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FIRST TESTDUMMY Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 150	Posted - 2014.06.24 02:13:00 - [1] - Quote For some reason, I lose most one on one engagements against them. My ACR and SMG combo is ineffective in most match ups and I've even struggled to kill some with my HMG. I've faced Minmatar Scouts with similar shields and superior speed, but they die easily enough. Gallente and Amarr Scouts are pieces of cake as well. Caldari Scouts? If I can strip half the shields off of one, then that's a great accomplishment by my standards.
DarthJT5 12th Shadow Legion 70	Posted - 2014.06.24 02:14:00 - [2] - Quote shoot them, and they usually die [/thread] Dedicated Shield Tanking vet since Open Beta. Up and coming Python pilot. The awnser is always XT missiles....
Egonz4 383	Posted - 2014.06.24 02:16:00 - [3] - Quote DarthJT5 wrote: shoot them, and they usually die [/thread] Master of The Flaylock
DEATH THE KlD Harem. King 0	Posted - 2014.06.24 02:16:00 - [4] - Quote Shoot them in the face.
Thokk Nightshade KNIGHTZ OF THE ROUND 397	Posted - 2014.06.24 02:16:00 - [5] - Quote There is an issue with the hit detection on Cal Scouts. I believe CCP is aware of the issue and is trying to get this resolved. So, the main reason you are having a problem hitting Cal Scouts = bug. Hope that answers your question. Thokk Kill. Thokk Crush. Thokk Smash.
Lorhak Gannarsein Legio DXIV 3734	Posted - 2014.06.24 02:17:00 - [6] - Quote I like to kill them with my rifle. CCP Rattati Best Dev AmLogi 5 GÇó AmAss 5 GÇó AmSent 4 GÇó CalScout 5 CalLogi, you're next!
Thurak1 Psygod9 784	Posted - 2014.06.24 02:17:00 - [7] - Quote The trick is hitting them they are not easy to hit at all.
Lynn Beck NoGameNoLife 1899	Posted - 2014.06.24 02:20:00 - [8] - Quote I've found better results with non-minmatar gear. Honest. Fit a Ion Pistol for christ's sake. General John Ripper -HAM(Yum) This message was approved by the 'Nobody Loved You' Non-Association Foster Care Office
Venerable Phage Red Shirts Away Team 126	Posted - 2014.06.24 02:23:00 - [9] - Quote In Dust you don't find Caldari Scout he finds you. The trick is headshots or area/spray and pray weapons.
Khulmach Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 44	Posted - 2014.06.24 02:24:00 - [10] - Quote Most people play Cal cause for their broken hit detection,and the ability to scan all enemies. Now you see me,now you die(Nova knife slash)

Eko Sol Strange Playings 489	Posted - 2014.06.24 02:34:00 - [11] - Quote FIRST TESTDUMMY wrote: For some reason, I lose most one on one engagements against them. My ACR and SMG combo is ineffective in most match ups and I've even struggled to kill some with my HMG. I've faced Minmatar Scouts with similar shields and superior speed, but they die easily enough. Gallente and Amarr Scouts are pieces of cake as well. Caldari Scouts? If I can strip half the shields off of one, then that's a great accomplishment by my standards. Damage mods. Damage mods apply globally and thus deal extra against shields. I don't know what suit you run or what fit you run either. Just put an enhanced light damage mod (CPU/PG is so cheap compared to the 1% boost with complex) and shoot. As you get better in one on ones you should be aiming a little higher to get extra damage to the head. Don't let them get the jump on you. Check your six and all angles even with the HMG. Be sure that you are using ample shields yourself. You don't want weapons that are strong against armor getting to your armor too quickly. Don't strafe with HMG. If they are strafing just barely move the reticule left to right to maximize damage. If they are jumping then it shouldn't be an issue because you are already aiming higher than normal, starting level. The ACR is strange because it's RoF is so high you can run out of ammo quickly. I still use it like a burst in non strafe 1 vs 1's to make sure I land the most shots and miss very little. Don't just hold the trigger until you are out and goto the SMG. Switch the SMG for the Magsec. more range and more damage per meter and per second (i.e. at 40m you deal more with the magsec than with the SMG). If you are a medium or scout suit when losing the 1 v 1's then consider running. A lot of people think that every fire fight should end with one person losing a clone. This is simply not true if you are a decent or better player. Sometimes you can get away and should learn when that becomes the appropriate strategy. The fact remains that some Cal scouts run complete bricks with zero dampening and you just have to get the jump or avoid them. I run an Amar Logi fit. I run 3 complex precision enhancers. Any scout with less than 2 complex dampeners (except for proto gal that has one complex damp) is visible. To include while cloaked in most cases. If you currently run a logi then I suggest you look for a fit much like the one I run. PSN is "Ekopalm" I play D3, Child of Light, and solo games Also, Proto Trolling until I'm broke...
Pvt Numnutz Watchdoge Explosives 1537	Posted - 2014.06.24 02:35:00 - [12] - Quote Scrambler rifle, your welcome.
Crimson ShieId Psygod9 564	Posted - 2014.06.24 02:35:00 - [13] - Quote ACR is a horrible weapon against Caldari scouts. Get rid of the Minmatar weaponry, for starters. I've had the same issue with Caldari scouts and I just pull out either a scrambler rifle or a plasma rifle, both of which absolutely destroy Caldari suits. You should have one, as those were the only two rifles for the longest time. Just keep a suit ready for such occasions when you know there are a lot of Caldari scouts on the field. Nova Knives are best sidearm.
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 11067	Posted - 2014.06.24 02:41:00 - [14] - Quote Scrambler Rifle Assault Scrambler Rifle Breach Scrambler Pistol and my favourite...... LASER RIFLE! " Those men died loving duty more than they feared death..... they died well." -Templar Ouryon after Iesa III
Rynoceros Rise Of Old Dudes 4032	Posted - 2014.06.24 02:49:00 - [15] - Quote Melee. PSN: The_Rynoceros Destiny beta SoonGäó Console Master Race
Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p 602	Posted - 2014.06.24 03:12:00 - [16] - Quote Use many rifle, it was good day yes. Much little invisible stick man die yes. Shoot scout with yes. Scout say no, much rifle good shoot say yes. Purple stickman mean use trickery for eyes yes but rifle fine day shoot scout yes "Goddamn it! I have to take out my plasma cannon to kill him cause I can't kill him with my flay lock!" -Buzz Kill
Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p 602	Posted - 2014.06.24 03:14:00 - [17] - Quote Seriously though, they do have a glitched hotbox. Two shotgun shells at point blank on any suit should leave it at under 212 shields, and definitely kill a scout. This, however is not the case with caldari scouts, despite getting the RED X MARKERS in my reticle.... :/ "Goddamn it! I have to take out my plasma cannon to kill him cause I can't kill him with my flay lock!" -Buzz Kill
Operative 1125 Lokaas True Companion Planetary Requisitions 239	Posted - 2014.06.24 03:20:00 - [18] - Quote Thokk Nightshade wrote: There is an issue with the hit detection on Cal Scouts. I believe CCP is aware of the issue and is trying to get this resolved. So, the main reason you are having a problem hitting Cal Scouts = bug. Hope that answers your question. Yeah, no sh*t. I tried three times last night and one time was right in front of me and right in the face with an MD. Every time it registered a hit and did not do any damage. THIS IS THE VOICE OF RÁN
Yeeeuuuupppp 369	Posted - 2014.06.24 03:22:00 - [19] - Quote Quit the game -> never see a Caldari Scout again Rage Proficiency V Mic status: Muted Storage Wars Champion.
Tectonic Fusion 1761	Posted - 2014.06.24 04:07:00 - [20] - Quote All I know is the Minmatar heavy speed tanked with the HMG rapes all cal scouts who try to kill me. Try basic minmatar heavy frame with 1 enhanced energizer, 1 enhanced shield extender, 1 enhanced kinetic catalyzer, basic HMG, sidearm that fits, and a flux grenade for clearing rooms.

pyramidhead 420 Carbon 7 Iron Oxide. 552	Posted - 2014.06.24 04:07:00 - [21] - Quote Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote: Seriously though, they do have a glitched hotbox. Two shotgun shells at point blank on any suit should leave it at under 212 shields, and definitely kill a scout. This, however is not the case with caldari scouts, despite getting the RED X MARKERS in my reticle.... :/ wow, this game is so much broken trash. its like being hooked on herion, you just dont know how bad it is until you stop and see yourself from the other side...smh. you had promise dust514, what happened? "may 2nd 2014" happened
Vicious Minotaur Tronhadar Free Guard Minmatar Republic 978	Posted - 2014.06.24 04:24:00 - [22] - Quote I've unloaded around 200 HMG rounds into some Caldari Scouts, and despite being in optimal range and having my large reticule over them, they took little to no damage. But, whenever I field my Caldari Scout, it seems like my hitbox is just dandy, and anybody who gets their reticule on me is able to kill me. Nowadays, I just try to kill them like I would any other suit. If they are glitching out or whatever, so be it. I just don't care anymore. I am a minotaur.
QRT30 Rave Technologies Inc. C0VEN 33	Posted - 2014.06.24 09:30:00 - [23] - Quote Khulmach wrote: Most people play Cal cause for their broken hit detection,and the ability to scan all enemies. Take a scrambler rifle even militia and you can melt my proto cal shield with two shots. Not all, gal scouts are hard to scan QRT30 - all Caldari lvl 5, core maxed QRT300 - Amarr heavy/commando
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon 2331	Posted - 2014.06.24 10:15:00 - [24] - Quote They have a bugged hitbox, tinier than the other scout suits, it's not possible that a lot of people complain about the same thing and they are all wrong, there must be some reason behind. If it's not the hitbox then it can be a bugged hit detection on them. The fact that PRO cal scout shows up like STD already confirms that something strange is happening. PSN: ogamega I'm not a chef, i'm just a man who likes to cook.
FIRST TESTDUMMY Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State 151	Posted - 2014.06.24 10:36:00 - [25] - Quote From what I understand, most of you are saying that Minmatar weapons are not effective against them. Do they have some type of resistance bonus to CRs and SMGs, and are these supposed hit detection issues being looked at by CCP?
CHECHOMAN G0DS AM0NG MEN General Tso's Alliance 407	Posted - 2014.06.24 10:50:00 - [26] - Quote The real problem is that whenever the ccp lia, and this defect, that is more resistant Caldari escout ... And not only that 5% -10% of the weapon or shield against depends delarma used, many people is to get that costume ... But when ccp remove this defect, then what? Most of the colleagues who play dust514 have wasted almost 3,000,000 sp's, for that suit not to be worth anything ... Welcome to the game and what ccp has done since 2 years ... You do not hit them well spend your sp's in this game even if you have 60 million sp's, ccp always takes care of it in the next uprising ... Example, tanks, I have my well optimized up early ions, with 10 million rough me, having compulsorily climb the ability of modules damage tanker account (20 million sp's), and my main account (chechoman 40 million sp's) and other things to make me consume less cpu ... And have my perfect fit ... Now with the change pegadon, I have to spend almost 2 million sp's, in armor, to reduce consumption in ra and 1,800 meter board ... That was not necessary before, now if ... Ccp is to charge it ... Okay, they are ready, but I certainly do not think we are as-sholes ... And with the weapons the same, when I spent every fifth level of optimization that I eat less the gauss rifle and only the fifth level was 1.2 million sp's for me to stay my perfect outfit Gallente logistics ... To descojonarse truth! A year ago I bought packs and aurums ... From 3 months old do not! Least until I get a reset in arms ... The power does not have them ... But fellow like me, we are the ones who pay to retain their jobs .. ok, they will see ... Regards ... . EVE-LEGION-HISPANO.ES.TL/(^o=)\
DozersMouse XIII Inner.Hell 851	Posted - 2014.06.24 13:13:00 - [27] - Quote AR from the hip will wipe out a cal/min scout if you've ever worked at walmart at some point in your life then you know the active scanner looks like a telzon
Twelve Guage Death Firm. Canis Eliminatus Operatives 304	Posted - 2014.06.24 14:48:00 - [28] - Quote Contact nade they never see it coming. Death Firm recruiter and sandwiches maker. You're been like by Twelve Gauge = her grabbing your @$$.
NAV HIV The Generals 1845	Posted - 2014.06.24 16:25:00 - [29] - Quote FIRST TESTDUMMY wrote: For some reason, I lose most one on one engagements against them. My ACR and SMG combo is ineffective in most match ups and I've even struggled to kill some with my HMG. I've faced Minmatar Scouts with similar shields and superior speed, but they die easily enough. Gallente and Amarr Scouts are pieces of cake as well. Caldari Scouts? If I can strip half the shields off of one, then that's a great accomplishment by my standards. Try killing a gal scout + Shotty... LOL
Cenex Langly D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 751	Posted - 2014.06.24 16:38:00 - [30] - Quote FIRST TESTDUMMY wrote: For some reason, I lose most one on one engagements against them. My ACR and SMG combo is ineffective in most match ups and I've even struggled to kill some with my HMG. I've faced Minmatar Scouts with similar shields and superior speed, but they die easily enough. Gallente and Amarr Scouts are pieces of cake as well. Caldari Scouts? If I can strip half the shields off of one, then that's a great accomplishment by my standards. Cal Scout or Gal Scout does the trick without a hitch. But I found mostly that any suit with over 800 HP can survive enough to break those shields. A heavy in most cases if they can get the hits to register on them. To be honest though, the Cal Scout is the only REALLY EFFECTIVE way to kill another Cal Scout as the enemy can't hit you as much as you can't hit them so as long as you can keep bouncing around and get your shots off your skill will show as much as theirs. FYI, my Cal scout runs 4 enhanced shield extenders with 2 complex armor plates (no ferroscale or reactive) and it's a beast. :) [edit] I wanted to add that after being so completely frustrated with your same problem I moved from my Minmatar scout to the Caldari scout. And I would have to say that it isn't the hit detection that is off, it seems to me that they just have smaller hit boxes and/or strafe faster than the other scouts such that they get hit less because of it. I don't know why they would have smaller hit boxes with all those shields and armor plates. It seems that the Minmatar and Amarr scouts have the largest hit box among the 4 scouts... Newb

Izlare Lenix Last VenDetta. Dark Taboo 715	Posted - 2014.06.24 16:58:00 - [31] - Quote I have not seen or read anywhere that ccp confirmed there is a bug with cal scout hit detection. So if one of you have proof of this please provide links. I use cal scout with a viziam and I murder almost every other cal scout I see. You scrubs want to pretend there is a hit detection issue to make yourselves feel good about the fact you have ****** aim. Use a shield based weapon like ScR or AR to kill cal scouts faster. Even the few times I pull out a CR I still kill cal scouts. So again the issue is not this bug some of you are claiming, but your inability to aim properly. Also, I just started using amarr commando with ScR and I have killed plenty of cal scouts with that at well. Gun control is not about guns...it's about control. The only way to ensure freedom is by having the means to defend it.
Tectonic Fusion 1761	Posted - 2014.06.24 17:22:00 - [32] - Quote Izlare Lenix wrote: I have not seen or read anywhere that ccp confirmed there is a bug with cal scout hit detection. So if one of you have proof of this please provide links. I use cal scout with a viziam and I murder almost every other cal scout I see. You scrubs want to pretend there is a hit detection issue to make yourselves feel good about the fact you have ****** aim. Use a shield based weapon like ScR or AR to kill cal scouts faster. Even the few times I pull out a CR I still kill cal scouts. So again the issue is not this bug some of you are claiming, but your inability to aim properly. Also, I just started using amarr commando with ScR and I have killed plenty of cal scouts with that at well. AR Destroys cal scouts.
deezy dabest Sacred Initiative of Combat Killers 675	Posted - 2014.06.24 17:30:00 - [33] - Quote Pvt Numnutz wrote: Scrambler rifle, your welcome. Oh and flux grenades This Laser focused in a room full of mirrors. Everything you ever wanted coming SoonGäó just keep buying boosters.
axINVICTUSxa DETHDEALERS RISE of LEGION 132	Posted - 2014.06.24 17:33:00 - [34] - Quote FIRST TESTDUMMY wrote: For some reason, I lose most one on one engagements against them. My ACR and SMG combo is ineffective in most match ups and I've even struggled to kill some with my HMG. I've faced Minmatar Scouts with similar shields and superior speed, but they die easily enough. Gallente and Amarr Scouts are pieces of cake as well. Caldari Scouts? If I can strip half the shields off of one, then that's a great accomplishment by my standards. Thats interesting. I have the same case here. What works for me is generally higher-powered weapons, such as ScR's or AScR's. Since those scouts are so darn fast landing any hits on them at all are lucky indeed. Thats why you gotta hit them hard and fast. I wallow in pools of blood and wash myself anew, I throw away my ugly self in order to become something beautiful...
Cyrius Li-Moody 0uter.Heaven 5910	Posted - 2014.06.24 17:53:00 - [35] - Quote I laugh every time I see a thread about the "hit boxes" being off and combat rifles being ineffective against caldari. Combat rifle will always do a -5% against it's main tank. You're not going to kill it that easy. You'll never see a minmatar with "similar hp" because they will never get near the amount of shields a caldari has, thus, the caldari will always be more resistant to your ACR and SMG. Use a scrambler rifle. use a scrambler pistol. It's not rocket science people. If you see a gallente or amarr you use projectile. You see caldari or minmatar you use laser or blaster. Until I see some DEV back up this "hit detection" issue many of you claim exists I will continue to find you to be full of it and in need of dare I say... getting gud. I have no more difficulty killing a caldari than anything other suit. Youtuber. Your friendly neighborhood whiskey-fueled merc.
John Demonsbane Unorganized Ninja Infantry Tactics League of Infamy 3549	Posted - 2014.06.24 18:30:00 - [36] - Quote Haven't had a major problem... then again I frequently use LR's on an Amarr assault. All I need to do is look at a Caldari suit funny and it spontaneously combusts. (Gallente scouts on the other hand, grrr.....) (The godfather of tactical logistics)
Stefan Stahl Seituoda Taskforce Command 613	Posted - 2014.06.24 18:33:00 - [37] - Quote John Demonsbane wrote: Haven't had a major problem... then again I frequently use LR's on an Amarr assault. All I need to do is look at a Caldari suit funny and it spontaneously combusts. (Gallente scouts on the other hand, grrr.....) For me it's been the other way around. CalScouts easily withstand a preheated LR with damage mods at optimum range with no adverse consequences at all. I once had a CalScout strafe through my laser beam 4 times in short succession. Barely any damage at all. GalScouts on the other hand just melt, GalSentinels melt. Everything melts. Except CalScouts. ... Unless the CalScout is stops moving transerval to my position for an instant. Then dies.
CommanderBolt ACME SPECIAL FORCES RISE of LEGION 1173	Posted - 2014.06.24 18:48:00 - [38] - Quote I have been enjoying watching Caldari get stripped by scrambler rifles. On the one hand I am happy because I like the scrambler and aim to improve with Amarr laser weapons. On the other hand I do have a liking for Caldari. Investigate 9/11
Cody Sietz SVER True Blood Dirt Nap Squad. 3413	Posted - 2014.06.24 19:01:00 - [39] - Quote Thokk Nightshade wrote: There is an issue with the hit detection on Cal Scouts. I believe CCP is aware of the issue and is trying to get this resolved. So, the main reason you are having a problem hitting Cal Scouts = bug. Hope that answers your question. Happy to hear that they are trying to fix that. "I do agree with you there though. shudders" -Arkena Wyrnspire


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