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THUNDERGROOVE
Fatal Absolution
973
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Posted - 2014.07.01 21:27:00 -
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Bright Steel wrote:LT SHANKS wrote:Proto MinScout? You mean target practice? Amarian scum are not match for our superior tactics. Hit me if you can It's okay, we only have to land one shot anyways.
The Amarr scout bonus is like the old Amarr sentinel bonus. No one needed 25% reduction to overheat damage on a heavy;_;
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Eko Sol
Strange Playings
497
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Posted - 2014.07.01 22:02:00 -
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In a PC match it took 7 guys to finally stop me in a city on a five point map. Every time I showed up in the city, Djinn Loki had to come and save all of the heavies and logis that were in the city that I was harassing and destroying.
On another PC, I held an objective, killed a top Cal Scout player, and destroyed two tanks completely solo. It took an ADS, 2 tanks, a great cal scout, and a scrub to stop me. There was one other player helping but, no offense if he reads this since he did pay me to help, he wasn't helping much at all IMO. Gods among men and the hired help Necromongers hired are not a joke so saying I played scrubs is nonsense.
I have, on numerous occasions, held a skirm objective (pub) completely solo against "proto stompers) when On the losing team with my ADV suit let alone proto suit.
I can, with confidence, tell you that I'm not a great player. I'm a good player at best.
I have asked numerous people on the forums to run with me for AV, Scouting, etc. and only two people ever took me up on it. Will Driver (AV) and some guy teaching another guy how to be a scout who was actually relatively good. I had a terrible day in that squad. I was half playing like crap and half bad luck or bad network speed or something b/c damage wasn't registering. What is worse is that there are players that are on the forums who argue with me that leave every match they get in where they are on the enemy team but have no problem playing on the same team. It's a joke.
Anyway, the long story short is that I think the Min Scout is far more dangerous then people are giving it credit. The problem is people want to be slayers too often. I can't tell you how many times I had 2k WP going 4/1.
Personally, the only buff it should get is even more hack speed. The problem is the hack bonus isn't sufficient to keep the min scout in it's "in and out" type role.
I've shared my fits before to a bunch of negative comments. Blows my mind. People still argue with me about putting two complex dampeners on the min scout on ALL STD, ADV, and Proto suits I run. I now use my A-Logi for any assault type stuff I want to do.
I say, no one is scared of the Min scout b/c it's freaking hard to be a good one. But everyone should be scared of any good player regardless of suit. I just so happened to be scared of no suit except for people that play very similar to me or a very, VERY skilled ADS pilots.
OP, you have it right. Harass everyone you can and watch as the whiners make our suit that much better. I hope they buff the hack bonus, biotics, hp, and CPU/PG all at once or whatever it is everyone wants. I would love to be FoTM instead of the so called "underdog".
PSN is "Ekopalm"
I play D3, Child of Light, and solo games
Also, Proto Trolling until I'm broke...
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Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
3388
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Posted - 2014.07.02 11:04:00 -
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Bright Steel wrote:Nocturnal Soul wrote:You mean that rag doll that my Scr eats for a sub-snack Oh how I do hate those scrambler rifles. I swear I have been killed by a single charged shot in a 10 meter engagement. It happened multiple times, I was impressed and moved on to the other side of the map LOL I swear that cal scout saw me coming :) It's probably because he did, ya know since he was in a Cal scout
Its alright everyone, no need to worry it's just an Amarr scout :(
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Jathniel
G I A N T General Tso's Alliance
1063
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Posted - 2014.07.02 11:12:00 -
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If you play electronically, you have nothing to fear from the Min Scout; but if you don't play electronically, you'll have everything to fear from the Min Scout. |
The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
3386
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Posted - 2014.07.02 12:40:00 -
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When some 1 sees a min scout they usually fall over dead within a sec. Well they dont really have a role and are by far not as usefull like caldari/gallente scouts cause they can neither see far enough nor can they hide so well. Which is ironically a key part for assasination with nova knifes. |
Tweaksz
Dem Durrty Boyz General Tso's Alliance
111
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Posted - 2014.07.02 13:00:00 -
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lolno
Pill Popping Madness!
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Bright Steel
Tears Of Wars
24
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Posted - 2014.07.02 13:39:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:When some 1 sees a min scout they usually fall over dead within a sec. Well they dont really have a role and are by far not as usefull like caldari/gallente scouts cause they can neither see far enough nor can they hide so well. Which is ironically a key part for assasination with nova knifes.
I run them for their speed. It's not much of a difference and others can do it just as good or better but I also like the race. I don't have the skills to use nova knives so instead I use my speed to my advantage. I never stop moving so other scouts can't catch me. I don't know how many times shot gun scouts try but I'm always just out of their range so all they do is announce their presence and tickle my shields. Then I turn around and we dance; CR vs SG lol
I have a gal scout alt but never use it, the extra rang and armor didn't make much difference to me.
I'm a predator, always on the move, always flanking and pushing weak spots. If the areas too hot I move on. The enemy can't move their clones as fast to respond. When in a squad I do even better pushing ahead and around them.
I love my min scout!
The Best Worst game you can't stop playing..... DUST
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Amuf Oratok
Maphia Clan Corporation
21
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:18:00 -
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I fear to lose too many ISKs if I run proto suits.
YOLAAC: You Only Live As A Clone
Die and Rise
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Morathi III
Policeman of the Federation
133
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:45:00 -
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minmatar scout is fine, perfectly fine |
hashtag yoloswag forever
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:49:00 -
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J8SON wrote:People fear me, I watch it grow. No one fears you scrub |
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
695
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:51:00 -
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Victor889 wrote:Bethhy wrote:The Minmatar Scout has serious serious fitting issues.
Every other suit has next to no problem fitting full proto.. Even the ADV suits fully proto fit..
A Proto Min scout? Like 2 Proto mods the rest is ADV and basic..
The suit had little to no attention payed to it by CCP before implementation and it shows compared to the good work they did on other suits.
Sounds like you need to improve your skills, my proto scout can manage most proto stuff. do you fit plates or kin cats?
"Goddamn it! I have to take out my plasma cannon to kill him cause I can't kill him with my flay lock!"
-Buzz Kill
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
695
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:54:00 -
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Eko Sol wrote:In a PC match it took 7 guys to finally stop me in a city on a five point map. Every time I showed up in the city, Djinn Loki had to come and save all of the heavies and logis that were in the city that I was harassing and destroying.
On another PC, I held an objective, killed a top Cal Scout player, and destroyed two tanks completely solo. It took an ADS, 2 tanks, a great cal scout, and a scrub to stop me. There was one other player helping but, no offense if he reads this since he did pay me to help, he wasn't helping much at all IMO. Gods among men and the hired help Necromongers hired are not a joke so saying I played scrubs is nonsense.
I have, on numerous occasions, held a skirm objective (pub) completely solo against "proto stompers) when On the losing team with my ADV suit let alone proto suit.
I can, with confidence, tell you that I'm not a great player. I'm a good player at best.
I have asked numerous people on the forums to run with me for AV, Scouting, etc. and only two people ever took me up on it. Will Driver (AV) and some guy teaching another guy how to be a scout who was actually relatively good. I had a terrible day in that squad. I was half playing like crap and half bad luck or bad network speed or something b/c damage wasn't registering. What is worse is that there are players that are on the forums who argue with me that leave every match they get in where they are on the enemy team but have no problem playing on the same team. It's a joke.
Anyway, the long story short is that I think the Min Scout is far more dangerous then people are giving it credit. The problem is people want to be slayers too often. I can't tell you how many times I had 2k WP going 4/1.
Personally, the only buff it should get is even more hack speed. The problem is the hack bonus isn't sufficient to keep the min scout in it's "in and out" type role.
I've shared my fits before to a bunch of negative comments. Blows my mind. People still argue with me about putting two complex dampeners on the min scout on ALL STD, ADV, and Proto suits I run. I now use my A-Logi for any assault type stuff I want to do.
I say, no one is scared of the Min scout b/c it's freaking hard to be a good one. But everyone should be scared of any good player regardless of suit. I just so happened to be scared of no suit except for people that play very similar to me or a very, VERY skilled ADS pilots.
OP, you have it right. Harass everyone you can and watch as the whiners make our suit that much better. I hope they buff the hack bonus, biotics, hp, and CPU/PG all at once or whatever it is everyone wants. I would love to be FoTM instead of the so called "underdog". The day you rage quit when we were lagging
Anyways, i hope they just buff the move speed, sprint speed, and reduce the hotbox a little bit
"Goddamn it! I have to take out my plasma cannon to kill him cause I can't kill him with my flay lock!"
-Buzz Kill
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Boot Booter
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
637
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Posted - 2014.07.02 16:54:00 -
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Minmatar scout, like all minmatar suits, take the most skill to be good with, but are deadly in the right hands. The suit doesn't make the player.
SMG Specialist
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Eko Sol
Strange Playings
509
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Posted - 2014.07.02 20:25:00 -
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:The day you rage quit when we were lagging Anyways, i hope they just buff the move speed, sprint speed, and reduce the hotbox a little bit
hahaha, well for the record, I finished the match and just stopped playing. Rage quit, imo, is not finishing a match and quiting midway. But yeah, that match. I was still a top performer despite my complaining...just not as good as I wanted to be.
I have to say, I think the hitbox differences between the scouts is very wrong or not working as intended. I have a feeling that CCP either can't fix it or won't put the resources into it (i.e. as time consuming as bringing jets) so I don't even mention it.
I'll take any buff though. I would love to be able to run it when it is FoTM.
PSN is "Ekopalm"
Playing: Murdered Soul Suspect
WIP: Child of Light, MGS5
Welcome to play with me anytime, message me.
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
699
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Posted - 2014.07.02 22:10:00 -
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Eko Sol wrote:Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:The day you rage quit when we were lagging Anyways, i hope they just buff the move speed, sprint speed, and reduce the hotbox a little bit hahaha, well for the record, I finished the match and just stopped playing. Rage quit, imo, is not finishing a match and quiting midway. But yeah, that match. I was still a top performer despite my complaining...just not as good as I wanted to be. I have to say, I think the hitbox differences between the scouts is very wrong or not working as intended. I have a feeling that CCP either can't fix it or won't put the resources into it (i.e. as time consuming as bringing jets) so I don't even mention it. I'll take any buff though. I would love to be able to run it when it is FoTM. I honestly don't believe it will ever be FoTM, but if it does become it, you can come back into my squad and shout "I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!11!!" as loud as you want on coms lol
"Goddamn it! I have to take out my plasma cannon to kill him cause I can't kill him with my flay lock!"
-Buzz Kill
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Eko Sol
Strange Playings
511
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Posted - 2014.07.02 22:13:00 -
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:Eko Sol wrote:Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:The day you rage quit when we were lagging Anyways, i hope they just buff the move speed, sprint speed, and reduce the hotbox a little bit hahaha, well for the record, I finished the match and just stopped playing. Rage quit, imo, is not finishing a match and quiting midway. But yeah, that match. I was still a top performer despite my complaining...just not as good as I wanted to be. I have to say, I think the hitbox differences between the scouts is very wrong or not working as intended. I have a feeling that CCP either can't fix it or won't put the resources into it (i.e. as time consuming as bringing jets) so I don't even mention it. I'll take any buff though. I would love to be able to run it when it is FoTM. I honestly don't believe it will ever be FoTM, but if it does become it, you can come back into my squad and shout "I TOLD YOU SO!!!!!11!!" as loud as you want on coms lol
Sure, I'll take you up on it. I would be even happier if they would double or triple the hack bonus. Imagine a 75% hack bonus increase!!!! I would take that over anything else. Be able to move in and out of an objective would be so much better than more speed or hp or cpu/pg IMO.
I miss my 1.6 Min Logi with 3 complex hack modules, built in hack bonus, and passive hack bonus.
PSN is "Ekopalm"
Playing: Murdered Soul Suspect
WIP: Child of Light, MGS5
Welcome to play with me anytime, message me.
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
8694
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Posted - 2014.07.02 22:15:00 -
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TBH I only fear proto Cal scout because it's broken hit-box and only fear proto Gal scout because it's broken inherent 3 reps per second that allow it to tank like crazy.
Amarr are the good guys
Their way of the Commando seems right and noble
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Eko Sol
Strange Playings
511
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Posted - 2014.07.02 22:17:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:TBH I only fear proto Cal scout because it's broken hit-box and only fear proto Gal scout because it's broken inherent 3 reps per second that allow it to tank like crazy.
They changed it to 1 hp/s in hotfix Alpha.
PSN is "Ekopalm"
Playing: Murdered Soul Suspect
WIP: Child of Light, MGS5
Welcome to play with me anytime, message me.
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
11502
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Posted - 2014.07.02 22:19:00 -
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I still have nightmares about Mr Mustard and Cyrius Li Moody.
The two greatest scouts to grace the FW warzone for the Minmatar.
Other that that every other Min Scout I have met has either being poor at being sneaky or crippled by how bad a suit it is.
" We need to reclaim their fates and envelop them in ours. And we need to love them, no matter how much it hurts."
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Aero Yassavi
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
8696
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Posted - 2014.07.02 22:20:00 -
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Eko Sol wrote:Aero Yassavi wrote:TBH I only fear proto Cal scout because it's broken hit-box and only fear proto Gal scout because it's broken inherent 3 reps per second that allow it to tank like crazy. They changed it to 1 hp/s in hotfix Alpha. Negative. I'm looking at it in game right now and it is still 3 hp/s. I think they were going to but then all the Gal scouts screamed no.
Amarr are the good guys
Their way of the Commando seems right and noble
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Vicious Minotaur
1030
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Posted - 2014.07.02 22:24:00 -
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The suit is inherently not scary.
The only way to achieve something resembling scariness is if you put certain (you know who they are) mercenaries in them. But even then, those mercs would be scarier in other suits, more or less.
... or, perhaps I'm looking at this all wrong... the suit IS scary, as in the prospect of using such a garbage suit scares me.
I am a minotaur.
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J8SON
Friday Th3 13th
0
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Posted - 2014.07.03 09:37:00 -
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hashtag yoloswag forever wrote:J8SON wrote:People fear me, I watch it grow. No one fears you scrub
That's why the all start spawning heavies and I see them checking every single corner on my radar, scrub. |
Pseudogenesis
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
190
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Posted - 2014.07.03 12:01:00 -
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Sad as it is to say, as a minnie scout main whenever I see another minnie scout I just think "Oh, free food"
Stabby-stabber extraordinaire
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Aria Gomes
The New Age Outlaws Proficiency V.
439
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Posted - 2014.07.03 23:09:00 -
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My only suit with mostly all proto is
Scout mk.0 3 Complex KinCats
Bsc Flux Grenades
Ishukone NKs Ishukone Assault SMG
Adv Precision Enh Complex Shield Ext Enhanced Shield Reg
I think that's my best fit but I'm not sure
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Bormir1r
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
432
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Posted - 2014.07.04 14:23:00 -
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Lynn Beck wrote:About the only time a Minja scares me is when they manage to stick behind me for more than a few seconds while i try and kill them. That's when i freak out and just sprint jump, thrn 180 and 2 burst his 200 shield ass.
Oh. Calscouts? 160 shield somehow takes 6 bursts.
Looks like I need to bring my Min scout against you when we meet again? =P
"One does not simply" run 11.12 m/s.
Oh wait, mk.0 Scouts do it... Oops.
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Bormir1r
Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance
432
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Posted - 2014.07.04 14:25:00 -
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Aria Gomes wrote:My only suit with mostly all proto is
Scout mk.0 3 Complex KinCats
Bsc Flux Grenades
Ishukone NKs Ishukone Assault SMG
Adv Precision Enh Complex Shield Ext Enhanced Shield Reg
I think that's my best fit but I'm not sure
Try this one:
3 Comp. KinCats 1 Com. Shield Ext. 1 Enhanced Shield Ext. 1 Basic Shield Ext. K5 SG Std. SMG Basic Cloak
"One does not simply" run 11.12 m/s.
Oh wait, mk.0 Scouts do it... Oops.
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