DUST Search - An Appeal for re-spec.

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote:

Iron Wolf Saber wrote:

I am not supporting another one so soon. Sorry. They're very hard to fight for and they really do eat up more resources than I like them to and each one delays the next.

I'm sure you will to go along with the slot changes right ???

I know that's more than likely too late to say but that could have been nice to see the changes and players running around trying new things , it would have stopped the instant proclamation of claiming items are OP because most would be enjoying themselves too much to care .

Missed opportunities again to quell the public , satisfy most in the community , make some extra money ... a skill point event after the changes would have been great and generated a buzz in the community but I know nothing .

Sure would have been nice though to have posts telling the truth about the changes and get positive feedback threw the communities " good vibe " , instead of the quick rush to judgment types from the bad vibes in the community after the announcement of rouge's wedding and all but anyway .

Just would have been nice to feel good about what's going on for a change and all .

Wishful thinking .

The slot changes are more going towards undoing all the design mistakes done the first go around. Its a conundrum though but these establishments should have been fixed early on to allow for better future iterations and content to be smoothly implemented in without so much stress in needed a constant manual resource consuming respecs. While this wont be the case in legion it will be the unfortunate case in dust 514 for a long time.

You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.

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The SONNET Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2014.07.18 11:18:00 - [1] - Quote This subject has been quite a common subject personally for me as I've started to take this game a lot more serious. I started playing Dust514 at the start of 2013, though I couldn't come to terms with this game and felt like I didn't really have a chance of playing due to it's difficulty I decided to not play anymore, which led me to uninstall Dust515. I came back to Dust514 at the start of this year, I met all sorts of decent, fake and deceiving people. I have also met some really down to earth people, I've explained my situation about how allocated my years worth of skill points on skill traits that I really regret, for example= Corporation skill ( Don't even ask why ) Vehicle skills ( highly regret ) Few dropsuit command skill Weaponry Skill ( Very pointless as I only use Rr, Sr and Sg ) Dropsuit Upgrades ( Only a few ) I've had the support to go and appeal for a re-spec from friends of Dust514, I wish I had more of an idea to skill into more suitable traits. Because I had the lack of knowledge and idea what to skill into, I want to be able to be given the chance to amend myself, I hope you can understand my situation. Thanks Thesonnet.
Michael Arck 4883	Posted - 2014.07.18 11:29:00 - [2] - Quote They are not doing anymore respecs. Dont be surprised they lock this thread. Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
The SONNET Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2014.07.18 11:47:00 - [3] - Quote I really hope they don't :( It took me a good 30 minutes to open this thread on my phone.
DontChimpOut Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 41	Posted - 2014.07.18 12:05:00 - [4] - Quote The CPM0 failed to secure a full respec. I'll bet they didn't even bring it up to CCP when they were changing around so much of the infantry gear.
Hakyou Brutor D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 900	Posted - 2014.07.18 12:07:00 - [5] - Quote The CPM0 doesn't care about respecs for the same reason CCP doesn't care about them. They don't play the game Sure, they may play one game every few days, but they don't play the game like the average DUST player.
TechMechMeds Techs Laboratory 3918	Posted - 2014.07.18 12:20:00 - [6] - Quote Give us a respec!. Be vigilant!, for there are those that remove the teabag BEFORE adding milk!. This is unacceptable!.
The SONNET Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2014.07.18 12:29:00 - [7] - Quote Guys you're kock blocking me! Haha joke.
Thor Odinson42 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 4046	Posted - 2014.07.18 13:36:00 - [8] - Quote I think our playerbase would be 10x what it is if they'd had some form of respec at each release. If we'd had a person like Rattati balancing things quickly, the FOTM stuff wouldn't have been so much of an issue either. That hardline along with lack of team deploy were two of the biggest mistakes. With such a long skill progression people are more likely to just stop playing. Especially with people who focused on vehicles. I've heard the arguments against it and it still doesn't make sense. Level 4 Forum Warrior Currently on a quest to get all suits to ADV (8 remaining) PSN: wbrom42
Heimdallr69 Nyain San 2819	Posted - 2014.07.18 13:46:00 - [9] - Quote NB4 lock Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Sarus Rambo Direct Action Resources 173	Posted - 2014.07.18 14:06:00 - [10] - Quote Biomass yourself op This sums up 75% of forum posts.

Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Cornballs Get Stonewalled 923	Posted - 2014.07.18 14:08:00 - [11] - Quote I'm for every single refund thread because we should have had one 1.8 and hopefully with the proposals in place for slot changes , we will finally get one . Keep up the faith brother . Full infantry refund is needed if a full refund is not given , it's what should have happened 1.8 . You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Cornballs Get Stonewalled 923	Posted - 2014.07.18 14:12:00 - [12] - Quote Thor Odinson42 wrote: I think our playerbase would enjoy themselves 10x what they are now if they'd had some form of refund . I totally agree Thor . You know Marvel is replacing you with a woman and taking your hammer from you ? Sad days indeed . You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
jonny battles Battlefield Brawlers 5	Posted - 2014.07.18 14:21:00 - [13] - Quote Honestly they should have gave us full respect 1.8 because they messed with the suits equipment and some weapons It was just that easy
Heimdallr69 Nyain San 2820	Posted - 2014.07.18 16:03:00 - [14] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: I think our playerbase would enjoy themselves 10x what they are now if they'd had some form of refund . I totally agree Thor . You know Marvel is replacing you with a woman and taking your hammer from you ? Sad days indeed . Unfortunately that would have allowed everyone to skill fotm I remember our last respec cal logi was OP and I stayed assault with my respec and everyone else went fotm cal logi and it got nerfed and they cried about it for months.. Exactly why there should never be a respec.. Fotm chasers ruined it for everyone. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
The SONNET Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 3	Posted - 2014.07.18 16:56:00 - [15] - Quote Guys don't forget about my reason for a re-spec, I'm not asking for a re-spec for everyone I'm just asking to be able to have a chance to allocate my Sp the way I should of the first time without knowing. X
Jace Silencerwolf Outcasts For Hire 2	Posted - 2014.07.18 17:48:00 - [16] - Quote ccp can not give the corp skill back or corps will be lost. aka disbanded and all their isk gone. but I do think with all the changes it is only fair. they are messing with 70% of the suit. from cpu/pg to slot layout to bonuses. I have 4 proto suits and they all are getting changed to the point the fits i made are not pointless. i picked and looked at them for different reason but after this hotfix i will have to look at all the suits again and most likely have to spec into new suits so not only is my sp wasted (well not long used in those suits) but the isk i spend in any extra suits of them i have. plus vehicles got a full respect on all their stuff why can infantry not get a dropsuit command, dropsuits upgrades and weapons respect?
Heimdallr69 Nyain San 2820	Posted - 2014.07.18 17:51:00 - [17] - Quote Jace Silencerwolf wrote: ccp can not give the corp skill back or corps will be lost. aka disbanded and all their isk gone. but I do think with all the changes it is only fair. they are messing with 70% of the suit. from cpu/pg to slot layout to bonuses. I have 4 proto suits and they all are getting changed to the point the fits i made are not pointless. i picked and looked at them for different reason but after this hotfix i will have to look at all the suits again and most likely have to spec into new suits so not only is my sp wasted (well not long used in those suits) but the isk i spend in any extra suits of them i have. plus vehicles got a full respect on all their stuff why can infantry not get a dropsuit command, dropsuits upgrades and weapons respect? Cuz infantry got it the build before. Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2392	Posted - 2014.07.18 18:53:00 - [18] - Quote Jace Silencerwolf wrote: ccp can not give the corp skill back or corps will be lost. aka disbanded and all their isk gone. Actually that's not true, it'll just prevent the corp from accepting any more applications until that skill is re-trained. Like my ideas? Pokey Dravon for CPM1
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Cornballs Get Stonewalled 926	Posted - 2014.07.18 20:55:00 - [19] - Quote Heimdallr69 wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Thor Odinson42 wrote: I think our playerbase would enjoy themselves 10x what they are now if they'd had some form of refund . I totally agree Thor . You know Marvel is replacing you with a woman and taking your hammer from you ? Sad days indeed . Unfortunately that would have allowed everyone to skill fotm I remember our last respec cal logi was OP and I stayed assault with my respec and everyone else went fotm cal logi and it got nerfed and they cried about it for months.. Exactly why there should never be a respec.. Fotm chasers ruined it for everyone. In all truth , not allowing refunds do not keep people from skilling into " FOTM " nor does it help them to , if there intentions were to skill into them anyway . It was bound to happen and I believe that this is an excuse that most in disagreement with the fact use to justify their opinion . Your not stopping them if that was their intentions any one way or another . I'm glad that they didn't now if their plan was to make such drastic changes as some of the proposals , it should happen then though . That would be nice . You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 15964	Posted - 2014.07.18 21:09:00 - [20] - Quote I am not supporting another one so soon. Sorry. They're very hard to fight for and they really do eat up more resources than I like them to and each one delays the next. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Minmatar Sentinel =// Unlocked

Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Cornballs Get Stonewalled 927	Posted - 2014.07.18 21:10:00 - [21] - Quote The SONNET wrote: Guys don't forget about my reason for a re-spec, I'm not asking for a re-spec for everyone I'm just asking to be able to have a chance to allocate my Sp the way I should of the first time without knowing. X Hey , were all in this together and if WE are allowed a refund ... then you will have what your asking for . Hell , most of us who are asking will . You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Cornballs Get Stonewalled 927	Posted - 2014.07.18 21:25:00 - [22] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I am not supporting another one so soon. Sorry. They're very hard to fight for and they really do eat up more resources than I like them to and each one delays the next. I'm sure you will to go along with the slot changes right ??? I know that's more than likely too late to say but that could have been nice to see the changes and players running around trying new things , it would have stopped the instant proclamation of claiming items are OP because most would be enjoying themselves too much to care . Missed opportunities again to quell the public , satisfy most in the community , make some extra money ... a skill point event after the changes would have been great and generated a buzz in the community but I know nothing . Sure would have been nice though to have posts telling the truth about the changes and get positive feedback threw the communities " good vibe " , instead of the quick rush to judgment types from the bad vibes in the community after the announcement of rouge's wedding and all but anyway . Just would have been nice to feel good about what's going on for a change and all . Wishful thinking . You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 15964	Posted - 2014.07.18 22:08:00 - [23] - Quote Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I am not supporting another one so soon. Sorry. They're very hard to fight for and they really do eat up more resources than I like them to and each one delays the next. I'm sure you will to go along with the slot changes right ??? I know that's more than likely too late to say but that could have been nice to see the changes and players running around trying new things , it would have stopped the instant proclamation of claiming items are OP because most would be enjoying themselves too much to care . Missed opportunities again to quell the public , satisfy most in the community , make some extra money ... a skill point event after the changes would have been great and generated a buzz in the community but I know nothing . Sure would have been nice though to have posts telling the truth about the changes and get positive feedback threw the communities " good vibe " , instead of the quick rush to judgment types from the bad vibes in the community after the announcement of rouge's wedding and all but anyway . Just would have been nice to feel good about what's going on for a change and all . Wishful thinking . The slot changes are more going towards undoing all the design mistakes done the first go around. Its a conundrum though but these establishments should have been fixed early on to allow for better future iterations and content to be smoothly implemented in without so much stress in needed a constant manual resource consuming respecs. While this wont be the case in legion it will be the unfortunate case in dust 514 for a long time. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Minmatar Sentinel =// Unlocked
Joel II X Dah Gods O Bacon 2702	Posted - 2014.07.18 22:51:00 - [24] - Quote Back when I had constant 32 player matches no matter what time of day, I might've said yes, but right now, it doesn't even matter.
abdullah muzaffar Immortal Guides 7	Posted - 2014.07.18 22:58:00 - [25] - Quote Yeah I really want a respec, skilled into corp skills, thinking it would affect my chances of being introduced in a new corp, and I even thought tin the beggining that nova knives were hmgs that threw knives at 2400rpm, and I am completely crap at rr, turns out I got killed by them because of aa, they don't work jack with a mouse
Pokey Dravon OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 2413	Posted - 2014.07.18 23:04:00 - [26] - Quote I don't understand the mentality that you can't try new things without a respec. I don't know about you but when I want to try something new I just grind out some matches for extra SP and start skilling into it. **, when characters get transferred over to Legion we'll be liquidating all of our SP anyways so who gives a ? I'm just ***** around and trying out random stuff with the SP I'm earning each day, not getting upset because I can't liquidate it all and go full proto into something else. Like my ideas? Pokey Dravon for CPM1
Michael Arck 4890	Posted - 2014.07.18 23:15:00 - [27] - Quote Not that I wish it so, but I'm surprised they didn't lock this thread yet. Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Cornballs Get Stonewalled 927	Posted - 2014.07.19 00:26:00 - [28] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui wrote: Iron Wolf Saber wrote: I am not supporting another one so soon. Sorry. They're very hard to fight for and they really do eat up more resources than I like them to and each one delays the next. I'm sure you will to go along with the slot changes right ??? I know that's more than likely too late to say but that could have been nice to see the changes and players running around trying new things , it would have stopped the instant proclamation of claiming items are OP because most would be enjoying themselves too much to care . Missed opportunities again to quell the public , satisfy most in the community , make some extra money ... a skill point event after the changes would have been great and generated a buzz in the community but I know nothing . Sure would have been nice though to have posts telling the truth about the changes and get positive feedback threw the communities " good vibe " , instead of the quick rush to judgment types from the bad vibes in the community after the announcement of rouge's wedding and all but anyway . Just would have been nice to feel good about what's going on for a change and all . Wishful thinking . The slot changes are more going towards undoing all the design mistakes done the first go around. Its a conundrum though but these establishments should have been fixed early on to allow for better future iterations and content to be smoothly implemented in without so much stress in needed a constant manual resource consuming respecs. While this wont be the case in legion it will be the unfortunate case in dust 514 for a long time. Like I said , " Wishful thinking " . You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
Shinobi MumyoSakanagare ZaShigurui Cornballs Get Stonewalled 927	Posted - 2014.07.19 00:29:00 - [29] - Quote abdullah muzaffar wrote: Yeah I really want a respec, skilled into corp skills, thinking it would affect my chances of being introduced in a new corp, and I even thought tin the beggining that nova knives were hmgs that threw knives at 2400rpm, and I am completely crap at rr, turns out I got killed by them because of aa, they don't work jack with a mouse Dust university always except aps . Your experience doesn't sound too good . You would think that CCP would have given the infantry refund that should have been in 1.8.
BlazeXYZ xCosmic Voidx Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive 47	Posted - 2014.07.19 00:56:00 - [30] - Quote The SONNET wrote: This subject has been quite a common subject personally for me as I've started to take this game a lot more serious. I started playing Dust514 at the start of 2013, though I couldn't come to terms with this game and felt like I didn't really have a chance of playing due to it's difficulty I decided to not play anymore, which led me to uninstall Dust515. I came back to Dust514 at the start of this year, I met all sorts of decent, fake and deceiving people. I have also met some really down to earth people, I've explained my situation about how allocated my years worth of skill points on skill traits that I really regret, for example= Corporation skill ( Don't even ask why ) Vehicle skills ( highly regret ) Few dropsuit command skill Weaponry Skill ( Very pointless as I only use Rr, Sr and Sg ) Dropsuit Upgrades ( Only a few ) I've had the support to go and appeal for a re-spec from friends of Dust514, I wish I had more of an idea to skill into more suitable traits. Because I had the lack of knowledge and idea what to skill into, I want to be able to be given the chance to amend myself, I hope you can understand my situation. Thanks Thesonnet. I'v asked the same since I stopped buying booosters. Now it takes so long to get what you really want. Forget prototype, at least getting a suit at advance is really hard. I wish we had a refund system The Blazing Intellect Machine

Michael Arck 4890	Posted - 2014.07.19 01:33:00 - [31] - Quote Really? Getting a suit to advanced was never difficult to me. Now getting to prototype for 1.9 mil SP is a different story. Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1549	Posted - 2014.07.19 01:37:00 - [32] - Quote Marcus voice: NO RESPECS!! "Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms. Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand


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