360-¦ perma-scans aren't a thing of the past, just grab a Light Frame.

Now available in four different flavors of the month.

360-¦ perma-scans aren't a thing of the past, just grab a Light Frame.

Now available in four different flavors of the month.

After scanners were fixed, there was an uproar that they had become useless. Even though most have moved on I still see the occasional post disliking them. I'm just wondering why?

I use them all the time and find them immensely useful. If there's a problem tank, scan it. Enemy entrenched at an objective, scan it. No results except for a margin of error, I know there's a scout in the area. Not even mentioning how hilarious it is watching a floating chevron dart around in panic as they get scanned.

Just because 360 perma-scans are a thing of the past, doesn't make them useless. I believe they are in a good place, requiring good timing and judgement to operate effectively. I have to pay attention to the battle and decide if it is worth scanning, does the flow allow me to miss a scan without compromising my squad? How long since the enemy was terminated and are they respawning? A second too early and we get instantly surrounded as they spawn in (granted general awareness nullifies that mostly).

Maybe it's because I'm Lvl5 GalLogi that I am of this opinion, but even on my BPO MinLogi I find even an ADV scanner just as useful.

People will complain about anything that counters their FoTM.

360-¦ perma-scans aren't a thing of the past, just grab a Light Frame.

Now available in three different flavors of the month.

Ah Atiim, forever the smart arse

True. CalScouts have full vision, but isn't that what they are designed for? I dabble as a Lvl3 GalScout
and even after the cloak and bonus nerf, I can still effectively hide from most scans, bar CalScout. Again, isn't that by design? The fact that a "seer" unit sees me (regardless of my suit) isn't an issue for me.

If my squad happens to have a CalScout I make it so he can scout more effectively. By scanning the enemies he lights up, he gains more freedom to move away from the pack to flank/move on ahead.

I may be full of ****. As I said I only dabble in scouting, but until I'm otherwise convinced I stick by my words.

Active scanners useful, CalScouts working by design.

If you can't hide from a Cal scout... you're doing it wrong

Also, I think Atiim is alluding to the fact that come hotfix Charlie there are going to be 3 different scouts capable of permaradar

After scanners were fixed, there was an uproar that they had become useless. Even though most have moved on I still see the occasional post disliking them. I'm just wondering why?

I use them all the time and find them immensely useful. If there's a problem tank, scan it. Enemy entrenched at an objective, scan it. No results except for a margin of error, I know there's a scout in the area. Not even mentioning how hilarious it is watching a floating chevron dart around in panic as they get scanned.

Just because 360 perma-scans are a thing of the past, doesn't make them useless. I believe they are in a good place, requiring good timing and judgement to operate effectively. I have to pay attention to the battle and decide if it is worth scanning, does the flow allow me to miss a scan without compromising my squad? How long since the enemy was terminated and are they respawning? A second too early and we get instantly surrounded as they spawn in (granted general awareness nullifies that mostly).

Maybe it's because I'm Lvl5 GalLogi that I am of this opinion, but even on my BPO MinLogi I find even an ADV scanner just as useful.

Why bother with active scanners when passive is just better?
I have a lv.5 gal logi, i use the scanner, i've also a lv.5 gal scout, even if they have nerfed my range i'm more aware of my sorroundings with it and it's more useful when my team have to launch orbitals.

Passive scan should not be shared, then active would have a sense, not for scout of course, somebody has decided that they are allowed to be radar invisible for active scanner but not for passive.

Ah Atiim, forever the smart arse

True. CalScouts have full vision, but isn't that what they are designed for? I dabble as a Lvl3 GalScout
and even after the cloak and bonus nerf, I can still effectively hide from most scans, bar CalScout. Again, isn't that by design? The fact that a "seer" unit sees me (regardless of my suit) isn't an issue for me.

If my squad happens to have a CalScout I make it so he can scout more effectively. By scanning the enemies he lights up, he gains more freedom to move away from the pack to flank/move on ahead.

I may be full of ****. As I said I only dabble in scouting, but until I'm otherwise convinced I stick by my words.

Active scanners useful, CalScouts working by design.

Some of my Amarr Assault suits use active scanners. Since mobility isn't their forte the ability to check flanks for incoming heavies is very useful.

Generally I think active scanners are in a great spot. If scouts were less popular with the slayer folks we would see a lot more active scanners in the field. Just wait until after the Assault buff. More medium frames in the field equals more popularity for the active scanner.