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Speedddogg
Aaries Logistic Assault
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Posted - 2014.06.20 06:59:00 -
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I used to use an assault rail rifle and nova knives on my scout... but sadly they just don't hold up to shotguns. I eventually tried them and found out how inferior knives are, and that the Magsec is a lot like an Assault rail rifle. Do I like being a shotty? No. Not at all. But I do what works.
I will shoot you in the back! Unless you see me, in which case I'll hit that suicide button so fast...
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LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.06.20 07:02:00 -
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The shotty is boring. It's too inconsistent at killing Heavies. Be a man and pick up a PLC. You'll send Heavies flying and you can function as a support AV unit. |
Xocoyol Zaraoul
Superior Genetics
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Posted - 2014.06.20 07:03:00 -
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Normal RR is pretty bliss though on a CK0, allows you to pretty much pick people off at range with impunity and really exploit your high speed, low profile, nice sensors to keep tacnet surprises away, and your really high regen... Though obviously this is a completely different strategy from a shotty...
Try that out instead of the ARR and see how you like it, just stay the hell away from everything and out of urban combat and you rarely lose suits and get a respectable amount of kills (Assuming you play Skirmish).
"You see those red dots over there?
Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
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Arkena Wyrnspire
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.06.20 07:26:00 -
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Knives are mainly useful for attempting to kill heavies. It doesn't work when they get spammed everywhere, but a charge attack can do enough damage to almost kill most heavies.
You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
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Leovarian L Lavitz
Last VenDetta. Dark Taboo
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Posted - 2014.06.20 07:50:00 -
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Just imagine... Just imagine...
16 plasma cannons vrs 16 plasma cannons
Omni-Soldier
Few are my equal in these specialties, none compare in all of them
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Crimson ShieId
Psygod9
549
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Posted - 2014.06.20 08:19:00 -
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If you're not in a Minmatar, don't play with knives, kids. They're dangerous weapons and we wouldn't want anyone cutting themselves and trying to sue Ishukone.
Nova Knives are best sidearm.
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The Rainbow Affect
The Rainbow Effect Dirt Nap Squad.
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Posted - 2014.06.20 08:54:00 -
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Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:Just imagine... Just imagine...
16 plasma cannons vrs 16 plasma cannons
Or indeed, 32 vs 32 |
Brokerib
Lone Wolves Club
1396
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Posted - 2014.06.20 09:17:00 -
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Knives aren't the smart choice. Though to be fair, they've never been the smart choice. They are however, the amusing choice.
I wonder how PLC and NK would go as a fit...
Knowledge is power
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Kasote Denzara
A Vulture
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Posted - 2014.06.20 11:11:00 -
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Since I saw the Bravo notes, I am doing what seems impossible. Returning to the Tactical Plasma Rifle, the one gun that was once the absolute most feared and unstoppable thing in the game. Yes, the TAC will return. In the hands of the Gallente Commando.
Let the Scrambler Rifle know a rival once again.
This is a signature. You have been enlightened.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
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Posted - 2014.06.20 12:53:00 -
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Kasote Denzara wrote:Since I saw the Bravo notes, I am doing what seems impossible. Returning to the Tactical Plasma Rifle, the one gun that was once the absolute most feared and unstoppable thing in the game. Yes, the TAC will return. In the hands of the Gallente Commando.
Let the Scrambler Rifle know a rival once again.
Do you mean 'absolute most powerful besides BrAR, HMG, SL, MD and FP'?
Also, the ScR happens to have three significant rivals now, rather than the previous two.
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
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Posted - 2014.06.20 12:59:00 -
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Shotty>knives in all cases except ishnoks on a proto min scout versus a very slow heavy
Which is BS
EDIT: This doesn't mean shotty needs a nerf....if anything it needs a hit detection buff, but knives need a huge buff as well (more range, aim assist)
What all Minjas are thinking as they play...
Yellow Heavy, Red Heavy...
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Speedddogg
Aaries Logistic Assault
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Posted - 2014.06.20 22:40:00 -
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LT SHANKS wrote:The shotty is boring. It's too inconsistent at killing Heavies. Be a man and pick up a PLC. You'll send Heavies flying and you can function as a support AV unit. I already have a suit for that. Some might question putting both a mass driver and a plasma cannon on a commando... but its... well its interesting.
I will shoot you in the back! Unless you see me, in which case I'll hit that suicide button so fast...
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Henrietta Unknown
Sooper Speshul Ponee Fors
286
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Posted - 2014.06.20 22:53:00 -
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Do what works? Knives still perform to my expectations. You just have to engage from behind. I have killed heavies with non-charged swipes in the same situation where multiple shotgun rounds are needed.
Pair it with a competent firearm, and you have something that works. Remember, it's just a game. You do what's fun, not necessarily what gives you insane stats that mean nothing IRL.
Henrietta Reborn
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Venerable Phage
Red Shirts Away Team
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Posted - 2014.06.20 23:10:00 -
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:Shotty>knives in all cases except ishnoks on a proto min scout versus a very slow heavy
Which is BS
EDIT: This doesn't mean shotty needs a nerf....if anything it needs a hit detection buff, but knives need a huge buff as well (more range, aim assist)
Which points to factors most people don't consider when comparing weapons which is not just DPS, but range and ROF.
Rifles are far more forgiving of missed shots then knives or shotguns as the ROF on rifles means they can compensate for missed shots. Additionally increased range gives the ability to duck and pick targets from safety.
I find it funny that people will complain about both shotguns and sniper rifles just because they aren't operating like rifles. Btw assault rifle on scouts rock. |
Jotun Izalaru
Goonfeet
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Posted - 2014.06.20 23:19:00 -
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Knives actually pick up the slack in a lot of area where shotties are weak.
One of those areas is, unfortunately, not the 'vs. shotguns one.' sddenly i go from winning my CQC duels to being instagibbed and I feel bad using my shotty on NKers.
my fellow knifers, if i could guarantee you wouldn't literally stab me in the back, i'd let you be when i'm shotgunning.
that said i'm bored of knives. pure melee is where it's at. |
Speedddogg
Aaries Logistic Assault
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Posted - 2014.06.21 01:44:00 -
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After thinking for a while... I'm sticking with my knives.
I will stab you in the back! Unless you see me, in which case I'll hit that suicide button so fast...
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