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TH1EFOFSOuLS
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.07.16 16:56:00 -
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ncw8C__FGZM |
Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.16 17:18:00 -
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Huh?
You played Min Scout, and pretty poorly at that.
I did see you exhibit pretty poor gun game early on (and, frankly, throughout the entire video) missing what looked like a cal scout running in a straight line, begging to be killed. I also saw you get wasted pretty quickly by a cal scout with a much better gun game than you -- which is as it should be, to be frank.
I saw absolutely nothing crying for a nerf to the cal scout.
I did listen to it mostly with audio off. Did I miss a point you were trying to make? |
843-Vika
BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.16 17:19:00 -
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That vid shows absolutly nothing as per why cal scouts need to be nerfed.....all it showed was a guy run around with a cloak and get 1 kill and die 1 time, he hacked a couple things but did nothing that was broken or OP at all. In fact he ran like a coward as soon as some one saw him after he was scanned. |
aaaasdff ertgfdd
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Posted - 2014.07.16 17:22:00 -
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TH1EFOFSOuLS wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ncw8C__FGZM 1st of all you lag,, secondly thats not slaying, thirdly your aim with a combat rifle is horrible.
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skippy678
the.R3D.kings
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Posted - 2014.07.16 17:39:00 -
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TH1EFOFSOuLS wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ncw8C__FGZM
You shouldnt waste peoples time dude. And honestly Im a Youtuber and understand what you were trying to do here. But I should tell you that attrating views from people who just turn it off right away wont get you what your looking for.
Youtube tip #1 from skippy- Actually make a good video-espeacially if your gonna put it into a forum !
So here Ill help you out so people dont waste their time here
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Joe Macro
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.16 17:44:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:Huh?
You played Min Scout, and pretty poorly at that.
I did see you exhibit pretty poor gun game early on (and, frankly, throughout the entire video) missing what looked like a cal scout running in a straight line, begging to be killed. I also saw you get wasted pretty quickly by a cal scout with a much better gun game than you -- which is as it should be, after all, you had less than 400hp and barely scratched him before you died. The only kills you got were early on against a heavy that someone else was helping kill, and later with stationary targets or targets coming directly at you -- about as easy as they get.
I saw absolutely nothing crying for a nerf to the cal scout.
I did listen to it mostly with audio off. Did I miss a point you were trying to make? Did you link the wrong video?
Agreed....if you were trying to make a case against Cal Scouts, that was not a good example. Sorry |
Jack 3enimble
Vengeance Unbound Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.07.16 17:56:00 -
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Panda, you're back? |
TH1EFOFSOuLS
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.07.16 18:53:00 -
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skippy678 wrote:TH1EFOFSOuLS wrote:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ncw8C__FGZM You shouldnt waste peoples time dude. And honestly Im a Youtuber and understand what you were trying to do here. But I should tell you that attrating views from people who just turn it off right away wont get you what your looking for. Youtube tip #1 from skippy- Actually make a good video-espeacially if your gonna put it into a forum ! So here Ill help you out so people dont waste their time here 4 MAN SQUAD =14K WP W/SHAYZ,RATEDRRV7 AND AXIDENT33GET GOOD @ Youtube and DUST Love, Skippy
Thanks for the positive motivation all might forum vet! ill try my best to get to all worthy god mode as you are your holiness of all **** buckets! :) If it isn't to big of a request of his majestic thumbs to tell me if this is of "good dust player" status or not?
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ZDub 303
Escrow Removal and Acquisition Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.07.16 19:05:00 -
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Made sure to give the video a thumbs down for wasting everyone's time.
12 straight minutes of someone who just sits around cloaked and doing nothing of substance.
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.16 19:15:00 -
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Booooooo-urns. |
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hfderrtgvcd
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.16 19:20:00 -
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Go to 1:41 and change video speed to one fourth. The last burst he fires it looks like he hits the scout and you see a blue flash, but the death screen shows that no damage was taken. I might be mistaken but it certainly looks like he hit and no damage was done. |
Crimson ShieId
Psygod9
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Posted - 2014.07.16 19:32:00 -
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You, uh... really should have gotten a recording of a halfway decent scout. That Glay Fox guy wasn't really doing all that good, not bad, mind you, but certainly not good considering his suit and team. I can grab scores like that almost every game in a Min scout, so it really can't be used to make a case against the Cal scout. Not that they couldn't use a nerf, it's just that the particular video isn't showing anything special on the other side.
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.16 19:43:00 -
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hfderrtgvcd wrote:Go to 1:41 and change video speed to one fourth. The last burst he fires it looks like he hits the scout and you see a blue flash, but the death screen shows that no damage was taken. I might be mistaken but it certainly looks like he hit and no damage was done.
I just did, and I agree with you, he did appear to hit the cal scout. But here's the thing...before the kill screen it shows he was hit and his shields went down a touch...please take another look and pay particular attention to his HP bars -- they clearly go down, and I suspect Glay was running a bit more than the 235 shields he finished the fight with.
On a related note, Glay Fox is a pretty decent scout, but had he been really good, the OP would have been dead after his first volley -- he had no idea he was there (despite him being right there visible before being run past) and Glay had the OP dead to rights....he just couldn't keep a bead on him initially, and finished him off a second or so later.
And if he had that much trouble with a 500 or so HP cal scout, he really would have had trouble with a 700 hp gal scout with a CR much less a shotgun. |
Malkai Inos
Any Given Day
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Posted - 2014.07.16 19:56:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:hfderrtgvcd wrote:Go to 1:41 and change video speed to one fourth. The last burst he fires it looks like he hits the scout and you see a blue flash, but the death screen shows that no damage was taken. I might be mistaken but it certainly looks like he hit and no damage was done. I just did watch it a few more times (although I'm not sure how to get it to go 1/4 speed), and I agree with you, he did appear to hit the cal scout. But here's the thing...before the kill screen it shows he was hit and his shields went down a touch...please take another look and pay particular attention to his HP bars -- they clearly go down, and I suspect Glay was running a bit more than the 235 shields he finished the fight with. Did I miss something? On a related note, Glay Fox is a pretty decent scout, but had he been really good, the OP would have been dead after his first volley -- he had no idea he was there (despite him being right there visible before being run past) and Glay had the OP dead to rights....he just couldn't keep a bead on him initially, and finished him off a second or so later. And if he had that much trouble with a 500 or so HP cal scout, he really would have had trouble with a 700 hp gal scout with a CR much less a shotgun. Let's also keep in mind that the hit flash does not indicate a hit but only that your console thinks it's a hit. If the server deems otherwise then you're SOL.
Never depend on the impact effect to verify a hit. Only enemy health is a reliable indicator because your console does not predict damage/health values.
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hfderrtgvcd
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.16 20:26:00 -
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Malkai Inos wrote:Leadfoot10 wrote:hfderrtgvcd wrote:Go to 1:41 and change video speed to one fourth. The last burst he fires it looks like he hits the scout and you see a blue flash, but the death screen shows that no damage was taken. I might be mistaken but it certainly looks like he hit and no damage was done. I just did watch it a few more times (although I'm not sure how to get it to go 1/4 speed), and I agree with you, he did appear to hit the cal scout. But here's the thing...before the kill screen it shows he was hit and his shields went down a touch...please take another look and pay particular attention to his HP bars -- they clearly go down, and I suspect Glay was running a bit more than the 235 shields he finished the fight with. Did I miss something? On a related note, Glay Fox is a pretty decent scout, but had he been really good, the OP would have been dead after his first volley -- he had no idea he was there (despite him being right there visible before being run past) and Glay had the OP dead to rights....he just couldn't keep a bead on him initially, and finished him off a second or so later. And if he had that much trouble with a 500 or so HP cal scout, he really would have had trouble with a 700 hp gal scout with a CR much less a shotgun. Let's also keep in mind that the hit flash does not indicate a hit but only that your console thinks it's a hit. If the server deems otherwise then you're SOL. Never depend on the impact effect to verify a hit. Only enemy health is a reliable indicator because your console does not predict damage/health values. I checked health before and after the hit, in both cases it was 235 shields. A quick google should show you how to change video speed. If you do it it's very easy to see |
Malkai Inos
Any Given Day
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Posted - 2014.07.16 20:34:00 -
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hfderrtgvcd wrote: I checked health before and after the hit, in both cases it was 235 shields. A quick google should show you how to change video speed. If you do it it's very easy to see
I did see it. I don't know why the bar changes yet the number doesn't and neither was this my point. I was just making a general remark.
You can take a benign object, -you can take a cheeseburger and deconstruct it to its source...
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Leadfoot10
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.16 20:50:00 -
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Now that is quite odd. The bar is saying one thing, but the numbers aren't jiving. Hmmm....
Tell me, how does one arrive at 235 shields? Is it a "natural" number for shield extenders on a cal scout, or is it a number that's only achievable by being hit? Anyone know? I seem to recall a few of my cal scout fits with this number (2x complex shield extenders?), but I'm not sure. |
hfderrtgvcd
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.16 20:57:00 -
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Leadfoot10 wrote:Now that is quite odd. The bar is saying one thing, but the numbers aren't jiving. Hmmm....
Tell me, how does one arrive at 235 shields? Is it a "natural" number for shield extenders on a cal scout, or is it a number that's only achievable by being hit? Anyone know? I seem to recall a few of my cal scout fits with this number (2x complex shield extenders?), but I'm not sure. Its difficult to figure out because we don't know what level his core skills are at and whether he's using aurum shield extenders or he has the operation skill maxed (meaning he gets a 10% bonus to shield extender hp) |
Mikey Ducati
Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:01:00 -
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Uh newsflash. It was due to General Discussions' general population complaining about cal scouts. This has been the case since I became active here. GD cries, CCP wipes away their tears and sings lullabies. |
Guiltless D667
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Posted - 2014.07.16 21:24:00 -
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The Cal scout at the start of the game that killed had no ewar judging from this HP values on a STD suit,if you had actual good Ewar mods you would have known he was there before hand,you just go unluck he saw you first.
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