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Aisha Ctarl
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
4752
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Posted - 2014.06.11 12:34:00 -
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1) Amarr Assault has a speed penalty for only 30 HP more armor.
2) Amarr Assault is set up like a dual tanker and has one less slot than other suits due to having more potential eHP although other suits can easily attain similar eHP values.
3) Amarr Scout has no niche role. Gallente is the infiltrator, Caldari is the radar man, Minmatar is the hacker and assassin, Amarr is the ???
4) Amarr Scout was given a stamina bonus which is fine BUT the stamina recharge rates were buffed for all other scout suits making the Amarr stamina bonus void.
5) Amarr Scout given an unnecessary speed penalty just like the assault suit.
6) Laser Rifle and Scrambler Rifle received stealth nerfs due to the proficiency change. The LR and ScR both do 139% damage to shields with proficiency five, but now due to the change only do 80% to armor, no other weapon in the game does this little damage to either shields or armor but the laser weapons.
7) Amarr only has three weapons in game while the other races have four.
C - Swarm launcher, magsec, RR, forge gun, nova knives G - Plasma rifle, shotgun, flux grenade, ion pistol M - CR, SMG, RE's, locus grenades, mass driver, flaylock A - ScR, LR, ScRP
I'm sure there's more but that's all I could think of currently. Just wanted to put it out there so everyone could see that the Amarr are clearly lacking in this game, perhaps in Legion it will be fair.
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Soreconyr
Rise Of Old Dudes
49
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Posted - 2014.06.11 13:11:00 -
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Your Logi has a sidearm. This counterbalances all of your points.
(You're Welcome.)
July 17 - Destiny waits for no one.
PSN: The_Rynoceros
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Aisha Ctarl
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
4752
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Posted - 2014.06.11 13:22:00 -
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Soreconyr wrote:Your Logi has a sidearm. This counterbalances all of your points.
(You're Welcome.)
You're going to have to do far better than that.
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Derrith Erador
Kameira Lodge
2038
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Posted - 2014.06.11 13:43:00 -
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I don't know what you're talking about Aisha. I still whack crack fat bois who slap rail rifles on their suits with my SCR and LR. I'll give it to you that our suits are a little subpar, but I boss those dumb fat kids that think they're good running a proto rail on a fat boi.
Betty White, the worlds hottest grandma.
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Aisha Ctarl
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
4752
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Posted - 2014.06.11 13:55:00 -
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Derrith Erador wrote:I don't know what you're talking about Aisha. I still whack crack fat bois who slap rail rifles on their suits with my SCR and LR. I'll give it to you that our suits are a little subpar, but I boss those dumb fat kids that think they're good running a proto rail on a fat boi.
As do I, my SCR is as prejudiced as ever, but the Amarr still have the short end of the stick.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
3453
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Posted - 2014.06.11 13:56:00 -
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Soreconyr wrote:Your Logi has a sidearm. This counterbalances all of your points.
(You're Welcome.)
We also have fewer total slots and also fewer equipment.
You're Welcome.
CCP Rattati Best Dev
Sorry, Blowout...
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KAGEHOSHI Horned Wolf
Dominion of the Supreme Emperor God-King KAGEHOSHI
11106
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Posted - 2014.06.11 13:58:00 -
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You forgot Caldari also have AV grenades, and sniper rifle.
Gû¦Supreme emperor god-kingpÇÉKAGEH¦PSHIpÇæ// Lord of threads // Forum altGû+
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Soreconyr
Rise Of Old Dudes
50
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Posted - 2014.06.11 13:58:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:Soreconyr wrote:Your Logi has a sidearm. This counterbalances all of your points.
(You're Welcome.) You're going to have to do far better than that. Gold?
How SoonGäó they forget...
CCP wrote:Caldari or GTFO.
July 17 - Destiny waits for no one.
PSN: The_Rynoceros
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Medic 1879
Forsaken Immortals Top Men.
2030
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Posted - 2014.06.11 15:38:00 -
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Don't worry in 2020 when Legion has been out for a year after many delays and promises of soon you will be told your Amarr vehicles will be in game SOONGäó and then you will have glorious golden vehicles, although they still wont be as good as the rusty Minmatar vehicles.
Lead Diplomat for Forsaken Immortals.
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Repe Susi
Rautaleijona
1300
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Posted - 2014.06.11 15:43:00 -
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I'm quite out of the loop but isn't it proposed that Amarr assault gets 4th low slot in hotfix Bravo or so I think I read somewhere?
Life is pleasant. Death is peaceful. It's the transition that's troublesome. ~ Isaac Asimov
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Lynn Beck
Heaven's Lost Property
1761
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Posted - 2014.06.11 16:03:00 -
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Honestly, Amarr needs to go 2/5, with Gallente going 3/4
General John Ripper
Like ALL the things!!!
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
3454
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Posted - 2014.06.11 16:07:00 -
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Repe Susi wrote:I'm quite out of the loop but isn't it proposed that Amarr assault gets 4th low slot in hotfix Bravo or so I think I read somewhere?
YES AND I AM SO EXCITED!!
Not really sure what I'm going to put there. Maybe a dampener once I have them skilled properly...
CCP Rattati Best Dev
Sorry, Blowout...
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Aisha Ctarl
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
4756
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Posted - 2014.06.11 16:47:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Repe Susi wrote:I'm quite out of the loop but isn't it proposed that Amarr assault gets 4th low slot in hotfix Bravo or so I think I read somewhere? YES AND I AM SO EXCITED!! Not really sure what I'm going to put there. Maybe a dampener once I have them skilled properly...
Probably another repper for me in the low
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
3458
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Posted - 2014.06.11 16:49:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Repe Susi wrote:I'm quite out of the loop but isn't it proposed that Amarr assault gets 4th low slot in hotfix Bravo or so I think I read somewhere? YES AND I AM SO EXCITED!! Not really sure what I'm going to put there. Maybe a dampener once I have them skilled properly... Probably another repper for me in the low
That's my other option :P
CCP Rattati Best Dev
Sorry, Blowout...
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Aisha Ctarl
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
4759
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Posted - 2014.06.11 16:52:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Repe Susi wrote:I'm quite out of the loop but isn't it proposed that Amarr assault gets 4th low slot in hotfix Bravo or so I think I read somewhere? YES AND I AM SO EXCITED!! Not really sure what I'm going to put there. Maybe a dampener once I have them skilled properly... Probably another repper for me in the low That's my other option :P
Yeah I have profile dampening at five, but I don't see putting a dampener on an assault suit.
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Lorhak Gannarsein
Legio DXIV
3459
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Posted - 2014.06.11 17:05:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Repe Susi wrote:I'm quite out of the loop but isn't it proposed that Amarr assault gets 4th low slot in hotfix Bravo or so I think I read somewhere? YES AND I AM SO EXCITED!! Not really sure what I'm going to put there. Maybe a dampener once I have them skilled properly... Probably another repper for me in the low That's my other option :P Yeah I have profile dampening at five, but I don't see putting a dampener on an assault suit.
Most pubby scouts don't bother with precision enhancers; a dampener puts them on the same footing as me.
Also, new information has come to light.
I am now fitting a repper on my 13 base PG Viziam.
CCP Rattati Best Dev
Sorry, Blowout...
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Captain Boom-kake
Lokapalas.
0
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Posted - 2014.06.11 18:30:00 -
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Amarr gets short end of stick.
Still kicks the most ass.
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Captain Boom-kake
Lokapalas.
0
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Posted - 2014.06.11 18:31:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Repe Susi wrote:I'm quite out of the loop but isn't it proposed that Amarr assault gets 4th low slot in hotfix Bravo or so I think I read somewhere? YES AND I AM SO EXCITED!! Not really sure what I'm going to put there. Maybe a dampener once I have them skilled properly... Probably another repper for me in the low That's my other option :P Yeah I have profile dampening at five, but I don't see putting a dampener on an assault suit.
Considering the AScout is an assault that can fit a cloak, yeah there really isn't a point to dampening an assault. lol |
Onesimus Tarsus
Holdfast Syndicate Amarr Empire
2079
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Posted - 2014.06.11 18:39:00 -
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My Sig.
Amarr. Scout.
Stop laughing!
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Aisha Ctarl
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
4763
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Posted - 2014.06.11 18:53:00 -
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Onesimus Tarsus wrote:My Sig.
I'm a proto one
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Atiim
Heaven's Lost Property
9348
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Posted - 2014.06.11 18:58:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote: 6) Laser Rifle and Scrambler Rifle received stealth nerfs due to the proficiency change. The LR and ScR both do 139% damage to shields with proficiency five, but now due to the change only do 80% to armor, no other weapon in the game does this little damage to either shields or armor but the laser weapons.
No other weapon does that little damage to shields? So then I assume that:
- Mass Drivers
- Swarm Launchers
- Remote Explosives
- Locus Grenades
- AV Grenades
Are simply figments of my imagination and I've been hallucinating for over a year now?
Amarrians would prefer you be faithful... I'd rather you be logical.
-HAND
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Aisha Ctarl
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
4764
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Posted - 2014.06.11 21:14:00 -
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Atiim wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote: 6) Laser Rifle and Scrambler Rifle received stealth nerfs due to the proficiency change. The LR and ScR both do 139% damage to shields with proficiency five, but now due to the change only do 80% to armor, no other weapon in the game does this little damage to either shields or armor but the laser weapons.
No other weapon does that little damage to shields? So then I assume that:
- Mass Drivers
- Swarm Launchers
- Remote Explosives
- Locus Grenades
- AV Grenades
Are simply figments of my imagination and I've been hallucinating for over a year now?
I meant to say little damage to armor, that was my mistake.
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Floyd20 Azizora
L.O.T.I.S.
58
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Posted - 2014.06.11 21:42:00 -
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never meant me in a pub have you? my cal scout always has a precision enhancer. but yeah, amarr scout seems to lack purpose, assault is getting sorted in beta, logi may get better, scr dropping 7 pg at proto is massive |
Winst0n W0lf
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2014.06.11 22:55:00 -
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Soreconyr wrote:Your Logi has a sidearm. This counterbalances all of your points.
(You're Welcome.)
And one less equipment slot to "compensate". And horrible fitting power. And the missing low slot. And is barely faster than those scrub fatties with rail rifles.
I solve problems. I'm also John Demonsbane.
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Scheneighnay McBob
The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance
5224
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Posted - 2014.06.11 22:58:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:Atiim wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote: 6) Laser Rifle and Scrambler Rifle received stealth nerfs due to the proficiency change. The LR and ScR both do 139% damage to shields with proficiency five, but now due to the change only do 80% to armor, no other weapon in the game does this little damage to either shields or armor but the laser weapons.
No other weapon does that little damage to shields? So then I assume that:
- Mass Drivers
- Swarm Launchers
- Remote Explosives
- Locus Grenades
- AV Grenades
Are simply figments of my imagination and I've been hallucinating for over a year now? I meant to say little damage to armor, that was my mistake. And no other weapon does that much damage to shields, save fluxes, which do none to armor.
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
10318
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Posted - 2014.06.11 23:07:00 -
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Hey, at least your weapons are all golden! Both figuratively and literally.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Greasepalms
Ahrendee Mercenaries
589
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Posted - 2014.06.11 23:32:00 -
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could really use an Amarrian AV weapon tbh. |
Games Haven
Seykal Expeditionary Group Minmatar Republic
187
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Posted - 2014.06.12 00:31:00 -
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The struggle is real.
The struggle is real.
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p
403
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Posted - 2014.06.12 00:47:00 -
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if you get your extra slot, you'll be fine.
26-2 ambush with militia minmitar heavy, no relevant skills
9-3 proto minmitar scout
Scount OP nurf it to grownd
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OZAROW
Heaven's Lost Property
1440
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Posted - 2014.06.12 03:44:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:1) Amarr Assault has a speed penalty for only 30 HP more armor.
2) Amarr Assault is set up like a dual tanker and has one less slot than other suits due to having more potential eHP although other suits can easily attain similar eHP values.
3) Amarr Scout has no niche role. Gallente is the infiltrator, Caldari is the radar man, Minmatar is the hacker and assassin, Amarr is the ???
4) Amarr Scout was given a stamina bonus which is fine BUT the stamina recharge rates were buffed for all other scout suits making the Amarr stamina bonus void.
5) Amarr Scout given an unnecessary speed penalty just like the assault suit.
6) Laser Rifle and Scrambler Rifle received stealth nerfs due to the proficiency change. The LR and ScR both do 139% damage to shields with proficiency five, but now due to the change only do 80% to armor, no other weapon in the game does this little damage to armor but the laser weapons.
7) Amarr only has three weapons in game while the other races have four.
C - Swarm launcher, magsec, RR, forge gun, nova knives, As grenades, sniper rifle G - Plasma rifle, shotgun, flux grenade, ion pistol, plasma cannon M - CR, SMG, RE's, locus grenades, mass driver, flaylock A - ScR, LR, ScRP
I'm sure there's more but that's all I could think of currently. Just wanted to put it out there so everyone could see that the Amarr are clearly lacking in this game, perhaps in Legion it will be fair.
Another thing that bothers me is that CCP is blue tagging threads on every other race but are ignoring every thread pointing out how the Amarr are behind the other races in practicality and amount of content in game. I want scrambler smg's with no over heat like the auto scr.
SUPER NOVA KNIFE SAIYAN 4
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Mauren NOON
The Exemplars Top Men.
314
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Posted - 2014.06.12 14:24:00 -
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OZAROW wrote:Aisha Ctarl wrote:1) Amarr Assault has a speed penalty for only 30 HP more armor.
2) Amarr Assault is set up like a dual tanker and has one less slot than other suits due to having more potential eHP although other suits can easily attain similar eHP values.
3) Amarr Scout has no niche role. Gallente is the infiltrator, Caldari is the radar man, Minmatar is the hacker and assassin, Amarr is the ???
4) Amarr Scout was given a stamina bonus which is fine BUT the stamina recharge rates were buffed for all other scout suits making the Amarr stamina bonus void.
5) Amarr Scout given an unnecessary speed penalty just like the assault suit.
6) Laser Rifle and Scrambler Rifle received stealth nerfs due to the proficiency change. The LR and ScR both do 139% damage to shields with proficiency five, but now due to the change only do 80% to armor, no other weapon in the game does this little damage to armor but the laser weapons.
7) Amarr only has three weapons in game while the other races have four.
C - Swarm launcher, magsec, RR, forge gun, nova knives, As grenades, sniper rifle G - Plasma rifle, shotgun, flux grenade, ion pistol, plasma cannon M - CR, SMG, RE's, locus grenades, mass driver, flaylock A - ScR, LR, ScRP
I'm sure there's more but that's all I could think of currently. Just wanted to put it out there so everyone could see that the Amarr are clearly lacking in this game, perhaps in Legion it will be fair.
Another thing that bothers me is that CCP is blue tagging threads on every other race but are ignoring every thread pointing out how the Amarr are behind the other races in practicality and amount of content in game. I want scrambler smg's with no over heat like the auto scr. ^this.....now. Rail rifles got a smg...why can't scramblers?
Scr and commando enthusiast.
A commando is not just a suit, but a way of life...
"The only thing to fear is fear itself"
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THUNDERGROOVE
Fatal Absolution
913
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Posted - 2014.06.12 14:31:00 -
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Gavr1Io Pr1nc1p wrote:if you get your extra slot, you'll be fine. Extra slot.
Woo hoo let's fit 100 more armor or 5-8 more repair. Still get's instakilled because lolhmg
The Amarr scout bonus is like the old Amarr sentinel bonus. No one needed 25% reduction to overheat damage on a heavy;_;
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
5995
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Posted - 2014.06.12 16:02:00 -
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I think if it had more armor than a measly +30 it'd be better. Also I hope legion makes the Amarr suits armor focused and not this dual tanked ****
Of all sad words of tongue and pen
the saddest are these,
'it might have been'
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Aisha Ctarl
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares
4773
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Posted - 2014.06.12 16:14:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:I think if it had more armor than a measly +30 it'd be better. Also I hope legion makes the Amarr suits armor focused and not this dual tanked ****
Amen.
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
5996
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Posted - 2014.06.12 17:15:00 -
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Aisha Ctarl wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:I think if it had more armor than a measly +30 it'd be better. Also I hope legion makes the Amarr suits armor focused and not this dual tanked **** Amen. I honestly think Amarr need a 150 armor buff (Mediums in this case) and reduced shields down to 100.
They give up a slot and are slower. The cons are not worth a small HP buff but also the ability to use laser weapons to their fullest potential must be looked in as a factor as well.
Of all sad words of tongue and pen
the saddest are these,
'it might have been'
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