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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.14 03:35:00 -
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This is a repost:
I wrote:Assaults need a bonus to ganking quickly and regenerating their lower HP pool, commandos to suppressive/long term fire, and rely upon their inherently greater HP pool
Commando-
Role Bonus-5% reload speed per level
A-5% faster cool down on laser weaponry per level, 1% to laser weaponry damage
M-+1 to explosive weaponry clip size per level, 1% to explosive/projectile weaponry damage
C-5% to range and scope zoom with rail weaponry per level, 1% to rail weaponry damage
G-2% to plasma weapon damage/level
Assault-
Role Bonus-+1 armor repair rate per second, +10% shield recharge rate
A-5% reduction to heat build-up laser weaponry
M-5% clip size of projectile weaponry
C-20% reduction to spool time of rail weaponry
G-2% RoF of plasma weaponry
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1323
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Posted - 2014.07.14 03:36:00 -
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Thoughts?
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
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Zindorak
CaUsE-4-CoNcErN
110
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Posted - 2014.07.14 03:40:00 -
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Now hopefully Calassaults will stop complaining. I don't see anything wrong with lowered reload time. They would benifit cuz RR and Magsecs have low clip size. |
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1325
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Posted - 2014.07.14 03:41:00 -
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Zindorak wrote:Now hopefully Calassaults will stop complaining. I don't see anything wrong with lowered reload time. They would benifit cuz RR and Magsecs have low clip size.
Its not reload time, its spool time (i.e. the length of time between holding the trigger and bullets coming out)
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
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Zindorak
CaUsE-4-CoNcErN
110
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Posted - 2014.07.14 03:43:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Zindorak wrote:Now hopefully Calassaults will stop complaining. I don't see anything wrong with lowered reload time. They would benifit cuz RR and Magsecs have low clip size. Its not reload time, its spool time (i.e. the length of time between holding the trigger and bullets coming out)
I know but the current assault has bonus to reload. |
Fizzer94
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
2901
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Posted - 2014.07.14 04:48:00 -
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Charge Sniper Rifle Calassaults.
ISK buyable Thales...
10% seems better.
My best match on Dust, 23/6/4 Placon.
Please unnerf ScPs and fix IoPs...
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Midas Fool
Prophets of the Velocirapture
509
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Posted - 2014.07.14 04:55:00 -
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Dayum 100% spoolup reduction? I'll take it.
I personally like my reload bonus though. I do like those proposed role bonuses though.
ADV/PRO: 'Bishop' AmrLogistics, 'Commissar' CalSentinel, 'Rodelero' AmrScout, 'Legionnaire' CalAssault
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1333
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Posted - 2014.07.14 11:43:00 -
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Fizzer94 wrote:Charge Sniper Rifle Calassaults.
ISK buyable Thales...
10% seems better.
good point...hmm perhaps if it didn't work for sniper rifles?
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1340
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Posted - 2014.07.14 21:42:00 -
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"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
15383
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Posted - 2014.07.14 21:44:00 -
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A total of 100% spool reduction?
Nope.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1340
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Posted - 2014.07.14 21:44:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:A total of 100% spool reduction?
Nope.
what would be more balanced?
IMO i think thats fine for RR's/BP's/magsex
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
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buzzzzzzz killllllllll
Sacred Initiative of Combat Killers
IMMORTAL REGIME
585
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Posted - 2014.07.14 21:45:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Fizzer94 wrote:Charge Sniper Rifle Calassaults.
ISK buyable Thales...
10% seems better. good point...hmm perhaps if it didn't work for sniper rifles?
no charge charge snipers... how about 10-15% per level |
Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
15383
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Posted - 2014.07.14 21:51:00 -
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:A total of 100% spool reduction?
Nope. what would be more balanced? IMO i think thats fine for RR's/BP's/magsex Or how about a 20% reduction to recoil? makes ADS with RR and all those guys really deadly
Do bear in mind that for the bolt pistol that's essentially doubling the fire rate.
Completely removing charge time on RRs/MSMGs is a huge buff as well because then you can burst control them.
A 20% per level reduction to recoil? What is it with wanting to completely remove negative effects?
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1340
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Posted - 2014.07.14 21:54:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote:Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:A total of 100% spool reduction?
Nope. what would be more balanced? IMO i think thats fine for RR's/BP's/magsex Or how about a 20% reduction to recoil? makes ADS with RR and all those guys really deadly Do bear in mind that for the bolt pistol that's essentially doubling the fire rate. Completely removing charge time on RRs/MSMGs is a huge buff as well because then you can burst control them. A 20% per level reduction to recoil? What is it with wanting to completely remove negative effects?
just from my experience with rail weapons, these would help it the most aside front eh commando bonus. (i really don't think that its OP though, it just allows the RR .2 seconds less before you can start firing
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
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Mikey Ducati
Resheph Interstellar Strategy
Gallente Federation
271
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Posted - 2014.07.14 23:18:00 -
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Bad idea. If you do this, then this would be a definite bonus for those very good slayers out there. Then in the future we would be talking about nerfing. I can imagine a reactive plate or another armor repper to speed up their role. Two damage mods, Shield regulator and Enhanced Shield Extender.
That would be one scary assault.
There's nothing wrong with assaults. It's just that people can't take their eyes off of the shiny toys to even give assaults a chance. Play assault, they still do well. Another problem is pub players don't perform their job. So more often than not, I gotta switch to a scout to drop uplinks. Switch to logi to drop repper nanos and heal. And then switch back to assaults to make sure the enemy doesn't distance themselves from us in clones. |
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p
Fatal Absolution
General Tso's Alliance
1346
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Posted - 2014.07.14 23:24:00 -
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Mikey Ducati wrote:Bad idea. If you do this, then this would be a definite bonus for those very good slayers out there. Then in the future we would be talking about nerfing. I can imagine a reactive plate or another armor repper to speed up their role. Two damage mods, Shield regulator and Enhanced Shield Extender.
That would be one scary assault.
There's nothing wrong with assaults. It's just that people can't take their eyes off of the shiny toys to even give assaults a chance. Play assault, they still do well. Another problem is pub players don't perform their job. So more often than not, I gotta switch to a scout to drop uplinks. Switch to logi to drop repper nanos and heal. And then switch back to assaults to make sure the enemy doesn't distance themselves from us in clones.
The point to having an assault is that it is the go to slayer suit, so you're counterargument is null: in fact, it backs up my own argument.
The go to slayer suit should not be assault or commando or logi or heavy-it should be assault
Scout-assassinations
Heavy-point defense
commando-suppressive fire
Logi-organising/healing/ammo
"Minmitar Scout" and "Masochist" are synonyms.
Kills-Archduke Ferd1nand
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buzzzzzzz killllllllll
Sacred Initiative of Combat Killers
IMMORTAL REGIME
585
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Posted - 2014.07.14 23:25:00 -
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Mikey Ducati wrote:Bad idea. If you do this, then this would be a definite bonus for those very good slayers out there. Then in the future we would be talking about nerfing. I can imagine a reactive plate or another armor repper to speed up their role. Two damage mods, Shield regulator and Enhanced Shield Extender.
That would be one scary assault.
There's nothing wrong with assaults. It's just that people can't take their eyes off of the shiny toys to even give assaults a chance. Play assault, they still do well. Another problem is pub players don't perform their job. So more often than not, I gotta switch to a scout to drop uplinks. Switch to logi to drop repper nanos and heal. And then switch back to assaults to make sure the enemy doesn't distance themselves from us in clones.
u know, assaults are supposed to be good at slaying? they are not just free kills for scouts and heavies |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
4318
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Posted - 2014.07.14 23:49:00 -
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Would like to have seen a Grenadier Class with 2 Grenade Slots, only allowing 1 of each type (Locus, Flux, AV)
PSN: The_Rynoceros
Destiny beta SoonGäó
Console Master Race
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The True Inferno
Myrmidon Syndicate
21
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Posted - 2014.07.15 00:33:00 -
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Personally I think these skills really limit a players creativity, as a lot of players use a different racial weapon from their suit and yes I know you can fit a different weapon on a suit other than their racial one, but people want to make the most of their skills and this puts a mental barrier in front of their ideal fit. Most people go into a assualt suit because they want to use that suit, not the weapon attached.So from now I would like to see more suit skills that are NOT racial bonuses to equipment or weapons, and just focus around the suit, a lot like the old bonus to shield extension on assaults. I would suggest new skills that would focus around that suits area of module(eg caldari - shield extension, gallente - armor plating) and across the board weapon bonuses like range or damage.
ScP = GÖÑ
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
11842
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Posted - 2014.07.15 00:36:00 -
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The True Inferno wrote:Falsehoods.......
You aren't True!
You are False.
I am True!
"Your Faith stands as a shield for the Faithful, and you are one of His Angels." - Soren Tyrhannos to Templar Ouryon
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