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Louis Domi PRadox One Proficiency V. 389	Posted - 2014.06.26 03:43:00 - [1] - Quote So winning an ambush, When the enemy pulls out only heavies, they come back on us and all you see on the kill feed is Hmg's Not saying this is a bad thing.... but you guys might wanna ease off... I can sense a Nerf coming soon... On hmg and heavy HP... How much you guys wanna bet?.. Oh I can kinda also see a nerf in cal scouts...(Everything overused and widely complained about is gonna be nerfed...) Personaly I hate you heavies... I just hate you, I do mean offence by that... But seriously I'd just hate to see you guys nerfed after all those months of being obsolete... I mean you guys were pretty kick ass in open beta, and I liked you more back then... Maybe the gal heavy can get nerfed, but thats just because I REALLY Hate gallente more so than heavies... Again I do mean offence by that. So yeah... Ease up... And i hate you guys... Not as much as I hate Gallente, but hate still the same
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy 1507	Posted - 2014.06.26 03:49:00 - [2] - Quote I like heavies in ambush easier to track with mah LR Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Louis Domi PRadox One Proficiency V. 389	Posted - 2014.06.26 03:56:00 - [3] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: I like heavies in ambush easier to track with mah LR Not an open spaced area(Don't see too much heavies on these maps), but in the close quaters maps, with the indoor stuff... they are around every corner just sitting there looking smug with their Hmg's getting their asses tucked with 1000+ armor, with a logi who should be tending to his other companions injuries, but he sticks with the cash cow heavy sucking on his **** trying to get those 25 triage points.... God I hate them.... On a seperate note I like how my post turned from a warning to a hate rant and from a hate rant to total Gal racism....
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy 1510	Posted - 2014.06.26 04:16:00 - [4] - Quote Louis Domi wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: I like heavies in ambush easier to track with mah LR Not an open spaced area(Don't see too much heavies on these maps), but in the close quaters maps, with the indoor stuff... they are around every corner just sitting there looking smug with their Hmg's getting their asses tucked with 1000+ armor, with a logi who should be tending to his other companions injuries, but he sticks with the cash cow heavy sucking on his **** trying to get those 25 triage points.... God I hate them.... On a seperate note I like how my post turned from a warning to a hate rant and from a hate rant to total Gal racism.... To be fair CQC areas are the heavies forte and I'm sure the logis rep the heavy because if the heavy goes down they're next. Even so if its a CQC situation I'll bust out my heavy or swap to my AScR/LR commando. Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Louis Domi PRadox One Proficiency V. 391	Posted - 2014.06.26 04:19:00 - [5] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Louis Domi wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: I like heavies in ambush easier to track with mah LR Not an open spaced area(Don't see too much heavies on these maps), but in the close quaters maps, with the indoor stuff... they are around every corner just sitting there looking smug with their Hmg's getting their asses tucked with 1000+ armor, with a logi who should be tending to his other companions injuries, but he sticks with the cash cow heavy sucking on his **** trying to get those 25 triage points.... God I hate them.... On a seperate note I like how my post turned from a warning to a hate rant and from a hate rant to total Gal racism.... To be fair CQC areas are the heavies forte and I'm sure the logis rep the heavy because if the heavy goes down they're next. Even so if its a CQC situation I'll bust out my heavy or swap to my AScR/LR commando. I know the problem isn't that I think they are OP, I'm just saying as they are, with the spamming of heavies(I see about 10 on a battle field in many games) there is going to be a heavy nerf, I'm just warning them... also theres a little hate in that too...
Mikey Ducati Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 93	Posted - 2014.06.26 04:19:00 - [6] - Quote The nerf is happening regardless. I've read somewhere that games of this nature needs the hardcore players to play but its lifeblood are the weaker, newer players. Games like these always cater to them because they are the ones who bring in the money while vet players are already set in where they want to be, which includes cost effectiveness. I see a nerf inbound coupled with assault buffs
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy 1511	Posted - 2014.06.26 04:23:00 - [7] - Quote Mikey Ducati wrote: The nerf is happening regardless. I've read somewhere that games of this nature needs the hardcore players to play but its lifeblood are the weaker, newer players. Games like these always cater to them because they are the ones who bring in the money while vet players are already set in where they want to be, which includes cost effectiveness. I see a nerf inbound coupled with assault buffs If it happens at all it will be very slight as CCP Rattati has explicitly stated that he likes the HMG as it is currently Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Louis Domi PRadox One Proficiency V. 391	Posted - 2014.06.26 04:25:00 - [8] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Mikey Ducati wrote: The nerf is happening regardless. I've read somewhere that games of this nature needs the hardcore players to play but its lifeblood are the weaker, newer players. Games like these always cater to them because they are the ones who bring in the money while vet players are already set in where they want to be, which includes cost effectiveness. I see a nerf inbound coupled with assault buffs If it happens at all it will be very slight as CCP Rattati has explicitly stated that he likes the HMG as it is currently Rattati does seem like a very Competent Dev, but regardless Most likely a nerf will happen, either to heavies or their weapon
Mikey Ducati Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 93	Posted - 2014.06.26 04:28:00 - [9] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Mikey Ducati wrote: The nerf is happening regardless. I've read somewhere that games of this nature needs the hardcore players to play but its lifeblood are the weaker, newer players. Games like these always cater to them because they are the ones who bring in the money while vet players are already set in where they want to be, which includes cost effectiveness. I see a nerf inbound coupled with assault buffs If it happens at all it will be very slight as CCP Rattati has explicitly stated that he likes the HMG as it is currently True indeed. CCP Rattati has expressed such.
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy 1511	Posted - 2014.06.26 04:29:00 - [10] - Quote Louis Domi wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Mikey Ducati wrote: The nerf is happening regardless. I've read somewhere that games of this nature needs the hardcore players to play but its lifeblood are the weaker, newer players. Games like these always cater to them because they are the ones who bring in the money while vet players are already set in where they want to be, which includes cost effectiveness. I see a nerf inbound coupled with assault buffs If it happens at all it will be very slight as CCP Rattati has explicitly stated that he likes the HMG as it is currently Rattati does seem like a very Competent Dev, but regardless Most likely a nerf will happen, either to heavies or their weapon CCP Ratttati said IF it gets nerfed at all it would probably be overheat aka people would have to aim and not spray EDIT:The suit is fine and has multiple counters if you know what you're doing Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r

Mikey Ducati Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 93	Posted - 2014.06.26 04:30:00 - [11] - Quote Louis Domi wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Mikey Ducati wrote: The nerf is happening regardless. I've read somewhere that games of this nature needs the hardcore players to play but its lifeblood are the weaker, newer players. Games like these always cater to them because they are the ones who bring in the money while vet players are already set in where they want to be, which includes cost effectiveness. I see a nerf inbound coupled with assault buffs If it happens at all it will be very slight as CCP Rattati has explicitly stated that he likes the HMG as it is currently Rattati does seem like a very Competent Dev, but regardless Most likely a nerf will happen, either to heavies or their weapon I think it will be both eHP and HMG. Assaults will make a comeback.
Mikey Ducati Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 93	Posted - 2014.06.26 04:31:00 - [12] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Louis Domi wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Mikey Ducati wrote: The nerf is happening regardless. I've read somewhere that games of this nature needs the hardcore players to play but its lifeblood are the weaker, newer players. Games like these always cater to them because they are the ones who bring in the money while vet players are already set in where they want to be, which includes cost effectiveness. I see a nerf inbound coupled with assault buffs If it happens at all it will be very slight as CCP Rattati has explicitly stated that he likes the HMG as it is currently Rattati does seem like a very Competent Dev, but regardless Most likely a nerf will happen, either to heavies or their weapon CCP Ratttati said IF it gets nerfed at all it would probably be overheat aka people would have to aim and not spray When the minority becomes a majority, they will change it. They want to keep the players satisfied after FF. And there are a bunch of new players coming around. The newer, weaker players decide the course of the game. If they getting killed too much, then change will happen to compensate.
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy 1511	Posted - 2014.06.26 04:35:00 - [13] - Quote Mikey Ducati wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Louis Domi wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Mikey Ducati wrote: The nerf is happening regardless. I've read somewhere that games of this nature needs the hardcore players to play but its lifeblood are the weaker, newer players. Games like these always cater to them because they are the ones who bring in the money while vet players are already set in where they want to be, which includes cost effectiveness. I see a nerf inbound coupled with assault buffs If it happens at all it will be very slight as CCP Rattati has explicitly stated that he likes the HMG as it is currently Rattati does seem like a very Competent Dev, but regardless Most likely a nerf will happen, either to heavies or their weapon CCP Ratttati said IF it gets nerfed at all it would probably be overheat aka people would have to aim and not spray When the minority becomes a majority, they will change it. They want to keep the players satisfied after FF. And there are a bunch of new players coming around. The newer, weaker players decide the course of the game. If they getting killed too much, then change will happen to compensate. The heavy has been my bread and butter since closed beta. rest assured I WILL NOT allow heavies to become the laughing stock they were in Uprising 1.0-1.7 Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Louis Domi PRadox One Proficiency V. 394	Posted - 2014.06.26 04:37:00 - [14] - Quote [/quote] rest assured I WILL NOT allow heavies to become the laughing stock they were in Uprising 1.0-1.7[/quote] We can only hope...
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy 1513	Posted - 2014.06.26 04:41:00 - [15] - Quote Louis Domi wrote: rest assured I WILL NOT allow heavies to become the laughing stock they were in Uprising 1.0-1.7[/quote] We can only hope... [/quote] All we can do is trust in CCP Rattati's wisdom and rationality CCP Rattati wrote: I like the deadliness of a heavy hmg as it is right now. If we were to reduce its efficiency in a future hotfix, it would most likely be to heat since that rewards skill and not spray and pray. Improving the assault is then my preferred counter to heavies, not nerfing heavies, most likely through racial tanking improvements, pure damage output and regen. Just my general thoughts on the subject. Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Mikey Ducati Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 93	Posted - 2014.06.26 04:49:00 - [16] - Quote I know what he wrote but I wouldn't put all my eggs in one basket. At one time we were to get jets, bikes, drones, players' market and more maps. Now we are getting none of those. I would be careful of leaning too hard on CCP's word here.
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy 1513	Posted - 2014.06.26 04:51:00 - [17] - Quote Mikey Ducati wrote: I know what he wrote but I wouldn't put all my eggs in one basket. At one time we were to get jets, bikes, drones, players' market and more maps. Now we are getting none of those. I would be careful of leaning too hard on CCP's word here. Trust me, if ya look at mah sig my eggs are in ALL baskets... racial omnisoldier FTW :3 Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Mikey Ducati Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 94	Posted - 2014.06.26 04:52:00 - [18] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Mikey Ducati wrote: I know what he wrote but I wouldn't put all my eggs in one basket. At one time we were to get jets, bikes, drones, players' market and more maps. Now we are getting none of those. I would be careful of leaning too hard on CCP's word here. Trust me, if ya look at mah sig my eggs are in ALL baskets... racial omnisoldier FTW :3 Okay, I can respect that.
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy 1515	Posted - 2014.06.26 05:14:00 - [19] - Quote Mikey Ducati wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Mikey Ducati wrote: I know what he wrote but I wouldn't put all my eggs in one basket. At one time we were to get jets, bikes, drones, players' market and more maps. Now we are getting none of those. I would be careful of leaning too hard on CCP's word here. Trust me, if ya look at mah sig my eggs are in ALL baskets... racial omnisoldier FTW :3 Okay, I can respect that. It gives me the ability to adapt to whatever the reds try to throw at me. No matter the situation I am able to counter it. I am the instrument of my God's and my Empress's divine judgement on the infidels and heretics who would dare defy my holy empire Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
VALCORE72 BATTLE SURVEY GROUP Dark Taboo 185	Posted - 2014.06.26 07:20:00 - [20] - Quote ive been a pure heavy flr a long time . im telln you the sp costs are all wrong . thats way see too much of some suits . shouldnt cost the same as a assault suit to spec in to .

vlad stoich NoGameNoLife 143	Posted - 2014.06.26 07:48:00 - [21] - Quote Louis Domi wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: I like heavies in ambush easier to track with mah LR Not an open spaced area(Don't see too much heavies on these maps), but in the close quaters maps, with the indoor stuff... they are around every corner just sitting there looking smug with their Hmg's getting their asses tucked with 1000+ armor, with a logi who should be tending to his other companions injuries, but he sticks with the cash cow heavy sucking on his **** trying to get those 25 triage points.... God I hate them.... On a seperate note I like how my post turned from a warning to a hate rant and from a hate rant to total Gal racism.... The butthurt is strong in this one. Keep fillin up those cups with those tears. On a side note, very original post. I have never seen a b!tch post about heavies or HMGs before. Goodonya for being unique.
vlad stoich NoGameNoLife 143	Posted - 2014.06.26 07:50:00 - [22] - Quote Mikey Ducati wrote: The nerf is happening regardless. I've read somewhere that games of this nature needs the hardcore players to play but its lifeblood are the weaker, newer players. Games like these always cater to them because they are the ones who bring in the money while vet players are already set in where they want to be, which includes cost effectiveness. I see a nerf inbound coupled with assault buffs lol lay off the crack if you think this game is bringing in a lot of money. I am willing to bet that the vets who have been playing WOULD have sank more cash into it had it not been for that fateful day.
DeathwindRising ROGUE RELICS 377	Posted - 2014.06.26 08:15:00 - [23] - Quote Louis Domi wrote: So winning an ambush, When the enemy pulls out only heavies, they come back on us and all you see on the kill feed is Hmg's Not saying this is a bad thing.... but you guys might wanna ease off... I can sense a Nerf coming soon... On hmg and heavy HP... How much you guys wanna bet?.. Oh I can kinda also see a nerf in cal scouts...(Everything overused and widely complained about is gonna be nerfed...) Personaly I hate you heavies... I just hate you, I do mean offence by that... But seriously I'd just hate to see you guys nerfed after all those months of being obsolete... I mean you guys were pretty kick ass in open beta, and I liked you more back then... Maybe the gal heavy can get nerfed, but thats just because I REALLY Hate gallente more so than heavies... Again I do mean offence by that. So yeah... Ease up... And i hate you guys... Not as much as I hate Gallente, but hate still the same the problem there was you your team should have moved out into open space. heavies/hmg are useless out in the open. nobody said you had to fight indoors. every map has areas of open space, even the cramped ones
Monkey MAC Rough Riders.. 2932	Posted - 2014.06.26 09:19:00 - [24] - Quote Ok so let me get this straight OP You are complaining about heavies using HMG's in Ambush matches. The short range close quarters ambush matches? Are you complaing about the brick tanked ones who have no support and die to concemtrated fire? Or the buffer tank ones who are utilising a teammate to achieve ridiculous rep speeds on the front line? I'll let you gather statisitics and what have you in order to start a rebuke, but Ambush matches pretty much all take place at HMG range, it would be stupid not to use a HMG or Shotgun or Mass Driver in a standard Ambush! My suit's a bit rusty, but that could just as easily be me! Monkey Mac - Swinging from the Rooftops Forum Warrior Lvl2
BDiD HEAVY LOGISTIC OPERATIONS 14	Posted - 2014.06.26 11:07:00 - [25] - Quote Louis Domi wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Louis Domi wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: I like heavies in ambush easier to track with mah LR Not an open spaced area(Don't see too much heavies on these maps), but in the close quaters maps, with the indoor stuff... they are around every corner just sitting there looking smug with their Hmg's getting their asses tucked with 1000+ armor, with a logi who should be tending to his other companions injuries, but he sticks with the cash cow heavy sucking on his **** trying to get those 25 triage points.... God I hate them.... On a seperate note I like how my post turned from a warning to a hate rant and from a hate rant to total Gal racism.... To be fair CQC areas are the heavies forte and I'm sure the logis rep the heavy because if the heavy goes down they're next. Even so if its a CQC situation I'll bust out my heavy or swap to my AScR/LR commando. I know the problem isn't that I think they are OP, I'm just saying as they are, with the spamming of heavies(I see about 10 on a battle field in many games) there is going to be a heavy nerf, I'm just warning them... also theres a little hate in that too... You're not wrong. I've been playing 17 months and the heavy spam needs to stop. It's why ppl use remotes. Screw those heavy guys with 1200 armor. Shgn remote, dead. Then pro logi til they come back. I hope they get a nerf. Not cause they need it, just cause the 8,000 isk hmg fits. That's bull. Heavy spam is alive. CCP, kill it.
Derpty Derp It's All Gone Derp 190	Posted - 2014.06.26 11:15:00 - [26] - Quote Just drop the turn speed of heavies already... I say this being a forge gunner and well I'm pretty sure I'll still be able to hit stuff.
Justice Prevails 263	Posted - 2014.06.26 12:42:00 - [27] - Quote Not a true heavy, just pull it out when needed. Like where they are now though. This game is just better when heavies are feared. Don't want to see them needed into obscurity. If they do get t the hammer, prefer it to be the previously mentioned heat build-up. The only time I see the spam as a problem is in the CQC domination maps. But those are just as likely to be RE and grenade spammed too. All other situations, you can pick your battles. There is nothing funnier to me than watching one those fat f*krs try to run across an open terrain. That's when I say to my rail rifle, "Look, he thinks he's going to make it". Embracing my inner scrub since 2013.
TechMechMeds Inner.Hell 3696	Posted - 2014.06.26 12:55:00 - [28] - Quote Anything spammed is op though. What use is there in nerfing it, then it'd be scout spam. So when heavies and scouts get nerfed, there will be a new spam with a new QQ. Sources - seen it happen over and over again for a year and a half now. Heavies are at least slow. I will spam your face with aurum proto.
TechMechMeds Inner.Hell 3696	Posted - 2014.06.26 12:57:00 - [29] - Quote Justice Prevails wrote: Not a true heavy, just pull it out when needed. Like where they are now though. This game is just better when heavies are feared. Don't want to see them needed into obscurity. If they do get t the hammer, prefer it to be the previously mentioned heat build-up. The only time I see the spam as a problem is in the CQC domination maps. But those are just as likely to be RE and grenade spammed too. All other situations, you can pick your battles. There is nothing funnier to me than watching one those fat f*krs try to run across an open terrain. That's when I say to my rail rifle, "Look, he thinks he's going to make it". What do you think heavies feel for the hordes of militia gear scrubs who repeatedly try to 1v1 heavies, the source of most of this heavy QQ. I will spam your face with aurum proto.
Justice Prevails 263	Posted - 2014.06.26 13:18:00 - [30] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Justice Prevails wrote: Not a true heavy, just pull it out when needed. Like where they are now though. This game is just better when heavies are feared. Don't want to see them needed into obscurity. If they do get t the hammer, prefer it to be the previously mentioned heat build-up. The only time I see the spam as a problem is in the CQC domination maps. But those are just as likely to be RE and grenade spammed too. All other situations, you can pick your battles. There is nothing funnier to me than watching one those fat f*krs try to run across an open terrain. That's when I say to my rail rifle, "Look, he thinks he's going to make it". What do you think heavies feel for the hordes of militia gear scrubs who repeatedly try to 1v1 heavies, the source of most of this heavy QQ. Completely agree. A heavy should only die in that situation because he was laughing so hard, he forgot to shoot. As far as the QQ, CCP is holding an event where it will be open season on the militia guys. Don't know if devs really care about them. Embracing my inner scrub since 2013.



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