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Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
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Posted - 2014.07.19 23:23:00 -
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Opening Statement
Objectives in Skirmish are mundane. Null cannons are the only asset that comes out of objectives. If Skirmish is to be a dynamic game mode some changes really need to occur.
The Null Cannon as is....
Every Null cannon in a skirmish match is functionally equal. Each one puts out a single missile at the same timing intervals. The only value of Null cannons comes from their location. Primarily city Null cannon objectives are prized over outskirt null cannons because they are clustered closer together thus once obtained, easier to defend by using the alternate nearby objectives. Also, because time is a factor, it's easier to hit the objectives in a city consecutively than it is to hit outskirt objectives consecutively. Not really a problem at all merely demonstrating how value is arbitrarily assigned to null cannons.
However what if we were to have a different Dust....
The Picture
I picture a skirmish where there are 10 objectives but only five of them are null cannons. Of the five null cannons two are Mega Nulls, which launch a double missile volley at given intervals. Of the remaining five objectives 2 are MCC resistance amplifiers which harden the MCC. 1 objective is a data cache that pays extra ISK. 2 objectives are MCC Upgrade unlocks and the MCC will move over the battlefield to the objective.
Introducing the Greed Factor
There's not a whole lot of options in Dust. Sure you have a very liberal fitting system but really on the battle what is influential is merely who wins. This really limits your choices and causes everyone to focus on objectives with primary vigor followed by CRUs and lastly supply depots.
There's nothing interesting enough prevalent to split a merc down the middle. I have never found myself asking "Do I want to stuff my wallet for personal gains and put the win at stake or do I want to be a team asset and go for the objective?" There needs to be, basically, ISK caches on field that can persuade mercenaries to put their team at risk for greed. Greed is not prevalent in this game like the original concept insinuated.
This could come in many forms, like objectives I mentioned earlier, or a bounty system, or even adding in game abilities to make money like destroying property.
The difficulties
I don't expect CCP at all to actually deploy such difficult tasks as introducing new types of objectives and new ways to make money as I suggested. What I want to do is point out how objectives and game modes lack flavor and options. All I would like is to see baby steps take place.
Smell the burning flesh. Taste the tangy sulfur air. Volcano Season - Moltar's Haiku : SGC2C
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Midnight Cardinal
Osmon Surveillance
Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.07.20 18:07:00 -
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*Ahem* "Effing Genius!!!"
Your heart pumps faster, you feel the power and energy of pure adrenaline.
You're in my sights, you're gone in a moment.
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Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
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Posted - 2014.07.21 21:42:00 -
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Midnight Cardinal wrote:*Ahem* "Effing Genius!!!"
Your sarcasm is correctly noted
I guess it's a terrible idea
Smell the burning flesh. Taste the tangy sulfur air. Volcano Season - Moltar's Haiku : SGC2C
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One Eyed King
Land of the BIind
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Posted - 2014.07.21 21:46:00 -
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I like it. Anything that adds depth and gives purpose to those that are not just slayers is good with me.
Probably will be just a Legion thing though.
This is how a minja feels
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
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Posted - 2014.07.22 04:36:00 -
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I think its a great idea to diversify the current game types but all of this would probably most certainly take a hefty patch. Which who knows if that will ever be a thing again. But, hopefully something will come of it. I made a suggestion myself for how current mechanics could be altered to change not so much personal greed but the risk vs. reward system to actually be a risk vs. reward system. |
Midnight Cardinal
UNITED MERCINARY AND PILOTS ALLIANCE
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Posted - 2014.07.22 04:43:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Midnight Cardinal wrote:*Ahem* "Effing Genius!!!" Your sarcasm is correctly noted I guess it's a terrible idea
What sarcasm?
This is effing genius.
I was being completely truthful. (Honestly... Wow, no matter how I try, there really isn't a way for me to sound sincere with text chat is there)
Your heart pumps faster, you feel the power and energy of pure adrenaline.
You're in my sights, you're gone in a moment.
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Bojo The Mighty
Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno
4327
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Posted - 2014.07.22 05:18:00 -
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TYCHUS MAXWELL wrote:I think its a great idea to diversify the current game types but all of this would probably most certainly take a hefty patch. Which who knows if that will ever be a thing again. But, hopefully something will come of it. I made a suggestion myself for how current mechanics could be altered to change not so much personal greed but the risk vs. reward system to actually be a risk vs. reward system.
I would say you would probably need to make it to where the MCC missles ignore the resistance or that the resistance can never neutralize damage below one. Otherwise people might just cap the resistance on each team and then kill boost or something. People can do these sorts of things like in Oceanic anyways but now they would be able to do so without having to start multiple matches.
I acknowledge the difficulties in my suggestion thus the bottom part where I acknowledge them
I'm painting a picture and saying "work towards this"
Just as long as the dice keep rollin, the hoes keep hoein, and the money keeps flowin!
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Velociraptor antirrhopus
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.22 06:07:00 -
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Let's be honest here.
We've never blown up more than a handful of MCCs. All we've done in our entire Dust careers was blow up the same MCCs over and over again.
In spite of the skill trees and character roles, Dust is very linear in the sense that you described.
There should be a fully flowing and dynamic battlefield that gives certain players control over the MCC itself, they should add the option of Amarr and Minmatar MCCs, and your team should be able to pick which one they want to use in the battle.
Perhaps there could even be a separate branch in Legion of people who make the big decisions like who will pilot the MCC, who else will be stationed aboard it, or many other things that don't even necessarily have a thing to do with MCCs.
I envision Valkyrie jets soaring over the battlefields
Speak out against the heavy QQ
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TYCHUS MAXWELL
The Fun Police
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Posted - 2014.07.22 08:09:00 -
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Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote:Let's be honest here.
We've never blown up more than a handful of MCCs. All we've done in our entire Dust careers was blow up the same MCCs over and over again.
In spite of the skill trees and character roles, Dust is very linear in the sense that you described.
There should be a fully flowing and dynamic battlefield that gives certain players control over the MCC itself, they should add the option of Amarr and Minmatar MCCs, and your team should be able to pick which one they want to use in the battle.
Perhaps there could even be a separate branch in Legion of people who make the big decisions like who will pilot the MCC, who else will be stationed aboard it, or many other things that don't even necessarily have a thing to do with MCCs.
I envision Valkyrie jets soaring over the battlefields
I wouldn't hold your breath. I will believe that CCP will finish a project outside of Eve when they actually do. At this point, Valkyrie is something to show stockholders and Legion is something to distract from Dust. If they do make Legion (Which is still in limbo last I checked), in comparison to the mess they left Dust in, I doubt it will do too well. People don't learn by osmosis and they never bothered to sort Dust out into a finished product. |
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