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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.07.10 14:31:00 -
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Fanfest has come and gone. Development on Dust 514 continues, albeit at a limp. Oh, but what a limp...
CCP Rattati has brought some AAA-game to a D-game with hotfix Alpha, Bravo, and the soon-to-be Charlie. Some much needed balancing and other fun goodies have been in these last two hotfixes and it seems like the next few will be just as useful.
...which got me to thinking... Why?
What's the point of improving a game that is going to be put down in the coming year or so? It's actually pretty cruel to the players, when you think about it.
Imagine Dust is an athlete. It suffered through some rough years (alpha - 1.8), squandering its potential, but its fans believed in it. Then someone shot Dust in the spine, I don't know I'll make up a name, let's call him Rouge. Anyway... this guy Rouge crippled Dust 514 from the waist down. The doctors say Dust will never walk again.
Months of intense physical therapy ensue (hotfix Alpha and Bravo). Every week the doctors keep telling Dust might regain some feeling in his extremities, but no movement... until Dust wiggles his toe. Dust tries again and again to stand up on his own, and after all the falls and pathetic collapses, he finally stands... defiant in the face of God! (hotfix Delta and Echo) He keeps up the momentum; by training his body hours every day he starts finding willpower he never thought he had. He was standing, now he is walking! (hotfix Foxtrot) Just when the reporters start knocking on his door to hear his story he is running down the sidewalk of his old neighhood! He neighbors are cheering, happy smiles abound. (hotfix Golf)
... then that Rouge guy from before hits Dust with a car going 80mph.
He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
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Spaceman-Rob
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.10 14:39:00 -
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Dust may be getting put down for you in a year or so as you put it, but it won't for me and many others who will continue to play and enjoy dust whilst we wait for Legion to be developed on pc and then get ported over to ps4 much like planetside 2 did. |
Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.07.10 14:46:00 -
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Spaceman-Rob wrote:Dust may be getting put down for you in a year or so as you put it, but it won't for me and many others who will continue to play and enjoy dust whilst we wait for Legion to be developed on PC and then get ported over to PS4 much like planteside 2 did.
I don't recall CCP ever stating they will be porting Legion to PS4. Have a source on that?
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.07.10 14:50:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Spaceman-Rob wrote:Dust may be getting put down for you in a year or so as you put it, but it won't for me and many others who will continue to play and enjoy dust whilst we wait for Legion to be developed on PC and then get ported over to PS4 much like Planetside 2 did. I don't recall CCP ever stating they will be porting Legion to PS4. Have a source on that? They want it. A lot.
In fact, they're building the game to be very easily portable to the PS4.
It's just that they can't request premission from Sony to bring this game to the PS4 when the game didn't get a greenlight from the CEO of the company. Speaking of, can we get an update on that?
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.07.10 14:53:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Speaking of, can we get an update on that?
Yes please, can we?
It still doesn't change the fact that Dust is basically being allowed to circle the drain slowly. For what reason? To milk the last few AUR sales they can muster?
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.07.10 14:57:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Cat Merc wrote:Speaking of, can we get an update on that? Yes please, can we? It still doesn't change the fact that Dust is basically being allowed to circle the drain slowly. For what reason? To milk the last few AUR sales they can muster? Well, they have a game that's going to have the same weapons and gear as in Legion. Why not test the balancing here?
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.07.10 15:06:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Well, they have a game that's going to have the same weapons and gear as in Legion. Why not test the balancing here?
Unless they are going to be copy pasting data from Dust 514 most balancing data they are gathering isn't useful. If they are going to be copy pasting from Dust 514... why the **** are they killing Dust 514 completely instead of just porting it to PC and continuing development on Dust 514 (PS3) full-steam ahead?
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Chunky Munkey
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.10 15:40:00 -
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Once they no longer cared about the direction of the game, CCP was free to let Ratatoille cater to the desires of the players.
RIP Stinky Sleeve.
RIP Dust514.
See you on Destiny. PSN: GSDSteVB
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Terram Nenokal
Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.10 15:44:00 -
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I just hope CCP uses all of this valuable data and balance in Legion. I really hope Dust's metagame and balance isn't thrown out in the process.
I'm okay with this whole deal as long as I know I'm part of a valuable beta test that will ultimately be used in the next product. If now, then you're right, what's the point? |
Maiden selena MORTIMOR
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.10 15:57:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Ripley Riley wrote:Spaceman-Rob wrote:Dust may be getting put down for you in a year or so as you put it, but it won't for me and many others who will continue to play and enjoy dust whilst we wait for Legion to be developed on PC and then get ported over to PS4 much like Planetside 2 did. I don't recall CCP ever stating they will be porting Legion to PS4. Have a source on that? They want it. A lot. In fact, they're building the game to be very easily portable to the PS4. It's just that they can't request premission from Sony to bring this game to the PS4 when the game didn't get a greenlight from the CEO of the company. Speaking of, can we get an update on that? i wont believe legion will be on ps4 until sony tells me it..ccp's word isnt very great..however it would be nice as i have spent allot of time in dust love the realm and would only play it on a console |
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.10 15:59:00 -
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The problem with people thinking DUST is just going to die is based largely off bullshit and ignorance.. This forums specialty :D
Games take years to develop. Not A YEAR... or even two... GTA 5 was 6 years of development before they even started leaking footage. Fallout 4 will have 7-8 years of development before it launches possibly next year..
Now Legion will probably be a 3 year development cycle.. But still.. we have a couple more years floating around where CCP only has 2 active IP's. and 2 in development.
As a corporation that is trying to grow in game development.. It would make little sense to pull the plug on DUST until you absolutely had to.
Did CCP do a terrible job at fanfest? HELL YEA.. That was terrible.
Seriously CCP could of just withheld the cloaking feature from 1.8... then at Fanfest say "here is cloaking!" one of the last massively developed features we have for DUST because we are making it better! making it what it should be! Making it Legion! And hinted at the ease that it would be to port a properly built product on PC, over to other platforms.. and left it at that.. Didn't even have to make a commitment.
And everything in DUST would of been massively different.
Instead CCP just went up on stage and pretty much said... Ok we love the community.. And are passionate about the game... but SCREW DUST AND SCREW CONSOLES.
They got exactly what they gave.
That being said.. This product isn't going anywhere.. it will still be here this time next year. |
Ripley Riley
Incorruptibles
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Posted - 2014.07.10 16:40:00 -
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Maiden selena MORTIMOR wrote:I wont believe legion will be on ps4 until Sony tells me it... ccp's word isn't very great... however it would be nice as I have spent a lot of time in Dust love the realm and would only play it on a console
Quoting for truth. Until I see a splash ad for Legion on PS'4s PSN I'm not going to hold my breath.
Bethhy wrote:Games take years to develop. Not A YEAR... or even two... Legion will probably be a 3 year development cycle..
As a corporation that is trying to grow in game development.. It would make little sense to pull the plug on DUST until you absolutely had to.
Pull the plug on Dust 514 development, move all devs from Dust 514 projects to Legion projects. The effect would either be improvement to the overall polish of Legion on release, closer release date, or both. Instead, CCP let's Dust continue to bleed out on the concrete.
Bethhy wrote:Did CCP do a terrible job at fanfest? HELL YEA.. That was terrible.
Instead CCP just went up on stage and pretty much said... Ok we love the community.. And are passionate about the game... but SCREW DUST AND SCREW CONSOLES.
They got exactly what they gave.
It was one of the worst slaps to the face that any gaming company has done to its player base, I say that with the knowledge of some of EA's worst screw ups in mind.
Bethhy wrote:That being said.. This product isn't going anywhere.. it will still be here this time next year.
I know it will be. I have every confidence that Dust 514 will continue to exist until at least the quarter before Legion launches. I just ask: why?
He imposes order on the chaos of organic evolution...
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2014.07.10 16:56:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Fanfest has come and gone. Development on Dust 514 continues, albeit at a limp. Oh, but what a limp... CCP Rattati has brought some AAA-game to a D-game with hotfix Alpha, Bravo, and the soon-to-be Charlie. Some much needed balancing and other fun goodies have been in these last two hotfixes and it seems like the next few will be just as useful. ...which got me to thinking... Why? What's the point of improving a game that is going to be put down in the coming year or so? It's actually pretty cruel to the players, when you think about it. Imagine Dust is an athlete. It suffered through some rough years (alpha - 1.8), squandering its potential, but its fans believed in it. Then someone shot Dust in the spine, I don't know I'll make up a name, let's call him Rouge. Anyway... this guy Rouge crippled Dust 514 from the waist down. The doctors say Dust will never walk again. Months of intense physical therapy ensue (hotfix Alpha and Bravo). Every week the doctors keep telling Dust might regain some feeling in his extremities, but no movement... until Dust wiggles his toe. Dust tries again and again to stand up on his own, and after all the falls and pathetic collapses, he finally stands... defiant in the face of God! (hotfix Delta and Echo) He keeps up the momentum; by training his body hours every day he starts finding willpower he never thought he had. He was standing, now he is walking! (hotfix Foxtrot) Just when the reporters start knocking on his door to hear his story he is running down the sidewalk of his old neighhood! He neighbors are cheering, happy smiles abound. (hotfix Golf) ... then that Rouge guy from before hits Dust with a car going 80mph.
Rogue was in the back seat of the limo; he has changed drivers since then.
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Posted - 2014.07.10 17:00:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Ripley Riley wrote: ... then that Rouge guy from before hits Dust with a car going 80mph.
Rogue was in the back seat of the limo; he has changed drivers since then.
Woah...you come to us with news from the future? Tell us......which date are you from!!!??????
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DUST Fiend
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.07.10 17:07:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:This product isn't going anywhere The painful truth
The Future
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Mobius Wyvern
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2014.07.10 17:22:00 -
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Ripley Riley wrote:Spaceman-Rob wrote:Dust may be getting put down for you in a year or so as you put it, but it won't for me and many others who will continue to play and enjoy dust whilst we wait for Legion to be developed on PC and then get ported over to PS4 much like Planetside 2 did. I don't recall CCP ever stating they will be porting Legion to PS4. Have a source on that? In most of their invterviews they have said "we want to go to next-gen at some point" in about the same vein as they've been saying "Project Legion still hasn't been green-lit yet".
Basically, they still have no idea what they want to do next.
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.07.10 17:50:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Rouge was in the back seat of the limo; he has changed drivers since then.
I'm tripping over my own metaphor... who is the driver in this scenario? Why is it a limo? Does this have anything to do with foreign oil? RON PAUL 2016?!
... making the switch to decaf tomorrow.
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Ripley Riley
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Posted - 2014.07.10 17:51:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Basically, they still have no idea what they want to do next.
Very few posts on this forums contain this much truth...
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