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PANDA UZIMAKI
Molon Labe.
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.17 21:19:00 -
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The armor based race. will no longer have the most armor out of all the heavys... why? I mean don't get me wrong im a ammar seny myself but why though. Why have the lazer boys all of a sudden become masters of armor composition? XD if that's what you call it. I think its a stupid idea personally but do what you want I guess I have a reason to get my proto ammar senty now. |
Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
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Posted - 2014.07.17 21:23:00 -
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PANDA UZIMAKI wrote:The armor based race. will no longer have the most armor out of all the heavys... why? I mean don't get me wrong im a ammar seny myself but why though. Why have the lazer boys all of a sudden become masters of armor composition? XD if that's what you call it. I think its a stupid idea personally but do what you want I guess I have a reason to get my proto ammar senty now.
Because the Gallante aren't meant to be armour buffer tankers, that's the Amarr's field.
Gallante are Armour Rep Tankers, they rely on heavy reps a d damage mods.
Caldari - Shield Buffer Tankers
Amarr - Armour Buffer Tankers
Gallante - Armour Rep Tankers
Minmatar - Shield Rep Tankers
Fits more into EvE lore.
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Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
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Posted - 2014.07.17 21:26:00 -
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The Caldari though have the best shield buffer and rep, even with the new layouts.
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
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Posted - 2014.07.17 21:32:00 -
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Xocoyol Zaraoul wrote:The Caldari though have the best shield buffer and rep, even with the new layouts.
Base yeah, but the minmatar will reach much lower levels of regulation because they have a greater number of low slots.
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ZDub 303
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.07.17 22:59:00 -
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In EVE: Online, Minmatar are speed tankers, which is not mutually inclusive to shield regeneration. In EVE, Minmatar ships can generally either shield or armor tank.
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Seymour KrelbornX
Holdfast Syndicate
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.17 23:03:00 -
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PANDA UZIMAKI wrote:The armor based race. will no longer have the most armor out of all the heavys... why? I mean don't get me wrong im a ammar seny myself but why though. Why have the lazer boys all of a sudden become masters of armor composition? XD if that's what you call it. I think its a stupid idea personally but do what you want I guess I have a reason to get my proto ammar senty now.
it isn't all of a sudden... lore wise, the amar have always been passive tankers, meaning they use plates, and have the most natural armor
the gallente are traditionally active tankers meaning reppers and fast regen.
so they are finally bringing the races closer to their strengths from a lore perspective.
wont make them any less formidable though... |
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Posted - 2014.07.17 23:07:00 -
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PANDA UZIMAKI wrote:The armor based race. will no longer have the most armor out of all the heavys... why? I mean don't get me wrong im a ammar seny myself but why though. Why have the lazer boys all of a sudden become masters of armor composition? XD if that's what you call it. I think its a stupid idea personally but do what you want I guess I have a reason to get my proto ammar senty now.
gallente is an armor rep based race, amarr is an armor stacking/passive armor tanking race, so the armor race is going to have the most armor finally |
MINA Longstrike
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Posted - 2014.07.17 23:08:00 -
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ZDub 303 wrote:In EVE: Online, Minmatar are speed tankers, which is not mutually inclusive to shield regeneration. In EVE, Minmatar ships can generally either shield or armor tank.
No, they're not. They are usually the *fastest* but that doesn't inherently make them speed tankers, they have a lot of variety in their fitting capabilities and when they do have an outright bonus to tank it is to shield boosting amount (7.5% per level). There are quite a few amarr ships that outrun minmatar ships due to amarr being able to better handle additional mass from more armor plates.
Some minmatar ships armor tank, others shield buffer, some prefer speed above all else but whenever there is an actual tank bonus present it is to shield booster boost amount.
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Monkey MAC
Rough Riders..
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Posted - 2014.07.17 23:18:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:In EVE: Online, Minmatar are speed tankers, which is not mutually inclusive to shield regeneration. In EVE, Minmatar ships can generally either shield or armor tank. No, they're not. They are usually the *fastest* but that doesn't inherently make them speed tankers, they have a lot of variety in their fitting capabilities and when they do have an outright bonus to tank it is to shield boosting amount (7.5% per level). There are quite a few amarr ships that outrun minmatar ships due to amarr being able to better handle additional mass from more armor plates. Some minmatar ships armor tank, others shield buffer, some prefer speed above all else but whenever there is an actual tank bonus present it is to shield booster boost amount. When the caldari have a tank bonus it's a 4% bonus per level to shield resistances. This makes them one of the best passive tankers and really easy to use in shield sniper fleets where they're not trying to provide localized reps. When the amarr have a tank bonus its a 4% bonus per level to armor resistances. This makes them the best armor buffer tanks and really easy to use in armor fleets (frequently as snipers, though sometimes as brawlers) due to reps coming from other sources. When the gallente have a tank bonus its a 7.5% bonus per level to armor repairer rep amount. This makes them pretty decent brawlers as they pull back a lot of hp per armor repper cycle. When the minmatar have a tank bonus its 7.5% bonus per level to shield booster boost amount. This makes them *amazing* shield brawlers/skirmishers, I have literally seen a hurricane press a button and get back over 50% of its hp.
Exactly what I said, just with more EvE knowledgeable reference. 
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ZDub 303
Escrow Removal and Acquisition
Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.07.17 23:20:00 -
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MINA Longstrike wrote:ZDub 303 wrote:In EVE: Online, Minmatar are speed tankers, which is not mutually inclusive to shield regeneration. In EVE, Minmatar ships can generally either shield or armor tank. No, they're not. They are usually the *fastest* but that doesn't inherently make them speed tankers, they have a lot of variety in their fitting capabilities and when they do have an outright bonus to tank it is to shield boosting amount (7.5% per level). There are quite a few amarr ships that outrun minmatar ships due to amarr being able to better handle additional mass from more armor plates. Some minmatar ships armor tank, others shield buffer, some prefer speed above all else but whenever there is an actual tank bonus present it is to shield booster boost amount. When the caldari have a tank bonus it's a 4% bonus per level to shield resistances. This makes them one of the best passive tankers and really easy to use in shield sniper fleets where they're not trying to provide localized reps. When the amarr have a tank bonus its a 4% bonus per level to armor resistances. This makes them the best armor buffer tanks and really easy to use in armor fleets (frequently as snipers, though sometimes as brawlers) due to reps coming from other sources. When the gallente have a tank bonus its a 7.5% bonus per level to armor repairer rep amount. This makes them pretty decent brawlers as they pull back a lot of hp per armor repper cycle. When the minmatar have a tank bonus its 7.5% bonus per level to shield booster boost amount. This makes them *amazing* shield brawlers/skirmishers, I have literally seen a hurricane press a button and get back over 50% of its hp.
Ah, yes i'm not as well versed in eve and I am in Dust so I don't know all of the intricacies to ship fits. However, I think we can all agree (and have been proposing for a long time) that these kinds of role definitions really need to come to Dust/Legion or balance will never really be achieved between racial suits.
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