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iKILLu osborne
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
86
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Posted - 2014.07.20 15:46:00 -
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Rules:
so you say cal scout is op and getting the nerf it deserves, to disprove that statement for 2 weeks after charlie i will be running cal scout only(start of match i will be uplinking with a. logi and will get to depot asap to change to cal scout) if i go negative, get under 10 kills,or get under 1200 wp, I owe anybody who messages me in game after match 1m isk, if i deny the claim present me visual proof, if I Ieave the match before it is finished I still owe 1m isk to anybody who makes a claim (I do not play matches that have already started but to prevent my demonstration from being tarnished i will give you 250k isk if you message me after match)
Scoring:
each day i will post on this thread how many matches i won my bet +17 for example, while you the community will post -1 if I lost my bet.If you lie on this thread i will call you out and you will be disqualified for any isk payout,even if your telling the truth the second time.
at the end of the two weeks the score will be tallied and isk paid.
here is a joke, so an amarr scout walks in lol
after charlie it will be"oh shlt a amarr scout walked in"
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Atiim
Fooly Cooly.
Anime Empire.
10743
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Posted - 2014.07.20 16:30:00 -
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How many matches you've won isn't really a basis for determining the balance as an item, as there are several other factors which could have given you a victory, such as:
- Competence of Teammates (or lack thereof)
- Competence of Enemies (or lack thereof)
- Favorable Position (or lack thereof)
- Luck (or lack thereof)
-HAND
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iKILLu osborne
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
86
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Posted - 2014.07.20 16:46:00 -
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Atiim wrote:How many matches you've won isn't really a basis for determining the balance as an item, as there are several other factors which could have given you a victory, such as:
- Competence of Teammates (or lack thereof)
- Competence of Enemies (or lack thereof)
- Favorable Position (or lack thereof)
- Luck (or lack thereof)
-_- i wasn't meaning matches won i said BETS WON as in I don't go negative, I get more than 10 kills , and I get 1200+ wp.
and I forgot to mention I will be running solo not in a squad or qsync so if i 'm placed on a good team yay for teamwork, if placed on bad team so be it, I am confident in my skills as a player and ability to make good fits.
Btw i don't snipe and none of my kills will be vehicle/installations(unless i accidently crush a red dot with ds)
here is a joke, so an amarr scout walks in lol
after charlie it will be"oh shlt a amarr scout walked in"
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Lynn Beck
Fooly Cooly.
Anime Empire.
2068
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Posted - 2014.07.20 16:46:00 -
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Not to mention you could be ridiculoualy rich, and thus 1m isn't a matter, thus you'll purposefully go 1/43 and 'prove' how UP it is.
General John Ripper
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iKILLu osborne
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
86
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Posted - 2014.07.20 16:53:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:Not to mention you could be ridiculoualy rich, and thus 1m isn't a matter, thus you'll purposefully go 1/43 and 'prove' how UP it is.
I am moderately poor, not rich or poor, and the point of this is not to prove it is up, it is to prove that it is the player that makes the suit, not the suit that makes the player
here is a joke, so an amarr scout walks in lol
after charlie it will be"oh shlt a amarr scout walked in"
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Hakyou Brutor
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
917
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Posted - 2014.07.20 16:53:00 -
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Well, if you don't go positive in any suit in a pub you should quit so.... |
iKILLu osborne
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
86
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Posted - 2014.07.20 17:00:00 -
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Hakyou Brutor wrote:Well, if you don't go positive in any suit in a pub you should quit so....
run starter and say that lol. You are right though so a new rule is in order for my bet, if my kdr at the end of each match isn't above 2.0 I owe 1m isk to anyone who mails me.
here is a joke, so an amarr scout walks in lol
after charlie it will be"oh shlt a amarr scout walked in"
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iKILLu osborne
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
86
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Posted - 2014.07.20 17:30:00 -
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any furthur opposition to this bet will be ignored i am providing an opportunity to point your finger and say "you suck get guud" while recieving a small amount of isk for doing so, just for the sake of me having the right to tell anyone else who cries for a nerf to stfu and get guud cause i'm getting sick and tired of seeing "Waaaaaaaaahhh it killed me nerf it" and ccp listening to the qq'ers that can't run with the big dogs
here is a joke, so an amarr scout walks in lol
after charlie it will be"oh shlt a amarr scout walked in"
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Zelda Harkinian
Isuuaya Tactical
Caldari State
132
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Posted - 2014.07.20 18:00:00 -
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iKILLu osborne wrote:Lynn Beck wrote:Not to mention you could be ridiculoualy rich, and thus 1m isn't a matter, thus you'll purposefully go 1/43 and 'prove' how UP it is. I am moderately poor, not rich or poor, and the point of this is not to prove it is up, it is to prove that it is the player that makes the suit, not the suit that makes the player
I thought the point was: "cal scout is op and getting the nerf it deserves" and you were going to disprove that which shows....
what, exactly? That it isn't getting the nerf it deserves?
Besides, not to but a dampner on your challenge, but I can already see some flaws with the way you're going about doing it.
First of all, putting down uplinks at the start of a match ensures that you will be getting a steady stream of WP through out the match, regardless of how you are doing as a Cal Scout.
Second, there are more new players than ever before. If you are a halfway decent player you can get more than 10 kills even with a starter fit.
and third, k/dr is not a good way of determining anything in this game other than your level of slayer-i-ness.
As much as vets hate how the community likes to nerf this, buff that, I do think the community as a whole has a better understanding of what is and isn't balanced. CCP has to walk a thin line of listening to one person with a convincing argument or listening to prevailing patterns of fits people play and what they complain about on the forums.
But yeah, if I see you, I'll definitely send you a message because free isk is free. |
iKILLu osborne
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
89
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Posted - 2014.07.20 23:42:00 -
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no zelda the point i'm trying to prove is no matter how much you nerf something if used by a good player they will still slay you.
i put uplinks down to ensure victory on certain maps such as the king of the hill dom map with the pipes on each end and the objective at the spire. It is called tactics.
I put the limit at 10 kills because i will be running solo and if on the team of those new players or scrub you speak of it is still achievable on my end , and you would be an idiot to say most fights are not one sided.
your absolutely right the ability to slay does not determine a suits worth, however that and shared scans is why this nerf was asked for. sadly people don't realize the amarr will be more versatile cause 4 lows
Yes the voice of the community does have more weight than the voice of 1 player ,however that doesn't give whatever spews out of the community's mouth legitimacy. for example germany in ww2 gave it's people what they wanted more money which led to inflation collapsing their economy
here is a joke, so an amarr scout walks in lol
after charlie it will be"oh shlt a amarr scout walked in"
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Nothing Certain
Bioshock Rejects
979
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Posted - 2014.07.21 02:13:00 -
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I don't understand how your plan proves anything other than you can achieve the stats you posted, it has no relevance to the suit, game balance or the results anyone else will achieve.
At best it will show that the Calscout suit is a viable suit, which I don't think anyone doubts. If you use other suits and make a comparison of stats it might have some purpose but I can't see the point of this.
Because, that's why.
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iKILLu osborne
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
89
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Posted - 2014.07.21 02:33:00 -
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Nothing Certain wrote:I don't understand how your plan proves anything other than you can achieve the stats you posted, it has no relevance to the suit, game balance or the results anyone else will achieve.
At best it will show that the Calscout suit is a viable suit, which I don't think anyone doubts. If you use other suits and make a comparison of stats it might have some purpose but I can't see the point of this.
because i'm one of the more reputable calscouts there is and if a nerf doesn't change my battle results then the nerf wasn't needed and was asked for by qq'rs
here is a joke, so an amarr scout walks in lol
after charlie it will be"oh shlt a amarr scout walked in"
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Michael Arck
4929
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Posted - 2014.07.21 02:45:00 -
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Atiim wrote:How many matches you've won isn't really a basis for determining the balance as an item, as there are several other factors which could have given you a victory, such as:
- Competence of Teammates (or lack thereof)
- Competence of Enemies (or lack thereof)
- Favorable Position (or lack thereof)
- Luck (or lack thereof)
Yet, none of you factor that into the equation when people are posting threads about scores of going 50-0 or so in a match.
Interesting.
Archistrategos
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain
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iKILLu osborne
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
89
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Posted - 2014.07.21 02:48:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Atiim wrote:How many matches you've won isn't really a basis for determining the balance as an item, as there are several other factors which could have given you a victory, such as:
- Competence of Teammates (or lack thereof)
- Competence of Enemies (or lack thereof)
- Favorable Position (or lack thereof)
- Luck (or lack thereof)
Yet, none of you factor that into the equation when people are posting threads about scores of going 50-0 or so in a match. Interesting.
so f'n true 
here is a joke, so an amarr scout walks in lol
after charlie it will be"oh shlt a amarr scout walked in"
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Atiim
Commando Perkone
Caldari State
10771
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Posted - 2014.07.21 04:35:00 -
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iKILLu osborne wrote: so f'n true
Not even close to true.
At least, not in my case.
Once a ScRub, always a sCRub.
-HAND
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The Noob Destroyer
1024
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Posted - 2014.07.21 09:32:00 -
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Michael Arck wrote:Atiim wrote:How many matches you've won isn't really a basis for determining the balance as an item, as there are several other factors which could have given you a victory, such as:
- Competence of Teammates (or lack thereof)
- Competence of Enemies (or lack thereof)
- Favorable Position (or lack thereof)
- Luck (or lack thereof)
Yet, none of you factor that into the equation when people are posting threads about scores of going 50-0 or so in a match. Interesting.
People still posting threads about GJR and his OPness?!?!
Who am I?
I am just a nobody.
Like facts? #GetFact!
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
5020
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Posted - 2014.07.21 10:22:00 -
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I had a 2.5 playing a Minmatar scout, and you're using 2.0 as the bar for the Caldari?!
RIP Stinky Sleeve.
RIP Dust514.
See you on Destiny. PSN: GSDSteVB
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iKILLu osborne
Hellstorm Inc
League of Infamy
93
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Posted - 2014.07.21 14:08:00 -
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Chunky Munkey wrote:I had a 2.5 playing a Minmatar scout, and you're using 2.0 as the bar for the Caldari?!
after charlie and yes cause I am yet to see the scope of all the changes taking place
here is a joke, so an amarr scout walks in lol
after charlie it will be"oh shlt a amarr scout walked in"
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
911
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Posted - 2014.07.21 16:48:00 -
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iKILLu osborne wrote:Rules:
so you say cal scout is op and getting the nerf it deserves, to disprove that statement for 2 weeks after charlie i will be running cal scout only(start of match i will be uplinking with a. logi and will get to depot asap to change to c.scout) if i go under 2.0 kdr, get under 10 kills,or get under 1200 wp, I owe anybody who messages me in game after match 1m isk, if i deny the claim present me visual proof, if I Ieave the match before it is finished I still owe 1m isk to anybody who makes a claim (I do not play matches that have already started but to prevent my demonstration from being tarnished i will give you 250k isk if you message me after match)
Scoring:
each day i will post on this thread how many matches i won my bet +17 for example, while you the community will post -1 if I lost my bet.If you lie on this thread i will call you out and you will be disqualified for any isk payout,even if your telling the truth the second time.
at the end of the two weeks the score will be tallied and isk paid. you just went 3-12 yesterday and charle hasn't even droped. we need a new test subject where is my ISK?
KEQ diplomat/ intel /GC officer
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iKILLu osborne
WarRavens
Final Resolution.
94
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Posted - 2014.07.21 20:23:00 -
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welp cuse your disqualified before the bet even started for lying
here is a joke, so an amarr scout walks in lol
after charlie it will be"oh shlt a amarr scout walked in"
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