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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
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Posted - 2014.07.12 12:19:00 -
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why couldnt they make it and not exclude 90% of the community
and create a giant afk fest
push most of the newer players away
like all you had to do was make it so any lvl of weapon could be used so everyone could participate and not just the isk loaded old pc hoarders.
i dunno the battlefields are just stale
i have to roll with 5 other proto vets to stand a chance because im constantly bumping into full proto squads...and because of the event if i want my kills to count i have to make them ina expensive suit..
i dunno ccp just really seems like this event could have been allot better.
all levels of weapons and suits should have been able to compete
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
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Posted - 2014.07.12 13:52:00 -
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Hawkings Greenback wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:If you are good enough to be competing for a weapon, you have more than enough ISK. If you can't go isk positive in proto, you aren't going to win anyway. This certainly rules me out.  And 90% of dust players. 
my point at least if they're weapons counted they would feel as if they hada chance.
just seems like an event meant for old closed beta vets and at the cost of scrubs
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars
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Posted - 2014.07.12 19:32:00 -
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Why the hell are only proto weapon kills eligible? If someone is able to outkill a proto user by having the handicap of a lesser gear, then the lesser gear user is even more deserving.
Why aren't kills with eligible weapons from the same category not counted together (example: ISK proto AR kills + LP proto AR kills)?
This event is fundamentally poorly, unfairly, and irrationally designed. I'd love to here the BS rationalizations.
i agree. completely +1 well said
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars
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Posted - 2014.07.12 20:15:00 -
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Henchmen21 wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:If you are good enough to be competing for a weapon, you have more than enough ISK. If you can't go isk positive in proto, you aren't going to win anyway. This certainly rules me out. Because people who AFK farmed and locked their districts for months in PC truly are the definition of good.
see this is my point exactly ccp shoulda made it where any weapon could be used..anyway that they could have done that would have made this event great.
because everyone could participate ,...this wont be a measure of skills it will be a measure of who has the biggest wallet
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars
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Posted - 2014.07.12 22:55:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf wrote:Why the hell are only proto weapon kills eligible? If someone is able to outkill a proto user by having the handicap of a lesser gear, then the lesser gear user is even more deserving.
Why aren't kills with eligible weapons from the same category not counted together (example: ISK proto AR kills + LP proto AR kills)?
This event is fundamentally poorly, unfairly, and irrationally designed. I'd love to here the BS rationalizations. Thank you!!!! I never ever ever ever run proto weapons. I always run basic and can out kill a fair share of proto users using my basic gear, I don't run proto due to cash flow, so why only award the greedy PC fat batards? Poorly thought out ccp....poorly thought out
PROVES MY POINT this was just the other day...why force people to use the most expensive ****..
http://imgur.com/BpRJSTz
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
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Posted - 2014.07.13 12:18:00 -
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Chimichanga66605 wrote:Leanna Boghin wrote:As much as i would like to agree with the OP i just cant do it and here is why. Even if CCP had allowed people to use any level grade weapon people would have still proto stomped the hell out of the event in an effort to win this event. It would have seriously hurt (not helped) the new players and might have very well ruined their experience of the game itself. Think of it this way if CCP had allowed every weapon grade into the event those that couldnt afford proto would have still tried to win the event by using mediocre weaponry and gear ultimately leading to them getting proto stomped by those players able to afford better gear leading to the under geared player not only getting stomped but losing tons of isk in the process. The way CCP did it may exclude the less inexperienced players but it also saves them the beating they would have likely gotten from the veteran players. ^Pretty much THIS.
i dont think gear matters as much as u make it out to...its just expensive and pretty
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
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Posted - 2014.07.13 14:38:00 -
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thats it for me my wallet wasnt big enough to name the weapon i use lol back to running all my roles
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
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Posted - 2014.07.15 13:05:00 -
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Cenex Langly wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:
AGAIN, if you aren't skilled enough to use proto that you'd actually LOSE isk by doing so, you shouldn't be the one to have the ability to name it. A player who just spams their way to victory that rushes in with the militia weapon and damage mods getting 10-15 kills per match and 20 deaths shouldn't be the one to win the event.
This part of your quote.. I have to disagree with ... "If you aren't skilled enough"... Let me tell you about skill in this game. It's irrelevant. When you can get Orbitaled on spawn. Shotgunned on spawn. Remote Explosive'd on spawn all before you even realize what the heck is going on... Skill means nothing in those situations. This happens to me about.. 3-4 times in a match. I die before I even get the opportunity to fight back. Sometimes I walk 10 feet and BAM I'm dead from a sniper right after I was killed by a tank or run over by a jeep just after spawning because some moron kept his jeep over an uplink... So skill.. No. The game mechanics prevent people from being able to play at their skill level, and those that abuse those game mechanics are the ones that benefit from this and make money like you do. I'm in the RED every single match even in my advanced tier gear because of bad game mechanics. The payout is abysmal and it doesn't allow the player to be good with an average amount of deaths. So no. I disagree with you 100% Oh. And for the record I average 10-20 kills per match with 8-9 deaths and pretty much I'm number 1 in my team with over 1500 WP making 300-400k ISK per match and I'm still in the negative... So yeah... no.
then you have the fact that most of the weapons are underpowered,...some of them like laser almost require the assault to run..or at least the commando neither of which are scouts...which means massive death. unless again your wallet is big enough to afford it...or you have logis following you around...
tbh im pissed because even though i wasnt gunna win because ccp made this event to cater towards people with pc isk...i didnt even get a fair shot because they crashed the servers on my only weekend...
ccp should extend this event by another weekend for those of us that had our attempt ruined by there faulty server.
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.15 13:32:00 -
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Maximus Stryker wrote:Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote:Hawkings Greenback wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:If you are good enough to be competing for a weapon, you have more than enough ISK. If you can't go isk positive in proto, you aren't going to win anyway. This certainly rules me out. And 90% of dust players. my point at least if they're weapons counted they would feel as if they hada chance. just seems like an event meant for old closed beta vets and at the cost of scrubs nope, it is just an event with/for people who are at the top tier of the game. Are you honestly arguing for an event to benefit 100% of players? If you are, that is a big mistake. No event caters to everyone, some events are focused on Light Weapons, some are for logi's, some are for scouts etc. etc. It is perfectly acceptable for a specific event to be more rewarding to a certain segment of the population, it just needs to balance out by way of having different events be more rewarding to different segments.
i disagree...this event is about naming officer weapons but instead of..having the best with any one weapon name it they are having the one with the biggest wallet whos good with it name it...
thats not right
i dont want an event that caters to everyone i want an event to do what it says this event is supposed to be about the best naming the officer weapons...
when did skill amount to..oldest fotm harvesters and pc harvesters stomping the **** out of newbs who have no reason to compete? or even fight back...most of the weekend half my team was either afking or sitting on the redline sniping.
it was boring it catered towards wallet size not skill...i dont mind ccp making an event for the people with the biggest wallets but thats what they should say..not an event to have the best witha weapon..name the officer variant..because thats not what they gave us..what they gave us was an event where those with fortunes and mountains of isk can spam proto gear regardless of actual skill and compete for kill counts.
i think someone who can kill 60 people in their standard suit..with their standard weapon should be recognized...above someone that can do the same ina proto suit...tell me who do you respect more and consider more skilled? the guy who stomps you in standard gear...or the one who stomps you in their proto suit?..
simple matter of fact...this event is not a measure of who is best with any given weapon.
but of who has the biggest wallet
i dont really think its arguable...
if the event were about the one with most skill in the weapon all weapons would be valid cept maybe mlt...and kdr performance would count.
in my opinion stnd weapon kills should count for more than proto weapon kills during this event....after all they are harder to kill with they do require more skill...so not only should they count...but they should count more than proto kills
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars
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Posted - 2014.07.15 22:35:00 -
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Tesfa Alem wrote:I-Shayz-I wrote:CCP Rattati wrote:Players who are good enough to go ISK positive in full proto will probably win this event. By that logic, they also do not need big wallets, because they will not lose ISK by doing so...therefore, they will not win the event because of their big ISK wallets, if they have them, from doing PC or otherwise. I had 50 million isk at the beginning of the event and am now up to 67 million isk from this event. I have been running full proto and have even been paying logistics players to keep me alive. Rattati is completely correct here. As for why you can't use basic or advanced weapons...well you'd basically be risking NOTHING in order to compete for OFFICER weapons. Not only that, but those that aren't skilled into the weapon to use the proto variant shouldn't be competing in the first place. AGAIN, if you aren't skilled enough to use proto that you'd actually LOSE isk by doing so, you shouldn't be the one to have the ability to name it. A player who just spams their way to victory that rushes in with the militia weapon and damage mods getting 10-15 kills per match and 20 deaths shouldn't be the one to win the event. In fact, I only went through less than 150 of my fittings. Considering I played enough matches to make 17 million isk, and my fitting only cost a bit over 100k, I made more back than I spent. Paying logis to keep you alive, it is thier skills made you that isk not your own skills with a rifle. And they are excluded from the event.
wow 150 proto fitting and barely flinches...and then of course you ran in you logi squad......fact is this event is about who has the most isk not whos best with something..or it would include all levels of the weapons as ive said from day 1
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
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Posted - 2014.07.16 00:23:00 -
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Mikey Ducati wrote:Even if the playing field was "leveled" in this contest, you would still have gotten wrecked. Naming an officer weapon? Of course the wolves are going to come out in packs and attack viciously to be immortalized in a piece of Dust lore.
That's just how it goes young man. No big deal.
who are you talking to
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars
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Posted - 2014.07.16 12:32:00 -
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Mikey Ducati wrote:Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote:Mikey Ducati wrote:Even if the playing field was "leveled" in this contest, you would still have gotten wrecked. Naming an officer weapon? Of course the wolves are going to come out in packs and attack viciously to be immortalized in a piece of Dust lore.
That's just how it goes young man. No big deal. who are you talking to You're getting warmer...
-_- your confusing ..and im notta young man.. you old fart
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