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Louis Domi
Pradox One Proficiency V.
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Posted - 2014.06.09 20:15:00 -
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Violence only breeds more violence
Tanks only breeds more tanks.
Tell me that this does not sound familar to you:
In a match, Enemy team has 4 tanks, kills alot of infantry men, My team brings out 4 tanks, Kills the other tanks, goes on to kill alot of enemy infantry, Enemy team then brings out another 4 tanks, and the cycle continues, till whatever team wins.(For ambush just say it is 2 tanks instead of 4
How can we stop the senseless tank spam? When will people start bring out their AV fits? When will scotty put the Tank spammers in a battle with just other tank spammers? When will CCP make a vehicle only game mode, and an infantry only game mode and call it a day? Why can't the Splash damage on all explosive weapons be just as powerful as direct damage? I mean come on IRL if you throw an explosive at someone and it lands right on the ground less than 1 foot from them, don't you think that would kill them? Think People! We need answers! |
Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
10246
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Posted - 2014.06.09 20:17:00 -
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People will bring out their AV fits when it's economical and viable compared to bringing a tank. It isn't.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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Louis Domi
Pradox One Proficiency V.
361
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Posted - 2014.06.09 20:50:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:People will bring out their AV fits when it's economical and viable compared to bringing a tank. It isn't.
You forgot to answer the rest of my questions... Oh wait i meant to say the rest of Meows questions.. Hahaha You get it? Cause you're a cat merc and i said Meow instead of my... I know that was bad, i could do better if you give me some time... |
True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
10532
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Posted - 2014.06.09 21:01:00 -
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Louis Domi wrote:Violence only breeds more violence
Tanks only breeds more tanks.
Tell me that this does not sound familar to you:
In a match, Enemy team has 4 tanks, kills alot of infantry men, My team brings out 4 tanks, Kills the other tanks, goes on to kill alot of enemy infantry, Enemy team then brings out another 4 tanks, and the cycle continues, till whatever team wins.(For ambush just say it is 2 tanks instead of 4
How can we stop the senseless tank spam? When will people start bring out their AV fits? When will scotty put the Tank spammers in a battle with just other tank spammers? When will CCP make a vehicle only game mode, and an infantry only game mode and call it a day? Why can't the Splash damage on all explosive weapons be just as powerful as direct damage? I mean come on IRL if you throw an explosive at someone and it lands right on the ground less than 1 foot from them, don't you think that would kill them? Think People! We need answers!
Players do not have the right to complain about HAV if they are unwilling to bring their own counter units (AV or HAV) to deal with them.
No I will not stop making use of the 20 Million SP I skilled into my Tank, your enjoyment is not my responsibility as I cannot adequately gauge how my actions affect your experience, even if I could, if retaining the experience of other players ruined my own it is not morally wrong for me to place my own personal experience above that of those I am fighting.
Ambush however is a joke, its a boring ass gamemode that for some reason most of the community attempts to reason balance issues on...... it however should be infantry only, however pay out less for the considerably lesser risks involved.
"You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength."
-Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
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Louis Domi
Pradox One Proficiency V.
363
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Posted - 2014.06.09 21:09:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Louis Domi wrote:Violence only breeds more violence
Tanks only breeds more tanks.
Tell me that this does not sound familar to you:
In a match, Enemy team has 4 tanks, kills alot of infantry men, My team brings out 4 tanks, Kills the other tanks, goes on to kill alot of enemy infantry, Enemy team then brings out another 4 tanks, and the cycle continues, till whatever team wins.(For ambush just say it is 2 tanks instead of 4
How can we stop the senseless tank spam? When will people start bring out their AV fits? When will scotty put the Tank spammers in a battle with just other tank spammers? When will CCP make a vehicle only game mode, and an infantry only game mode and call it a day? Why can't the Splash damage on all explosive weapons be just as powerful as direct damage? I mean come on IRL if you throw an explosive at someone and it lands right on the ground less than 1 foot from them, don't you think that would kill them? Think People! We need answers! Players do not have the right to complain about HAV if they are unwilling to bring their own counter units (AV or HAV) to deal with them. No I will not stop making use of the 20 Million SP I skilled into my Tank, your enjoyment is not my responsibility as I cannot adequately gauge how my actions affect your experience, even if I could, if retaining the experience of other players ruined my own it is not morally wrong for me to place my own personal experience above that of those I am fighting. Ambush however is a joke, its a boring ass gamemode that for some reason most of the community attempts to reason balance issues on...... it however should be infantry only, however pay out less for the considerably lesser risks involved.
Atleast say something about the other questions I asked... |
Cat Merc
Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION
10247
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Posted - 2014.06.09 21:13:00 -
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Louis Domi wrote:Cat Merc wrote:People will bring out their AV fits when it's economical and viable compared to bringing a tank. It isn't. You forgot to answer the rest of my questions... Oh wait i meant to say the rest of Meows questions.. Hahaha You get it? Cause you're a cat merc and i said Meow instead of my... I know that was bad, i could do better if you give me some time... It's completely fine that battles escalate that way. The problem is that it's the only way to escalate it, AV isn't viable enough.
Bringing AV should be just as viable as bringing a tank to the battlefield to deal with the opposing enemy forces.
Feline overlord of all humans - CAT MERC
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True Adamance
Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
10533
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Posted - 2014.06.09 22:49:00 -
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Louis Domi wrote:True Adamance wrote:Louis Domi wrote:Violence only breeds more violence
Tanks only breeds more tanks.
Tell me that this does not sound familar to you:
In a match, Enemy team has 4 tanks, kills alot of infantry men, My team brings out 4 tanks, Kills the other tanks, goes on to kill alot of enemy infantry, Enemy team then brings out another 4 tanks, and the cycle continues, till whatever team wins.(For ambush just say it is 2 tanks instead of 4
How can we stop the senseless tank spam? When will people start bring out their AV fits? When will scotty put the Tank spammers in a battle with just other tank spammers? When will CCP make a vehicle only game mode, and an infantry only game mode and call it a day? Why can't the Splash damage on all explosive weapons be just as powerful as direct damage? I mean come on IRL if you throw an explosive at someone and it lands right on the ground less than 1 foot from them, don't you think that would kill them? Think People! We need answers! Players do not have the right to complain about HAV if they are unwilling to bring their own counter units (AV or HAV) to deal with them. No I will not stop making use of the 20 Million SP I skilled into my Tank, your enjoyment is not my responsibility as I cannot adequately gauge how my actions affect your experience, even if I could, if retaining the experience of other players ruined my own it is not morally wrong for me to place my own personal experience above that of those I am fighting. Ambush however is a joke, its a boring ass gamemode that for some reason most of the community attempts to reason balance issues on...... it however should be infantry only, however pay out less for the considerably lesser risks involved. Atleast say something about the other questions I asked...
Segregation of the player is ridiculous, being able to use whatever assets you like when you like is a tenet of EVE and New Eden, you don't have CCP segregating those who like to use Assault Cruisers from those who like to use Frigates, Destroyers, etc because they were unwilling to deploy the correct equipment to adequately deal with the situation.
I spent half of yesterday evening running from a Navy Vexor and Slicer because our ships weren't favourable for combat, but we could have taken on and engaged other Frigates and Destroyers. We could have reshipped our course and taken the correct assets to combat the threat...... exactly like in Dust.
I see a threatening tank? I certainly don't go at it with an Assault Rifle I pick up the correct AV option of HAV option and attempt to fight back.
As for infantry and vehicle only game modes. If such is to be implemented the Ambush would be the logical infantry choice while elimination based Vehicle modes.
Additionally the pay outs should adequately reflect the potential ISK invested.. Ambushes pay out between 150K-300+K ISK as Vehicle users are investing well over between 150-500+K ISK to even deploy the rewards for the battle should be proportionally higher bearing in mind that one team has to lose their assets/ investments for the other team to win. As ISK lost = proportionally higher than a standard ambush = payout must be proportionately higher.
We also live in a universe where we can warp travel Billions of KM in 10 Minutes....... where personal shields and Nano machines protect us from harm and we come back to life every time we die because of a infomorphic technologically advanced entity produced immortality.......
Additionally you are talking about giving missiles with their high AoE 425 splash explosive damage and Railguns in excess of 1500 for only grazing hits.........
"You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength."
-Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
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Louis Domi
Pradox One Proficiency V.
365
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Posted - 2014.06.09 22:51:00 -
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True Adamance wrote:Louis Domi wrote:True Adamance wrote:Louis Domi wrote:Violence only breeds more violence
Tanks only breeds more tanks.
Tell me that this does not sound familar to you:
In a match, Enemy team has 4 tanks, kills alot of infantry men, My team brings out 4 tanks, Kills the other tanks, goes on to kill alot of enemy infantry, Enemy team then brings out another 4 tanks, and the cycle continues, till whatever team wins.(For ambush just say it is 2 tanks instead of 4
How can we stop the senseless tank spam? When will people start bring out their AV fits? When will scotty put the Tank spammers in a battle with just other tank spammers? When will CCP make a vehicle only game mode, and an infantry only game mode and call it a day? Why can't the Splash damage on all explosive weapons be just as powerful as direct damage? I mean come on IRL if you throw an explosive at someone and it lands right on the ground less than 1 foot from them, don't you think that would kill them? Think People! We need answers! Players do not have the right to complain about HAV if they are unwilling to bring their own counter units (AV or HAV) to deal with them. No I will not stop making use of the 20 Million SP I skilled into my Tank, your enjoyment is not my responsibility as I cannot adequately gauge how my actions affect your experience, even if I could, if retaining the experience of other players ruined my own it is not morally wrong for me to place my own personal experience above that of those I am fighting. Ambush however is a joke, its a boring ass gamemode that for some reason most of the community attempts to reason balance issues on...... it however should be infantry only, however pay out less for the considerably lesser risks involved. Atleast say something about the other questions I asked... Segregation of the player is ridiculous, being able to use whatever assets you like when you like is a tenet of EVE and New Eden, you don't have CCP segregating those who like to use Assault Cruisers from those who like to use Frigates, Destroyers, etc because they were unwilling to deploy the correct equipment to adequately deal with the situation. I spent half of yesterday evening running from a Navy Vexor and Slicer because our ships weren't favourable for combat, but we could have taken on and engaged other Frigates and Destroyers. We could have reshipped our course and taken the correct assets to combat the threat...... exactly like in Dust. I see a threatening tank? I certainly don't go at it with an Assault Rifle I pick up the correct AV option of HAV option and attempt to fight back. As for infantry and vehicle only game modes. If such is to be implemented the Ambush would be the logical infantry choice while elimination based Vehicle modes. Additionally the pay outs should adequately reflect the potential ISK invested.. Ambushes pay out between 150K-300+K ISK as Vehicle users are investing well over between 150-500+K ISK to even deploy the rewards for the battle should be proportionally higher bearing in mind that one team has to lose their assets/ investments for the other team to win. As ISK lost = proportionally higher than a standard ambush = payout must be proportionately higher. We also live in a universe where we can warp travel Billions of KM in 10 Minutes....... where personal shields and Nano machines protect us from harm and we come back to life every time we die because of a infomorphic technologically advanced entity produced immortality....... Additionally you are talking about giving missiles with their high AoE 425 splash explosive damage and Railguns in excess of 1500 for only grazing hits......... Thank you for taking the time to answer my questions |
Kaughst
Nyain San General Tso's Alliance
511
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Posted - 2014.06.09 22:51:00 -
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Yes, lets not bring out anymore than 2 tanks. It might expose how unbalanced they are and force CCP to do something about it.
"He said he has a alt in STB."
"Everyone has a alt in STB."
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Thurak1
Psygod9
779
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Posted - 2014.06.09 23:59:00 -
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Louis Domi wrote:Violence only breeds more violence
Tanks only breeds more tanks.
Tell me that this does not sound familar to you:
In a match, Enemy team has 4 tanks, kills alot of infantry men, My team brings out 4 tanks, Kills the other tanks, goes on to kill alot of enemy infantry, Enemy team then brings out another 4 tanks, and the cycle continues, till whatever team wins.(For ambush just say it is 2 tanks instead of 4
How can we stop the senseless tank spam? When will people start bring out their AV fits? When will scotty put the Tank spammers in a battle with just other tank spammers? When will CCP make a vehicle only game mode, and an infantry only game mode and call it a day? Why can't the Splash damage on all explosive weapons be just as powerful as direct damage? I mean come on IRL if you throw an explosive at someone and it lands right on the ground less than 1 foot from them, don't you think that would kill them? Think People! We need answers! AV suits are useless. Make them viable and people will use them. Right now best way to counter a tank is with a tank or a jihad jeep. |
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Scheneighnay McBob
The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance
5203
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Posted - 2014.06.10 00:01:00 -
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Cat Merc wrote:People will bring out their AV fits when it's economical and viable compared to bringing a tank. It isn't. There are times when it is and times when it isn't.
When there's a blaster HAV rolling around, I'll bring out a rail HAV. When there's a high-tier rail HAV (or several), **** that, I'm bringing out a forge or swarms.
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