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Scar Scrilla
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.06.28 12:52:00 -
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I'm really overwhelmed by the power of the CalScout. Having played GallScout for months now, i skilled into basic CalScout out of curiosity cuz some ppl on the forums complain about it being OP. I run it with Adv. Rail Rifle and Basic Remotes.
It's so much fun it's hardly bearable. Killing Adv and Protosuits in a Basic suit with Adv weapon really is funny. Passive scan is more than useful. I have to admit though, that bullets don't seem to hit me most of the time (or is it the strafe-tap dance, I dunno), but maybe I'm just lucky.
Of course i have to flank and can't face Heavies face-to-face, but i assume that's not a scout's way to play. Anyway a fine counter against the alleged OPness of Heavies (unless you run Heavy yourself), lots of fun and I'm really looking forward to skill CalScout to Proto lvl. Way better than the GallScout imho.
o7 Scar
"Si tacuisses, philosophus mansisses"
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
15012
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Posted - 2014.06.28 13:22:00 -
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The shield regen is fantastic too.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Polka will never die.
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars
Amarr Empire
2822
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Posted - 2014.06.28 14:19:00 -
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So, are you saying they're good or broken, or so broken that they're godly? |
DEATH THE KlD
Harem. King
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Posted - 2014.06.28 14:22:00 -
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Everyone should run assault suits. |
The dark cloud
The Rainbow Effect
3342
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Posted - 2014.06.28 14:28:00 -
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Hit detection is broken on it and no it has nothing to do with strafing. Cause by that logic the minmatarr scout would be near unkillable which is not the case cause they fall over dead allmost instantly when you start shoting. |
2Berries
Ghosts of Dawn
General Tso's Alliance
184
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Posted - 2014.06.28 15:39:00 -
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Welcome to the party!
I am the cool.
Shamma lamma mu mu
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
3167
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Posted - 2014.06.28 15:46:00 -
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The only "advantage" a cal scout has on other suits is the passive scan. Everything else is as intended. Base speed and movement is the same as the gal scout. It's supposed to have a faster regen for shields because it's caldari. Slot layout is opposite of the gal scout. I mean...the suit doesn't turn you into God. The only thing is the racial bonus is different.....but the hard counter to that is dampeners or the gal scout.
Of note: There is no hard counter to the gal scout's racial bonus.
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CUSE TOWN333
KILL-EM-QUICK
RISE of LEGION
747
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Posted - 2014.06.28 16:19:00 -
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yeah the suit is broken OP and should never have been put in the game. its funny to see all the scrubs with no gun game think all of a sudden they got good.
The clever combatant imposes his will on the enemy, but does not allow the enemy"s will to be imposed upon him. Sun Tzu
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
New Age Empire.
1576
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Posted - 2014.06.28 16:30:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:Hit detection is broken on it and no it has nothing to do with strafing. Cause by that logic the minmatarr scout would be near unkillable which is not the case cause they fall over dead allmost instantly when you start shoting.
Welcome to the stupid peolles club, because you believe it's hit box is different.
I tried shooting a min scout and got no damage, so stop.
Closed beta vet.
If bo burnham was on my little pony: friendship is magic
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
672
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Posted - 2014.06.28 16:35:00 -
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jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:The dark cloud wrote:Hit detection is broken on it and no it has nothing to do with strafing. Cause by that logic the minmatarr scout would be near unkillable which is not the case cause they fall over dead allmost instantly when you start shoting. Welcome to the stupid peolles club, because you believe it's hit box is different. I tried shooting a min scout and got no damage, so stop.
Well then you just need better aim 
"Goddamn it! I have to take out my plasma cannon to kill him cause I can't kill him with my flay lock!"
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sabre prime
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
281
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Posted - 2014.06.28 16:52:00 -
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Has it been proven that the hitbox on the caldari scout is broken? Has it been acknowledged by CCP?
I have a cal scout alt, and I just don't see what the fuss is. It's scanning is good and it requires a different playstyle, but I die the same as in any of my other suits. What's the secret to fitting the suit?
Desperate attempt to get BPOs
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Baal Omniscient
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
1845
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Posted - 2014.06.28 16:58:00 -
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Unfortunately there is no hard counter to a shotgun up the ass from a player who can see everything on their radar whom you cannon see, hear or scan. And when you DO manage to see one due to someone on YOUR team running one, their broken hitboxes make them neigh impossible to land shots on.
F that.
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Cross Atu for CPM1
Winmatar Assault & Proficiency 5 Swarms Since Uprising 1.0
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Tectonic Fusion
1791
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Posted - 2014.06.28 17:28:00 -
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Scar Scrilla wrote:Of course i have to flank and can't face Heavies face-to-face, but i assume that's not a scout's way to play.
Wrong. That's the only way to play unless the opponent is a scrub of is not tanked.
EDIT: Comfirmed a long time ago the shotgun hit detection is broken and always has been, and has been improved a little bit, and comfirmed I am a caldari scout who gets destroyed by Plasma Assault Rifles and Scrambler Tactical Rifles.
EDIT 2: If you want to shotgun someone who can see you and you have cover, use kin cats (pro tip).
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Scar Scrilla
Kameira Lodge
Amarr Empire
233
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Posted - 2014.06.28 17:46:00 -
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CUSE TOWN333 wrote:yeah the suit is broken OP and should never have been put in the game. its funny to see all the scrubs with no gun game think all of a sudden they got good.
Well I got good way before using CalScout. I just wanted to try it out and it's just a good suit with a nice bonus
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Bethhy
Ancient Exiles.
General Tso's Alliance
2026
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Posted - 2014.06.28 17:47:00 -
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The dark cloud wrote:Hit detection is broken on it and no it has nothing to do with strafing. Cause by that logic the minmatarr scout would be near unkillable which is not the case cause they fall over dead allmost instantly when you start shoting.
Minmatar suits have the biggest hit box... It was how they balanced the speed in the old days, When people actually had to aim for themselves.
Caldari have really tiny hit boxes.
Mix in the fact that a cal scout is almost never running anything armor related is naturally dark and blends into surroundings.. unlike all the other scouts...
Its just a collection of small things that make it a strong suit. |
Shiyou Hidiyoshi
Ancient Exiles.
839
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Posted - 2014.06.28 17:55:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:The dark cloud wrote:Hit detection is broken on it and no it has nothing to do with strafing. Cause by that logic the minmatarr scout would be near unkillable which is not the case cause they fall over dead allmost instantly when you start shoting. Minmatar suits have the biggest hit box... It was how they balanced the speed in the old days, When people actually had to aim for themselves. Caldari have really tiny hit boxes. Mix in the fact that a cal scout is almost never running anything armor related is naturally dark and blends into surroundings.. unlike all the other scouts... Its just a collection of small things that make it a strong suit.
No one here will ever mention how a SCR can two shot a max shielded Cal Scout.
Cal scout is strong and Assaults are weak. The Gal scout is also strong because it is the opposite to the Cal. Gal scouts can be very fast heavies with 2 equipment slots, and damped. You can find Gal scouts with a **** loud of HP, it is a fast damped heavy.
Many things are broken
I want my Assault suit to be dusted off but I'll have to wait another 3 months most likely.
Wait... scratch that... Logis were better than Assaults now Scouts are better than Assaults at being assaults. I doubt Assaults will ever be the best choice... to be an assault. |
Gooseman Manwhore
CREATURES OF THE NIGHT
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Posted - 2014.06.28 19:28:00 -
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Shiyou Hidiyoshi wrote:
Wait... scratch that... Logis were better than Assaults now Scouts are better than Assaults at being assaults. I doubt Assaults will ever be the best choice... to be an assault.
We can still dream
I put the sexi in dyslexia
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Ydubbs81 RND
Ahrendee Mercenaries
3174
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Posted - 2014.06.28 19:29:00 -
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Baal Omniscient wrote:Unfortunately there is no hard counter to a shotgun up the ass from a player who can see everything on their radar whom you cannon see, hear or scan. And when you DO manage to see one due to someone on YOUR team running one, their broken hitboxes make them neigh impossible to land shots on.
F that.
That counter is the gal scout. There is nothing that a cal scout can do for a dampened gal scout. And it isn't just the gal scout either.....a dampened min scout can be undetectable by precision enhanced cal scout as well.
All of those cloaked, dampened, scouts with shotguns are the ones to be pissed at.....the cal scout is the savior but is still ineffective against some of them.
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Cyrius Li-Moody
0uter.Heaven
5942
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Posted - 2014.06.28 19:35:00 -
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In pubs it's easy to do well with a cal scout because nobody coordinates. In a match where people now how to counter a cal scout you're fodder just like everyone else. The gal scout is arguably better in a competitive environment. Min scout can also circumvent a cal scout.
Seriously, go run your cal scout in a PC. You'll get ganked by Gal scouts all day. Cal scout is not the top of scout food chain.
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Tectonic Fusion
1793
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Posted - 2014.06.28 19:37:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:In pubs it's easy to do well with a cal scout because nobody coordinates. In a match where people now how to counter a cal scout you're fodder just like everyone else. The gal scout is arguably better in a competitive environment. Min scout can also circumvent a cal scout.
Seriously, go run your cal scout in a PC. You'll get ganked by Gal scouts all day. Cal scout is not the top of scout food chain.
Yup...
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Benjamin Ciscko
The Last of DusT.
General Tso's Alliance
2384
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Posted - 2014.06.28 19:42:00 -
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Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:In pubs it's easy to do well with a cal scout because nobody coordinates. In a match where people now how to counter a cal scout you're fodder just like everyone else. The gal scout is arguably better in a competitive environment. Min scout can also circumvent a cal scout.
Seriously, go run your cal scout in a PC. You'll get ganked by Gal scouts all day. Cal scout is not the top of scout food chain.
I wonder why all the best slayers in the game uses them then.
Tanker/Logi
0 The number of 7ucks given
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jerrmy12 kahoalii
New Age Empire.
1578
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Posted - 2014.06.28 19:49:00 -
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:jerrmy12 kahoalii wrote:The dark cloud wrote:Hit detection is broken on it and no it has nothing to do with strafing. Cause by that logic the minmatarr scout would be near unkillable which is not the case cause they fall over dead allmost instantly when you start shoting. Welcome to the stupid peolles club, because you believe it's hit box is different. I tried shooting a min scout and got no damage, so stop. Well then you just need better aim
Lol, telling me I ned better aim.
Closed beta vet.
If bo burnham was on my little pony: friendship is magic
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
676
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Posted - 2014.06.28 21:39:00 -
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Bethhy wrote:The dark cloud wrote:Hit detection is broken on it and no it has nothing to do with strafing. Cause by that logic the minmatarr scout would be near unkillable which is not the case cause they fall over dead allmost instantly when you start shoting. Minmatar suits have the biggest hit box... It was how they balanced the speed in the old days, When people actually had to aim for themselves. Caldari have really tiny hit boxes. Mix in the fact that a cal scout is almost never running anything armor related is naturally dark and blends into surroundings.. unlike all the other scouts... Its just a collection of small things that make it a strong suit.
THAT explains why its so much easier to strafe in my cal suit than my minja...Im gonna have to test this
"Goddamn it! I have to take out my plasma cannon to kill him cause I can't kill him with my flay lock!"
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Heimdallr69
Nyain San
2639
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Posted - 2014.06.29 02:04:00 -
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Benjamin Ciscko wrote:Cyrius Li-Moody wrote:In pubs it's easy to do well with a cal scout because nobody coordinates. In a match where people now how to counter a cal scout you're fodder just like everyone else. The gal scout is arguably better in a competitive environment. Min scout can also circumvent a cal scout.
Seriously, go run your cal scout in a PC. You'll get ganked by Gal scouts all day. Cal scout is not the top of scout food chain. I wonder why all the best slayers in the game uses them then.
I wouldn't say I'm the best but I'd say I'm up there.. And the only dropsuits I have are assault.
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