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Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3526	Posted - 2014.07.11 04:15:00 - [1] - Quote Seriously, 1 meter bonus to range isn't all that useful... "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Louis Domi Pradox One Proficiency V. 457	Posted - 2014.07.11 04:33:00 - [2] - Quote 1 meter extra awareness could save you from surprise butt **** in the real world... Although I will admit on dust it is kind of useless...
SAIRAX SIS Nyain San General Tso's Alliance 102	Posted - 2014.07.11 05:02:00 - [3] - Quote Pls,Scan range bonus change to Profile Dumpner or Cloak Dumpting Efficiency bonus. Passive Dumpting Bonus keep it. yoroshiku ne !pÇÇpÇÇCute Cat NyaoooonpÇÇGÖ¬
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1263	Posted - 2014.07.11 05:03:00 - [4] - Quote SAIRAX SIS wrote: Pls,Scan range bonus change to Profile Dumpner or Cloak Dumpting Efficiency bonus. Passive Dumpting Bonus keep it. id love a dumpting bonus! or a bonus to dumpners too Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3527	Posted - 2014.07.11 05:07:00 - [5] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: SAIRAX SIS wrote: Pls,Scan range bonus change to Profile Dumpner or Cloak Dumpting Efficiency bonus. Passive Dumpting Bonus keep it. id love a dumpting bonus! or a bonus to dumpners too A bonus to cloak damps isn't a bad idea actually... "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 1265	Posted - 2014.07.11 05:12:00 - [6] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: SAIRAX SIS wrote: Pls,Scan range bonus change to Profile Dumpner or Cloak Dumpting Efficiency bonus. Passive Dumpting Bonus keep it. id love a dumpting bonus! or a bonus to dumpners too A bonus to cloak damps isn't a bad idea actually... Well the new bonuses for scouts in Charlie are as follows- Am-precision Cal-range Gal-damp Min-????(hopefully cloak dampening) They are being limited to one bonus Kills- Archduke Ferdinand Balance!
Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3527	Posted - 2014.07.11 05:33:00 - [7] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: SAIRAX SIS wrote: Pls,Scan range bonus change to Profile Dumpner or Cloak Dumpting Efficiency bonus. Passive Dumpting Bonus keep it. id love a dumpting bonus! or a bonus to dumpners too A bonus to cloak damps isn't a bad idea actually... Well the new bonuses for scouts in Charlie are as follows- Am-precision Cal-range Gal-damp Min-????(hopefully cloak dampening) They are being limited to one bonus Are they losing hacking? "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3527	Posted - 2014.07.11 14:33:00 - [8] - Quote ? "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Vencio Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 13	Posted - 2014.07.11 16:37:00 - [9] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: SAIRAX SIS wrote: Pls,Scan range bonus change to Profile Dumpner or Cloak Dumpting Efficiency bonus. Passive Dumpting Bonus keep it. id love a dumpting bonus! or a bonus to dumpners too A bonus to cloak damps isn't a bad idea actually... Well the new bonuses for scouts in Charlie are as follows- Am-precision Cal-range Gal-damp Min-????(hopefully cloak dampening) They are being limited to one bonus If this is indeed a statement from a CCP Dev, I'd say this will make it well balanced and fair for everyone else in the Dust Community, without feeling degraded. Think about it..... Scouts already has the bonus of %15 up PG and CPU....that accounts more as a secondary bonus for all scouts equally. As for the Primary bonus for each following race, this is actually fantastic! As a Gallente Scout however, I would really like to have our dampening %5 back, or leat hopes that Charlie Update brings our truth Stealth- Mastery.
Vencio Villore Sec Ops Gallente Federation 13	Posted - 2014.07.11 16:39:00 - [10] - Quote Also, I must say every Dust players must be given the right (while optional) to have a revamp full respect, considering the changes has been both greatly improved and also affected others....I just trust CCP Rattati may consider this...I feel others are.

Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3528	Posted - 2014.07.11 16:47:00 - [11] - Quote Vencio wrote: Also, I must say every Dust players must be given the right (while optional) to have a revamp full respec, considering the changes has been both greatly improved and also affected others....I just trust CCP Rattati may consider this...I feel others are. I'd be fine with the Matari getting the active damps if we get our 5 percent back. It would honestly give each scout a role in the eWar field. Along with a secondary bonus, we could get real defined roles without being gimped. I'd be fine with a respec, but I'd still go back to Gallente(have done it everytime) but I always fear that people will abuse the new FoTM(like they did with my poor old GalScout) "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Cavani1EE7 The Rainbow Effect Dark Taboo 136	Posted - 2014.07.11 17:24:00 - [12] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Seriously, 1 meter bonus to range isn't all that useful... It's 2 meters. 1337
Jotun Izalaru Goonfeet 149	Posted - 2014.07.11 17:25:00 - [13] - Quote Any 'bonus' that is cloak exclusive is a terrible idea. bad enough all scouts got saddled with that cloak nonsense, don't make anyone double down on it.
headbust SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 57	Posted - 2014.07.11 17:33:00 - [14] - Quote yes as i have said in some other posts our range bonus is worthless. at level 5 we only get a 5% bonus which means 5% of 20 meters which equals 1 meter ..... now 1 meter in dust is absolutely nothing so ccp you either need to change it or give it back.this is by far the worst bonus of all the bonuses.also rattatai y was it nerfed in first place never heard 1 person complain about range. and i support a full respec you guys have changed so much stuff it isn't funny and they r not little changes you have made some weapons good but ruined others. same thing with suits all my scouts are e-war and you have nerfed my e-war into the ground so now its either run 3 dampeners or run 3 plates. i mean thats how everyone looks at it everybody that ran assault gall scouts still do it they didnt care about the e-war so the only person you hurt were the real scouts. to fix an armor scout you are going to have to do something about hp stacking penalties on scouts. a scout = once you turn your back on me you'll never be able to look back
headbust SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 57	Posted - 2014.07.11 17:34:00 - [15] - Quote Cavani1EE7 wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Seriously, 1 meter bonus to range isn't all that useful... It's 2 meters. its only 1 we get 1% per level which is 5% of 20 meters a scout = once you turn your back on me you'll never be able to look back
Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3536	Posted - 2014.07.11 18:32:00 - [16] - Quote Cavani1EE7 wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Seriously, 1 meter bonus to range isn't all that useful... It's 2 meters. 1-2 meters is still awful. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3540	Posted - 2014.07.11 23:48:00 - [17] - Quote Nothing here? "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Bojo The Mighty Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno 4100	Posted - 2014.07.12 01:35:00 - [18] - Quote As a Gallente Scout who does not use cloaks Cloak bonuses suck Smell the burning flesh. Taste the tangy sulfur air. Volcano Season - Moltar's Haiku : SGC2C
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 2480	Posted - 2014.07.12 02:33:00 - [19] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Vencio wrote: Also, I must say every Dust players must be given the right (while optional) to have a revamp full respec, considering the changes has been both greatly improved and also affected others....I just trust CCP Rattati may consider this...I feel others are. I'd be fine with the Matari getting the active damps if we get our 5 percent back. It would honestly give each scout a role in the eWar field. Along with a secondary bonus, we could get real defined roles without being gimped. I'd be fine with a respec, but I'd still go back to Gallente(have done it everytime) but I always fear that people will abuse the new FoTM(like they did with my poor old GalScout) I am still upset about the problems that last respec caused. Never again. This is how a minja feels
Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3547	Posted - 2014.07.12 03:27:00 - [20] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: As a Gallente Scout who does not use cloaks Cloak bonuses suck At this point, I'll take any less useless bonus... "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire

Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3552	Posted - 2014.07.12 14:27:00 - [21] - Quote Le sigh "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Sylwester Dziewiecki Interregnum. 326	Posted - 2014.07.12 14:38:00 - [22] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Seriously, 1 meter bonus to range isn't all that useful... Scouts have 20 meters base scanner proximity so it's +5 meters at lvl5(+25%), right? Nosum Hseebnrido
Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3552	Posted - 2014.07.12 15:14:00 - [23] - Quote Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Seriously, 1 meter bonus to range isn't all that useful... Scouts have 20 meters base scanner proximity so it's +5 meters at lvl5(+25%), right? It's 1 percent per level. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 1308	Posted - 2014.07.12 15:46:00 - [24] - Quote Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: SAIRAX SIS wrote: Pls,Scan range bonus change to Profile Dumpner or Cloak Dumpting Efficiency bonus. Passive Dumpting Bonus keep it. id love a dumpting bonus! or a bonus to dumpners too A bonus to cloak damps isn't a bad idea actually... Well the new bonuses for scouts in Charlie are as follows- Am-precision Cal-range Gal-damp Min-????(hopefully cloak dampening) They are being limited to one bonus Its s**t if you ask me. The whole reason I speced into Gallente scouts was because they were the long range passive scanners (less precision than Caldari / others, but the most range) now for the 2nd or 3rd time CCP nerfs my role and makes my suit something else. Why? The same with Amarr logi, they have discussion about taking away its side arm - the whole reason I wanted to use the suit in the first place. Please stop changing roles of suits every month CCP. -=#[ Gastun's Forge ]#=- MY LIFE FOR AIUR! "I'm wasting away here" - "Get me back into zee fight!
Sylwester Dziewiecki Interregnum. 326	Posted - 2014.07.12 15:48:00 - [25] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Seriously, 1 meter bonus to range isn't all that useful... Scouts have 20 meters base scanner proximity so it's +5 meters at lvl5(+25%), right? It's 1 percent per level. Sorry I mistaken current bonuses with old GS bonuses. Nosum Hseebnrido
Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3553	Posted - 2014.07.12 15:52:00 - [26] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Gavr1lo Pr1nc1p wrote: SAIRAX SIS wrote: Pls,Scan range bonus change to Profile Dumpner or Cloak Dumpting Efficiency bonus. Passive Dumpting Bonus keep it. id love a dumpting bonus! or a bonus to dumpners too A bonus to cloak damps isn't a bad idea actually... Well the new bonuses for scouts in Charlie are as follows- Am-precision Cal-range Gal-damp Min-????(hopefully cloak dampening) They are being limited to one bonus Its s*t if you ask me. The whole reason I speced into Gallente scouts was because they were the long range passive scanners (less precision than Caldari / others, but the most range) now for the 2nd or 3rd time CCP nerfs my role and makes my suit something else. Why? The same with Amarr logi, they have discussion about taking away its side arm - the whole reason I wanted to use the suit in the first place. Please stop changing roles of suits every month CCP. yeah, I've been Gallente for awhile and it sucks. I kind of feel like they are gonna leave the suit as it is, and buff the Minmatar/Amarr, thereby making them the FoTM. The Amarr Logi is another thing, I don't care if it keeps it's sidearm(I'd actually prefer if it did) but it can't gain a low slot and equipment slot. "I do agree with you there though. shudders*" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3559	Posted - 2014.07.12 19:34:00 - [27] - Quote Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Sylwester Dziewiecki wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Seriously, 1 meter bonus to range isn't all that useful... Scouts have 20 meters base scanner proximity so it's +5 meters at lvl5(+25%), right? It's 1 percent per level. Sorry I mistaken current bonuses with old GS bonuses. edit: https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2255570#post2255570 Figured that XD "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Ydubbs81 RND Ahrendee Mercenaries 3235	Posted - 2014.07.12 23:02:00 - [28] - Quote All bonuses should go to efficacies towards the modules and not for passives!! Someone start the petition. Removed all hope with this post
Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3563	Posted - 2014.07.13 00:12:00 - [29] - Quote Ydubbs81 RND wrote: All bonuses should go to efficacies towards the modules and not for passives!! Someone start the petition. Agree! "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Bojo The Mighty Spaceman Drug Cartel-Uno 4107	Posted - 2014.07.13 02:20:00 - [30] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: All bonuses should go to efficacies towards the modules and not for passives!! Someone start the petition. Agree! It is scheduled for delta they couldn't fit it in time for Charlie Smell the burning flesh. Taste the tangy sulfur air. Volcano Season - Moltar's Haiku : SGC2C

Jaran Vilktar The Gauldar Tactical Alliance 7	Posted - 2014.07.13 02:55:00 - [31] - Quote Agreed! PLEASE CCP change the +1% Bonus to Scan Radius per level on the Gallente Scout for something that's actually an appealing and usefull bonus, the +3% Bonus to Scan Profile Dampening is fine as it is but the Scan Radius Bonus is an absolute JOKE! Perhaps substituting it with a passive bonus that mixes well with dampening such as Hacking Speed or some bonus to the usage of modules on the dropsuit would be a better choice. PLEASE! I KNOW that any Gallente Scout out there would agree that literally ANY bonus would be preferable over a total of a +5% Bonus to Scan Radius on a Maxed-Out Skill! DUST 514 Is the first FPS I played actively for the PS3 and is my favorite FPS to this very day. :)
Medical Crash Paladin Survey Force Amarr Empire 359	Posted - 2014.07.13 04:34:00 - [32] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: Seriously, 1 meter bonus to range isn't all that useful... Would you like some cheese with that whine?
Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3581	Posted - 2014.07.14 18:32:00 - [33] - Quote Bojo The Mighty wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Ydubbs81 RND wrote: All bonuses should go to efficacies towards the modules and not for passives!! Someone start the petition. Agree! It is scheduled for delta they couldn't fit it in time for Charlie Oh...well then. Ahem... "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
headbust SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 64	Posted - 2014.07.14 18:38:00 - [34] - Quote Medical Crash wrote: Cody Sietz wrote: Seriously, 1 meter bonus to range isn't all that useful... Would you like some cheese with that whine? would u like some teeth left with ur smile lol JK but u had it coming TROLL a scout = once you turn your back on me you'll never be able to look back
The dark cloud The Rainbow Effect 3533	Posted - 2014.07.14 18:58:00 - [35] - Quote Doesnt really matter the skill that unlocks range amplifiers grants up to 50% additional range anyway. Then you get the 5% from gal scouts and you have still a decent scan range.
headbust SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 64	Posted - 2014.07.14 19:54:00 - [36] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: Doesnt really matter the skill that unlocks range amplifiers grants up to 50% additional range anyway. Then you get the 5% from gal scouts and you have still a decent scan range. ok so saying after the initial 50% bonus that will get us to say 30 meters ok..... not bad BUT that 5% only gives us 1.5 meters extra now sound like much of a bonus I THINK NOT a scout = once you turn your back on me you'll never be able to look back
Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dark Taboo 3583	Posted - 2014.07.14 22:44:00 - [37] - Quote The dark cloud wrote: Doesnt really matter the skill that unlocks range amplifiers grants up to 50% additional range anyway. Then you get the 5% from gal scouts and you have still a decent scan range. Soooo 1.5 meters...yay! "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire
Kallas Hallytyr Skullbreakers 624	Posted - 2014.07.15 00:19:00 - [38] - Quote Cody Sietz wrote: The dark cloud wrote: Doesnt really matter the skill that unlocks range amplifiers grants up to 50% additional range anyway. Then you get the 5% from gal scouts and you have still a decent scan range. Soooo 1.5 meters...yay! Indeed, that GalScout range bonus is...almost entirely irrelevant. I'd like to see us getting balanced dampening (ie, a bonus that let's us dodge low yield scanning easily, but means very precise scans will still need reasonable fitting sacrifice: at least two complex dampenersy, for example) and a secondary bonus, like better passive reps, but stripping the suit base down to nothing. Maybe like the old Logi bonus of 1HP/s/level? My reasoning behind that is that both Caldari (range) and Amarr (precision) help their squad through the squad sharing mechanic, where the Gallente (dampening) (also the Minmatar, but that's a different topic) only affect them, since evading scans is in no way shared. Simply put, better scanning is multiplied by the number of squadmates in close proximity where dampening is not. Alt of Halla Murr.


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