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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.06.10 13:31:00 -
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The days of me posting long intricate post about why something should be changed are over. If you want to know why in detail sort through my vast past of comments in Feedback and you'll eventually come across my multiple Kin Cat threads.
Short notes:
-Kin Cats mimic MWDs from EVE; Medium modules in EVE are our high slots (our weapons and equipment are high slots)
-The Kin Cats, as hinted throughout CCPs faction bundle and LP store are Gallente themed, or at least Gallente make the most use out of it. It would make the most sense if the Gallente had the Kin cat in the highslot.
-There are barely any modules for armor races or general modules for the Highslots.
Of all sad words of tongue and pen
the saddest are these,
'it might have been'
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Gelan Corbaine
Gladiators Vanguard
454
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Posted - 2014.06.10 14:31:00 -
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Translation : How to screw over the minmatar in on easy step ......
No job is worth doing if you don't get paid in the end .
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
10262
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Posted - 2014.06.10 14:41:00 -
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I approve, something to put in high slots that isn't completely ballz.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
1595
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Posted - 2014.06.10 14:45:00 -
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Dislike. Further shafts the MinScout.
Maybe Codebreakers, but not KinCats.
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
10262
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Posted - 2014.06.10 14:47:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:Dislike. Further shafts the MinScout.
Maybe Codebreakers, but not KinCats.
And yet Codebreakers is what the Minscout is supposed to be fitting 
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
1597
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Posted - 2014.06.10 15:16:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Dislike. Further shafts the MinScout.
Maybe Codebreakers, but not KinCats. And yet Codebreakers is what the Minscout is supposed to be fitting In fact, this will help the Min scout, as they have equal high and low slots. That means they can both fit hacking upgrades AND kinetic catalyzers, making them the ultimate hacker.
Hmm ... KinCats or Shield Extenders ... which do I need?
Look, if you can convince Moody and the guys then I'll reconsider.
But until then, I think this idea is bad for all Scouts.
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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Gelan Corbaine
Gladiators Vanguard
456
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Posted - 2014.06.10 15:26:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:Dislike. Further shafts the MinScout.
Maybe Codebreakers, but not KinCats. And yet Codebreakers is what the Minscout is supposed to be fitting In fact, this will help the Min scout, as they have equal high and low slots. That means they can both fit hacking upgrades AND kinetic catalyzers, making them the ultimate hacker.
Min Scout is not the only Minmatar suit that uses Kin kats !!!!  You'd completely wreak a good number of the few viable fits that we got !!!
No job is worth doing if you don't get paid in the end .
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pagl1u M
Namtar Elite
Gallente Federation
898
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Posted - 2014.06.10 15:30:00 -
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This is not EVE this is Dust. You can no more balance things looking at EVE.
Also: amor tankers dont need more love...
Minmatar loyalist!
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
10266
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Posted - 2014.06.10 16:14:00 -
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pagl1u M wrote:This is not EVE this is Dust. You can no more balance things looking at EVE.
Also: amor tankers dont need more love...
If shield tanking is brought up to snuff, which is going to be, then it's going to be better than armor.
Why you ask?
Because there are no worthwhile utility modules in high slots.
Shield tankers have the majority of useful modules.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.06.10 18:21:00 -
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The Min scout needs more love in general, they are already fast by nature better hp regeneration is needed amongst other things to bring the Minmitar to par.
But yes, the Minmatars scout suit is focused on Hacking.
Of all sad words of tongue and pen
the saddest are these,
'it might have been'
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mr musturd
0uter.Heaven
511
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Posted - 2014.06.10 22:01:00 -
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No not a good idea.. this would wreck the minmitar while allowing gallente to tank armor and offset the speed penalty with kin cats in the highs |
Adipem Nothi
Nos Nothi
1652
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Posted - 2014.06.11 03:36:00 -
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mr musturd wrote:No not a good idea.. this would wreck the minmitar while allowing gallente to tank armor and offset the speed penalty with kin cats in the highs
@ Sgt Kirk, Cat Merc
Dare we question Mr Musturd's experience and knowledge on all things Minja?
:: Popcorn ::
Shoot scout with yes...
- Ripley Riley
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
5975
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Posted - 2014.06.11 03:38:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:mr musturd wrote:No not a good idea.. this would wreck the minmitar while allowing gallente to tank armor and offset the speed penalty with kin cats in the highs @ Sgt Kirk, Cat Merc Dare we question Mr Musturd's experience and knowledge on all things Minja? :: Popcorn ::
Yes.
Because the Minja is a PoS suit that needs a major overhaul so I could care less about it in its current form.
Of all sad words of tongue and pen
the saddest are these,
'it might have been'
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DeathwindRising
ROGUE RELICS
332
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Posted - 2014.06.11 04:31:00 -
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what about adding a movement bonus to the melee damage mods?
it would buff the minmatar and also offset armor plate penalties for armor tankers |
Ghost Kaisar
The Last of DusT.
General Tso's Alliance
5180
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Posted - 2014.06.11 05:27:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:mr musturd wrote:No not a good idea.. this would wreck the minmitar while allowing gallente to tank armor and offset the speed penalty with kin cats in the highs @ Sgt Kirk, Cat Merc Dare we question Mr Musturd's experience and knowledge on all things Minja? :: Popcorn :: Yes. Because the Minja is a PoS suit that needs a major overhaul so I could care less about it in its current form.
In that case, we should nerf all scouts to Minmatar levels.
Min scout needs a level playing field, and I could care less about the other scouts in their current forms.
Headed to Destiny, To Hell with CCP
PSN: EVL_Elgost105
RIP Dust514 05/02/14 GG CCP
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Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc
RISE of LEGION
10295
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Posted - 2014.06.11 05:30:00 -
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Adipem Nothi wrote:mr musturd wrote:No not a good idea.. this would wreck the minmitar while allowing gallente to tank armor and offset the speed penalty with kin cats in the highs @ Sgt Kirk, Cat Merc Dare we question Mr Musturd's experience and knowledge on all things Minja? :: Popcorn ::
Yes.
I am a cat, my wisdom surpasses that of any human ten fold.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Dirt Nap Squad.
6100
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Posted - 2014.06.11 05:31:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:The Min scout needs more love in general, they are already fast by nature better hp regeneration is needed amongst other things to bring the Minmitar to par.
But yes, the Minmatars scout suit is focused on Hacking.
That slight speed increase doesn't help when a gallente can outrun you due to having more PG, if you want to be quick enough to match you need to neuter your fit, which doesn't help if you use anything but a shotgun.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 1
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Dirt Nap Squad.
6101
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Posted - 2014.06.11 05:52:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:mr musturd wrote:No not a good idea.. this would wreck the minmitar while allowing gallente to tank armor and offset the speed penalty with kin cats in the highs @ Sgt Kirk, Cat Merc Dare we question Mr Musturd's experience and knowledge on all things Minja? :: Popcorn :: Yes. I am a cat, my wisdom surpasses that of any human ten fold.
To bad none of us are human anymore.
Sinboto - The True Blood Minja
Forum Warrior level 5 Prof 1
STB-Infantry (Demolition)
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.06.11 05:58:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:mr musturd wrote:No not a good idea.. this would wreck the minmitar while allowing gallente to tank armor and offset the speed penalty with kin cats in the highs @ Sgt Kirk, Cat Merc Dare we question Mr Musturd's experience and knowledge on all things Minja? :: Popcorn :: Yes. Because the Minja is a PoS suit that needs a major overhaul so I could care less about it in its current form. In that case, we should nerf all scouts to Minmatar levels. Min scout needs a level playing field, and I could care less about the other scouts in their current forms.
Glad you feel the same way. Scouts need a overhaul in general.
Of all sad words of tongue and pen
the saddest are these,
'it might have been'
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Ghost Kaisar
The Last of DusT.
General Tso's Alliance
5181
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Posted - 2014.06.11 06:01:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Ghost Kaisar wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Adipem Nothi wrote:mr musturd wrote:No not a good idea.. this would wreck the minmitar while allowing gallente to tank armor and offset the speed penalty with kin cats in the highs @ Sgt Kirk, Cat Merc Dare we question Mr Musturd's experience and knowledge on all things Minja? :: Popcorn :: Yes. Because the Minja is a PoS suit that needs a major overhaul so I could care less about it in its current form. In that case, we should nerf all scouts to Minmatar levels. Min scout needs a level playing field, and I could care less about the other scouts in their current forms. Glad you feel the same way. Scouts need a overhaul in general.
Not what I meant with my comment, but yes.
Scouts need an overhaul, both fitting wise and eWAR wise.
A solid role for once, so that we don't fit them all as "Stealth Slayer"
The only problem is the fact that true eWAR is really freaking powerful when you can't avoid it. 3x PE Cal scout is proof of this.
Headed to Destiny, To Hell with CCP
PSN: EVL_Elgost105
RIP Dust514 05/02/14 GG CCP
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
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Posted - 2014.06.11 06:25:00 -
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Ghost Kaisar wrote:Scouts need an overhaul, both fitting wise and eWAR wise.
A solid role for once, so that we don't fit them all as "Stealth Slayer"
The only problem is the fact that true eWAR is really freaking powerful when you can't avoid it. 3x PE Cal scout is proof of this.
That's right.
Scouts cannot be fixed until the intelligence aspect of eWar is fixed and for that to be fixed you have to completely redo the Detection Mechanics in this game to dynamic numbers and variables and not just a constant flat numbers everywhere.
You're going to have to rework a lot of things for Scouts to be where they need to be and this current system does not allow that.
Of all sad words of tongue and pen
the saddest are these,
'it might have been'
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Velociraptor antirrhopus
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
180
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Posted - 2014.06.11 06:27:00 -
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Should be both. Low and High. As well as damage mods, hacking modules, etc.
Actually, there should be a medium slot, but that'll never make it into Dust.
My thoughts on Hotfix Alpha: First I noticed a scout running from my AR. Then a heavy. Then a COMBAT RIFLE USER. CCP +1
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Sgt Kirk
Fatal Absolution
5985
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Posted - 2014.06.11 06:28:00 -
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Velociraptor antirrhopus wrote:Should be both. Low and High. As well as damage mods, hacking modules, etc.
Actually, there should be a medium slot, but that'll never make it into Dust.
Highslots are our weapons and equipment
Medium slots are our highslots.
Low slots are our low slots.
Of all sad words of tongue and pen
the saddest are these,
'it might have been'
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