied my whole clip into the heavy and not killed him. Maybe If I had killed one of the three guardians, but no, I still would have died and one of the guardians would have raised the one I killed. It's a regular situation now 1,2, 3 guards for a heavy and a no win for individual players (squad or no) and a no win for the individuals team. if you are running a scanner solo no one sees the scans but you. For other people to see it you have to be in a squad. I mean sometimes i run the scanner solo but only when i'm camping something (crows nest over B for example or table top). But if you got proto scans join a squad you will get a lot more WP using it and be a bit more helpful, no one should really care if you have a mic or not if you doing your job.
Cat Merc Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 11172	Posted - 2014.07.22 04:54:00 - [15] - Quote Oh gawd no. The flux repair tool is bad enough, those things are borderline OP, if not OP. Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC


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