this has been one of the most noob friendly communities i've encountered. and i dont say this as a sarcastic troll this time. if you dont believe me check out GTAO forums it's 12 and 13 year olds insulting each other and not in any kind of creative way. as far as dust goes we're hella cool to new players yea we might add a sarcastic bite to some noob complaining or calling nerf but if he just wants to learn the game and can communicate he gets bombarded by insightful replies in a couple of hours

Lets see, the Gameplay... no, The dev's speed... no, The Community... I think we might have snagged the big fish right there, seriously the community is what makes this game CCP, the community is what makes EVE, EVE and DUST are People games, and sometimes those people do things in spaceships or dropsuits, but it's the Meta that's why EVE is like it is that's why DUST is as it is.

If you ignore what makes people like it you're going to have terrible retention, get people in the community and interacting and you will get people to stay and enjoy the game, or just keep doing petty little things, throw newbs in a chat channel or two if possible for them to get help and for them to get recruited, If you want a player to stay you need to make them want to stay, teach people how to interact and you will get more bang for your buck than if you teach people how to play

People who Interact are those who can actually figure out how to alter existing mechanics to innovate and create solutions to unique problems for example the lack of a 1v1 option Thunderdome was created in response, for the lack of a Portuguese section a person went out of their way and translated, for the lack of a ISK transfer people set up their own, the countless lotteries, Jadek's Nuttiness with Xer but many of these sort of things would not be availible if not for tools provided, PC, ISK transferring, Corp Taxes but think what could be done with more things even though I doubt we would get much even the littlest bit counts.

Still this does not lessen the need for balancing passes nor basic content that has not yet been provided, for that is why what community that was created has now been put into it's current state of disrepair that we are currently in, and will continue to do so, but you do need to remeber this if Legion is greenlit, because if you repeat these same mistakes, you will get the same results no matter what platform it is on.

Still I doubt this will make it through anyone's thick head and will be ignored by devs as people will always hear selectively. So GD, go nuts...

I don't think community is the real X-Factor though it may be for some, just as a counter argument I play this game pretty much solo, because I get tired of bong rips and people using comms for everything but playing the game.

Yeah but ironically in grand theft auto the other guys aren't running around with 3 times the ehp that will take you a literal Months/Years/skill cap amount of time to catch up to them. Not saying the community is as toxic as many, it's definitely not but it's also not much for good sportsmanship. We don't have good matchmaking but we could self regulate. IE, don't pull out adv/proto on the newberries but man children have to spam 200k loadouts athe newberries chasing them off from the game. But hey, at least they feel welcome on the forums!!

Battlefield 1943.

You'll thank me.

Seriously.

There is a point here, that I think covers both DUST and EVE. CCP has focused on making EVE a better spaceship game, and DUST a better shooting game. But EVE is a bad spaceship game and DUST is a bad shooting game. But what they both are, are good people games. They let people be who they would be in a magnified sense without laws. They let us play politician, soldier, and thief. Renegade and pirate.

CCP needs to stop focusing on making spaceship and shooting games, and focus on making people games. That's what they're the best at.

It's not the gameplay.
It's not the level of gameplay.
It's not the maps.
It's not the modes.
It's not "the (laughable) connection" to Eve.
It's not the customization.
It's not the persistence we were sold for so many months.

Fair point, put in the big hoopla about balancing and content being important at the end.

Content? Point taken.

Balance? I've yet to play a really well balanced FPS, particularly after a year or two. Have you?