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Mortedeamor Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 1803	Posted - 2014.07.10 11:21:00 - [1] - Quote lets have a discussion. topic question: how does everyone feel about these logi changes.? do they fix some problem with logi's i do not know of? whos for it? whos against it? who's ticked off that ccp is even considering nerfing logi's more?
Doc DDD TeamPlayers 190	Posted - 2014.07.10 11:55:00 - [2] - Quote What I don't understand is that the min logi is the best pure logi for repair its getting buffed while the others are getting nerfed. Nerf amar logi sidearm so it can have more equipment for no reason Nerf caldari logi to be even more useless if it loses a low slot. Nerf gal logi by removing who knows what, it will still be better than caldari thanks to OP armor. why not spend your time buffing the underpowered suits ie. Assaults, Cal logis, then worry about breaking the other suits. I was under the impression ccp was trying to avoid buffing one side of the equation while nerfing the other side as that seems to cause massive balance issues that need more hot fixes. Stick to overhauling one set of suits at a time, scout suits are already borderline better than logi suits at everything logi, let's not make logi suits obsolete because some moron thinks equal number of slots is akin to balance when low slots win marches.
Sum1ne Else G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1256	Posted - 2014.07.10 13:41:00 - [3] - Quote STUPID IDEA..really, where the fk do they get these ideas from EDIT: 3 closed beta players agreeing, WTF CCP- LISTEN TO YOUR MOST EXPERIANCED PLAYERBASE and probably the people that have spent more real life money on this game then many of the n00bs suggesting these ideas put together Impressive? Longest PLC Kill 151.8m - OHK on a Heavy Logi mk.0 - Commando gk.0 - Scout gk.0
Jooki Chewaka Stalking Wolfpack 98	Posted - 2014.07.10 14:46:00 - [4] - Quote I've been saying since old lose beta days that one of the things that dust lacked most was EVE<->Dust consistency. On eve, the 4 logistic hulls repair, all of them have bonus on the remote repair modules, AND, something else. This is why makes no sense that the only one that has a bonus on repair is the minmatar. See you from orbit
Grimmiers 624	Posted - 2014.07.10 15:12:00 - [5] - Quote Doc DDD wrote: What I don't understand is that the min logi is the best pure logi for repair its getting buffed while the others are getting nerfed. Nerf amar logi sidearm so it can have more equipment for no reason Nerf caldari logi to be even more useless if it loses a low slot. Nerf gal logi by removing who knows what, it will still be better than caldari thanks to OP armor. why not spend your time buffing the underpowered suits ie. Assaults, Cal logis, then worry about breaking the other suits. I was under the impression ccp was trying to avoid buffing one side of the equation while nerfing the other side as that seems to cause massive balance issues that need more hot fixes. Stick to overhauling one set of suits at a time, scout suits are already borderline better than logi suits at everything logi, let's not make logi suits obsolete because some moron thinks equal number of slots is akin to balance when low slots win marches. If they tweak the wp distributed by higher tier nanohives it might make callogi's more appealing. A hive that gives 80+hp to armor should be giving more than 25 wps. I wish ccp would bring back B-type dropsuits for players looking for a something that blurs roles like the amarr logi. They could even put them in the lp store to make them feel extra special. Now that I think of it the gallogi should be getting more points based on how low the profile of the scanned enemy was. This would make using the focused scanner fun and the points would give good feedback to the scanning crowd.
Byozuma Kegawa Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 288	Posted - 2014.07.10 15:44:00 - [6] - Quote I just don't want to lose my sidearm. Amarr logistics are bad enough that we have a 'slot' devoted to an armor plate, complete with requisite speed decrease (slowest logistics suit in the game), but to take away one of the reasons we have that 'slotted' armor plate... why? Makes no sense to me.
Klutch Cordova Direct Action Resources 17	Posted - 2014.07.10 16:00:00 - [7] - Quote I think Logis are fine as is, bonuses, differences and all. I wouldn't turn down additional walk speed, though. Whether you're an assault or whether you're a heavy, you're stayin' alive, stayin' alive. It's "Klutch," not "Krutch."
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 2634	Posted - 2014.07.10 17:12:00 - [8] - Quote Which of the following is not better than Assault units in the role of Assault? * Commandos * Fine-Rifle Heavies * Tanky Scouts * Slayer Logis Shoot scout with yes... - Ripley Riley
Seymour KrelbornX Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire 431	Posted - 2014.07.10 18:07:00 - [9] - Quote this is the best idea I have ever heard for how to balance logis: part of a post from zdub, With scouts and heavies the way they are after 1.7 and 1.8 it seems that straight buffs to the medium suits make more sense to me. imho... adding a sidearm to caldari and doing a slot normalization that way makes much more sense. You have caldari and amarr as 'combat logi' suits with bonuses more oriented towards being near the frontline (uplinks and ammo) while minmatar and gallente logis would be more inclined to focus on their 'active equipment' using rep tools and scanners more in general and not being so inclined to need a sidearm.
Maiden selena MORTIMOR Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2014.07.10 19:36:00 - [10] - Quote Seymour KrelbornX wrote: this is the best idea I have ever heard for how to balance logis: part of a post from zdub, With scouts and heavies the way they are after 1.7 and 1.8 it seems that straight buffs to the medium suits make more sense to me. imho... adding a sidearm to caldari and doing a slot normalization that way makes much more sense. You have caldari and amarr as 'combat logi' suits with bonuses more oriented towards being near the frontline (uplinks and ammo) while minmatar and gallente logis would be more inclined to focus on their 'active equipment' using rep tools and scanners more in general and not being so inclined to need a sidearm. yes i saw this very right very right no im not a mortedeamor alt..im her slave

Sum1ne Else G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 1260	Posted - 2014.07.10 22:30:00 - [11] - Quote Seymour KrelbornX wrote: this is the best idea I have ever heard for how to balance logis: part of a post from zdub, With scouts and heavies the way they are after 1.7 and 1.8 it seems that straight buffs to the medium suits make more sense to me. imho... adding a sidearm to caldari and doing a slot normalization that way makes much more sense. You have caldari and amarr as 'combat logi' suits with bonuses more oriented towards being near the frontline (uplinks and ammo) while minmatar and gallente logis would be more inclined to focus on their 'active equipment' using rep tools and scanners more in general and not being so inclined to need a sidearm. o7 +1 Impressive? Longest PLC Kill 151.8m - OHK on a Heavy Logi mk.0 - Commando gk.0 - Scout gk.0
aaaasdff ertgfdd Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 86	Posted - 2014.07.10 23:05:00 - [12] - Quote Mortedeamor wrote: lets have a discussion. topic question: how does everyone feel about these logi changes.? do they fix some problem with logi's i do not know of? whos for it? whos against it? who's ticked off that ccp is even considering nerfing logi's more? I think its the dumbest idea ccp has created in a good while. It FEELS like the beginning of tiericide and that is my BIGGEST concern by far. I have 6 proto suits, none are logis and I think this idea is simply bad.
KEROSIINI-TERO The Rainbow Effect 1127	Posted - 2014.07.11 01:39:00 - [13] - Quote My responses: - Adjusting skills so they won't be limited to just one particular piece of equipment is good - Slight speed reduction is acceptable although might be unnecessary (except it is for the the purpose of findin "the perfect" steps of suit speed between hvy-logi-aslt-scout) - Amarr logi to lose it's sidearm.. A tragedy. One that makes one interesting suit lose it's non-op ability. Makes me really sad. :-S


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