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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:

True Adamance wrote:

Buwaro Draemon wrote:

Like I don't need to tell you guys what is wrong with FW. Not enough players.

And this is why we don't get ISK at then end of FW matches. Only a very small payout of LP which is ridiculous.

I would like to see Rattati approach this in some way. Increase LP payouts and decrease LP store ISK item costs or bring ISK also to FW. I just want to see FW alive again.

But it seems impossible since we have to wait 5 minutes+ just to get in one. And it has been this way ever since it launched in Uprising 1.0

Sure back then it had ISK payouts but everyone skipped it and went straight to pubs.

LPs and the LP store makes FW appeal a little bit more. But it really means nothing when you get payed such little and loose a lot of ISK doing so.

You guys have any other ideas to bring FW to life?

Have some ******* loyalty?

I dunno?

I tried queuing for Amarr FW two hours before DT.

I ended up waiting for half an hour before I just went and played pubs.

Even in EVE Oceanic TZ is dead, you just deal with it.

Which is another way of saying 'loyalty be damned, I can't get into a match even if I want to'.

" Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III

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Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Final Resolution. 227	Posted - 2014.06.26 03:28:00 - [1] - Quote Like I don't need to tell you guys what is wrong with FW. Not enough players. And this is why we don't get ISK at then end of FW matches. Only a very small payout of LP which is ridiculous. I would like to see Rattati approach this in some way. Increase LP payouts and decrease LP store ISK item costs or bring ISK also to FW. I just want to see FW alive again. But it seems impossible since we have to wait 5 minutes+ just to get in one. And it has been this way ever since it launched in Uprising 1.0 Sure back then it had ISK payouts but everyone skipped it and went straight to pubs. LPs and the LP store makes FW appeal a little bit more. But it really means nothing when you get payed such little and loose a lot of ISK doing so. You guys have any other ideas to bring FW to life? If you are a scout and you only use EWAR then you have my salutes o7 END THE TYRANNY OF BRINK TANKED SCOUTS
Taylor Badasz 178	Posted - 2014.06.26 03:32:00 - [2] - Quote lol soon Lazer focused...
Atiim NoGameNoLife 9862	Posted - 2014.06.26 03:41:00 - [3] - Quote Buwaro Draemon wrote: You guys have any other ideas to bring FW to life? Hmm.. Increase LP Payout Give significant LP payouts to those who lose Add missing gear to LP Store(s). That should do it. NoLifing DUST for the Officer Swarm Launcher. "Many things in life are subjective, morality is one of them..." -HAND
xgodzilla74x Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5	Posted - 2014.06.26 03:43:00 - [4] - Quote There's no other reason to play FW except for the LP points, so please increase the payouts I'll make ya' famous
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Final Resolution. 227	Posted - 2014.06.26 03:49:00 - [5] - Quote Atiim wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: You guys have any other ideas to bring FW to life? Hmm.. Increase LP Payout Give significant LP payouts to those who lose Add missing gear to LP Store(s). That should do it. That's about right If you are a scout and you only use EWAR then you have my salutes o7 END THE TYRANNY OF BRINK TANKED SCOUTS
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11216	Posted - 2014.06.26 03:55:00 - [6] - Quote Buwaro Draemon wrote: Like I don't need to tell you guys what is wrong with FW. Not enough players. And this is why we don't get ISK at then end of FW matches. Only a very small payout of LP which is ridiculous. I would like to see Rattati approach this in some way. Increase LP payouts and decrease LP store ISK item costs or bring ISK also to FW. I just want to see FW alive again. But it seems impossible since we have to wait 5 minutes+ just to get in one. And it has been this way ever since it launched in Uprising 1.0 Sure back then it had ISK payouts but everyone skipped it and went straight to pubs. LPs and the LP store makes FW appeal a little bit more. But it really means nothing when you get payed such little and loose a lot of ISK doing so. You guys have any other ideas to bring FW to life? Have some ******* loyalty? I dunno? " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 6182	Posted - 2014.06.26 03:57:00 - [7] - Quote What's wrong with FW? What's wrong with Caldari FW? They are so beat down they don't even try anymore unless it's a Q'sync (and even then they lose to blues often). Most of the time they just STAY IN THE REDLINE. Do you know how boring it is? Do you know how frustrating that is when the enemy doesn't even have the will to fight you? It's annoying as **** that I die in Redline matches more often than actual matches because there are so many Snipers and railgun tanks (Still!?) hiding in the redline. Fight me you cowards, come out of mommies little red skirt. Have some damn honor about you! This Federation is now at war. We have no time for dissenters
Mikey Ducati Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 91	Posted - 2014.06.26 03:59:00 - [8] - Quote It's empty? Guys I play with always talk about FW as if its the last place for competitiveness and is pretty active. I'm pretty sure there are plenty of poor, solo running players who can't afford to venture into FW and that could be the cause of it being low on activity. What do I know? I just a guy named after a fast bike
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11218	Posted - 2014.06.26 04:00:00 - [9] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: What's wrong with FW? What's wrong with Caldari FW? They are so beat down they don't even try anymore unless it's a Q'sync (and even then they lose to blues often). Most of the time they just STAY IN THE REDLINE. Do you know how boring it is? Do you know how frustrating that is when the enemy doesn't even have the will to fight you? It's annoying as ** that I die in Redline matches more often than actual matches because there are so many Snipers and railgun tanks (Still!?) hiding in the redline. Fight me you cowards, come out of mommies little red skirt. Have some damn honor about you! Its the same way in Min FW. You take 1 half decent squad of less than adequate players into it and you win....... then when you stand down all the *** blue berries come out of the wood works and ** up your progress........ Personally I haven't been in a FW we have lost in months...... " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
Espartoi Orkz Clan 264	Posted - 2014.06.26 04:36:00 - [10] - Quote Eliminate the Friendly fire and it will fix a lot the FW. Most of people left because of that is boring to see blueberries start to kill their own team mates. I just want to get back into FW damn it i was pretty fun going against the Imperial Crusade. Shoot Smash Stomp Chop. Am a Giant Realistic Flying Tiger.

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11221	Posted - 2014.06.26 04:41:00 - [11] - Quote Espartoi wrote: Eliminate the Friendly fire and it will fix a lot the FW. Most of people left because of that is boring to see blueberries start to kill their own team mates. I just want to get back into FW damn it i was pretty fun going against the Imperial Crusade. Remove Friendly fire and you remove the capacity to AWOX, removing adaptive sandbox gameplay........ FW doesn't need to be changed a great deal. At most - LP rewards could be higher - If we could choose which systems to deploy to it would allow FWer to work with Spaceborne militia. - Update LP stores with new content. " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
Mikey Ducati Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 93	Posted - 2014.06.26 04:42:00 - [12] - Quote I do remember being in one match against the Caldari and it was EZ mode. Only a handful of Caldari squads gave you a battle. The rest ran and cried in a corner. I just left FW alone. I hate fighting people who give up easily.
Espartoi Orkz Clan 264	Posted - 2014.06.26 04:54:00 - [13] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Espartoi wrote: Eliminate the Friendly fire and it will fix a lot the FW. Most of people left because of that is boring to see blueberries start to kill their own team mates. I just want to get back into FW damn it i was pretty fun going against the Imperial Crusade. Remove Friendly fire and you remove the capacity to AWOX, removing adaptive sandbox gameplay........ FW doesn't need to be changed a great deal. At most - LP rewards could be higher - If we could choose which systems to deploy to it would allow FWer to work with Spaceborne militia. - Update LP stores with new content. But before the mayor change on FW, i was always able to find matches from any side, so LP, FF or both is screwing this. Maybe is my region but am not gonna be awake 24/7 to find a freaking match, i always have the 00:00 for the match finder. - LP rewards could be higher this too or at least add an equal quantity of ISK from LP earned. Shoot Smash Stomp Chop. Am a Giant Realistic Flying Tiger.
Mikey Ducati Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 94	Posted - 2014.06.26 05:31:00 - [14] - Quote Bring back ISK?
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance 2010	Posted - 2014.06.26 06:02:00 - [15] - Quote CCP needed to completely remove ISK as a factor from FW Matches... It's what we asked since beta when we asked for FW overhaul. The ability for a player to become a FW "Only" player or specialist... and then ability to build entire suit's and vehicles using the LP store. Essentially creating an entire economy based around LP instead of ISK. What we got is this half fast attempt with an item list that had little to no forward concept done on it... Just copy and paste with a new name. It was like... carrying the Football all the way to the endzone to turn around and kick it back the other way/
Mikey Ducati Resheph Interstellar Strategy Gallente Federation 96	Posted - 2014.06.26 06:18:00 - [16] - Quote Bethhy wrote: CCP needed to completely remove ISK as a factor from FW Matches... It's what we asked since beta when we asked for FW overhaul. The ability for a player to become a FW "Only" player or specialist... and then ability to build entire suit's and vehicles using the LP store. Essentially creating an entire economy based around LP instead of ISK. What we got is this half fast attempt with an item list that had little to no forward concept done on it... Just copy and paste with a new name. It was like... carrying the Football all the way to the endzone to turn around and kick it back the other way/ Ok, thanks for the back story on this.
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Final Resolution. 229	Posted - 2014.06.26 07:26:00 - [17] - Quote Bethhy wrote: CCP needed to completely remove ISK as a factor from FW Matches... It's what we asked since beta when we asked for FW overhaul. The ability for a player to become a FW "Only" player or specialist... and then ability to build entire suit's and vehicles using the LP store. Essentially creating an entire economy based around LP instead of ISK. What we got is this half fast attempt with an item list that had little to no forward concept done on it... Just copy and paste with a new name. It was like... carrying the Football all the way to the endzone to turn around and kick it back the other way/ Keep same amount of LP as of now but add the same amount of ISK we get per pub match and BOOM FW will up and going If you are a scout and you only use EWAR then you have my salutes o7 END THE TYRANNY OF BRINK TANKED SCOUTS
Lorhak Gannarsein Legio DXIV 3810	Posted - 2014.06.26 11:01:00 - [18] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: Like I don't need to tell you guys what is wrong with FW. Not enough players. And this is why we don't get ISK at then end of FW matches. Only a very small payout of LP which is ridiculous. I would like to see Rattati approach this in some way. Increase LP payouts and decrease LP store ISK item costs or bring ISK also to FW. I just want to see FW alive again. But it seems impossible since we have to wait 5 minutes+ just to get in one. And it has been this way ever since it launched in Uprising 1.0 Sure back then it had ISK payouts but everyone skipped it and went straight to pubs. LPs and the LP store makes FW appeal a little bit more. But it really means nothing when you get payed such little and loose a lot of ISK doing so. You guys have any other ideas to bring FW to life? Have some ******* loyalty? I dunno? I tried queuing for Amarr FW two hours before DT. I ended up waiting for half an hour before I just went and played pubs. CCP Rattati Best Dev AmLogi 5 GÇó AmAss 5 GÇó AmSent 4 GÇó CalScout 5 CalLogi, you're next!
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11227	Posted - 2014.06.26 11:05:00 - [19] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: True Adamance wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: Like I don't need to tell you guys what is wrong with FW. Not enough players. And this is why we don't get ISK at then end of FW matches. Only a very small payout of LP which is ridiculous. I would like to see Rattati approach this in some way. Increase LP payouts and decrease LP store ISK item costs or bring ISK also to FW. I just want to see FW alive again. But it seems impossible since we have to wait 5 minutes+ just to get in one. And it has been this way ever since it launched in Uprising 1.0 Sure back then it had ISK payouts but everyone skipped it and went straight to pubs. LPs and the LP store makes FW appeal a little bit more. But it really means nothing when you get payed such little and loose a lot of ISK doing so. You guys have any other ideas to bring FW to life? Have some ******* loyalty? I dunno? I tried queuing for Amarr FW two hours before DT. I ended up waiting for half an hour before I just went and played pubs. Even in EVE Oceanic TZ is dead, you just deal with it. " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
Derpty Derp It's All Gone Derp 190	Posted - 2014.06.26 11:23:00 - [20] - Quote Only reasons I stopped was because of the glitches and random team killing... The salvage alone was worth it (when you manage to get to the end of a match without being kicked for blowing up an enemy tank.) Did they ever get round to fixing... nvm of course they didn't.

Lorhak Gannarsein Legio DXIV 3810	Posted - 2014.06.26 12:20:00 - [21] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: True Adamance wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: Like I don't need to tell you guys what is wrong with FW. Not enough players. And this is why we don't get ISK at then end of FW matches. Only a very small payout of LP which is ridiculous. I would like to see Rattati approach this in some way. Increase LP payouts and decrease LP store ISK item costs or bring ISK also to FW. I just want to see FW alive again. But it seems impossible since we have to wait 5 minutes+ just to get in one. And it has been this way ever since it launched in Uprising 1.0 Sure back then it had ISK payouts but everyone skipped it and went straight to pubs. LPs and the LP store makes FW appeal a little bit more. But it really means nothing when you get payed such little and loose a lot of ISK doing so. You guys have any other ideas to bring FW to life? Have some ******* loyalty? I dunno? I tried queuing for Amarr FW two hours before DT. I ended up waiting for half an hour before I just went and played pubs. Even in EVE Oceanic TZ is dead, you just deal with it. Which is another way of saying 'loyalty be damned, I can't get into a match even if I want to'. CCP Rattati Best Dev AmLogi 5 GÇó AmAss 5 GÇó AmSent 4 GÇó CalScout 5 CalLogi, you're next!
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 6196	Posted - 2014.06.26 12:23:00 - [22] - Quote Damned if you do, damned if you don't. This Federation is now at war. We have no time for dissenters
Brotherband REMNANT ENFORCERS 3	Posted - 2014.06.26 12:27:00 - [23] - Quote Am I the only person incapable of joining one of the matches. The estimated time is always at zero but I end up waiting for ten minutes or more without a successful hit.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 6196	Posted - 2014.06.26 12:52:00 - [24] - Quote Brotherband wrote: Am I the only person incapable of joining one of the matches. The estimated time is always at zero but I end up waiting for ten minutes or more without a successful hit. You have a much better chance at getting in a battle if you have a full squad. It will usually start a Lobby if you have a squad in which other people join up for when you're waiting to start. (That's my hypothesis based on squads being faster to deploy in FW than soloing it) This Federation is now at war. We have no time for dissenters
ResistanceGTA D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 1370	Posted - 2014.06.26 13:04:00 - [25] - Quote Atiim wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: You guys have any other ideas to bring FW to life? Hmm.. Increase LP Payout Give significant LP payouts to those who lose Add missing gear to LP Store(s). That should do it. Significant Payouts to the Losers?!? Significant? How about they get the current win payouts and we increase the payout considerably for the winners? If you find an issue and I stumble upon your thread, I will do my darnedest to get the issue known. Also, Raptors...
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Final Resolution. 230	Posted - 2014.06.26 18:16:00 - [26] - Quote Yeah, I believe taking out friendly fire may help too. I can't begin to count the many times I have been ran over just about leaving my redline when a blue berry rans me over for the lols. It's frustating and annoying loosing a fit like that just because one of your team mates was bored. If you are a scout and you only use EWAR then you have my salutes o7 END THE TYRANNY OF BRINK TANKED SCOUTS
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11237	Posted - 2014.06.26 19:58:00 - [27] - Quote Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: True Adamance wrote: Lorhak Gannarsein wrote: True Adamance wrote: Buwaro Draemon wrote: Like I don't need to tell you guys what is wrong with FW. Not enough players. And this is why we don't get ISK at then end of FW matches. Only a very small payout of LP which is ridiculous. I would like to see Rattati approach this in some way. Increase LP payouts and decrease LP store ISK item costs or bring ISK also to FW. I just want to see FW alive again. But it seems impossible since we have to wait 5 minutes+ just to get in one. And it has been this way ever since it launched in Uprising 1.0 Sure back then it had ISK payouts but everyone skipped it and went straight to pubs. LPs and the LP store makes FW appeal a little bit more. But it really means nothing when you get payed such little and loose a lot of ISK doing so. You guys have any other ideas to bring FW to life? Have some ******* loyalty? I dunno? I tried queuing for Amarr FW two hours before DT. I ended up waiting for half an hour before I just went and played pubs. Even in EVE Oceanic TZ is dead, you just deal with it. Which is another way of saying 'loyalty be damned, I can't get into a match even if I want to'. If I'm not FWing in Dust I am in EVE. Dead Warzone = Plexers dream come true. " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
Buwaro Draemon WarRavens Final Resolution. 230	Posted - 2014.06.27 01:35:00 - [28] - Quote True Adamance wrote: If I'm not FWing in Dust I am in EVE. Dead Warzone = Plexers dream come true. How is FW on Eve? If you are a scout and you only use EWAR then you have my salutes o7 END THE TYRANNY OF BRINK TANKED SCOUTS
Atiim NoGameNoLife 9892	Posted - 2014.06.27 01:40:00 - [29] - Quote ResistanceGTA wrote: Significant Payouts to the Losers?!? Significant? How about they get the current win payouts and we increase the payout considerably for the winners? If the payouts aren't significant for loosing teams, people will simply start AFKing in the MCC when it becomes obvious that they won't win (which is what currently happens). NoLifing DUST for the Officer Swarm Launcher. "Many things in life are subjective, morality is one of them..." -HAND
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11275	Posted - 2014.06.27 01:42:00 - [30] - Quote Buwaro Draemon wrote: True Adamance wrote: If I'm not FWing in Dust I am in EVE. Dead Warzone = Plexers dream come true. How is FW on Eve? A lot of fun and incredibly challenging for what Dusters call a "Point and Click" game. I'm only very new to combat piloting and just skilling into my Assault Frigates now. But I have to say that there is no rush, not in any game besides back in the early days of Dark Souls, that compares to that first solo kill against an enemy. It's a right proper accomplishment for a new PvPer player. It's going to be even better as of this evening as I take my 140 DPS slicer out for a run. " We need to reclaim their fates and envelop them in ours. And we need to love them, no matter how much it hurts."



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