Atiim = party proper, taking all the fun away in the war room.

He is forgetting the part where we, as a corp in a meeting he was present in twice, decided to go on stasis and leave MH until the heat died down about us helping ERA all the time.

Isn't that funny as hell? Lmao Oh, the ironies happening around here.

We'd get our sh*t kicked in by a decent corp and we'd blame one another and go on talking about how we should improve... but never follow through.

You mean the MULTIPLE meeting where we were going to keep our heads low...
Once again all talk, ZERO action.

We continued to launch attacks.
We were told multiple times that we were going to shift our districts to ERA because we didn't want them anymore. Whoops, I guess we spaced out on that. They sat there for 2-days, then were mass attacked... more in-action by leadership. And, those districts would have been left alone if our leadership kept its mouth shut to Zatara and Tibs. But they through rocks, and ran away leaving all TEN of us to defend 7 districts in one night!
We were told to defend against the mass attack while ALL of the leadership was playing other games or PS4 (including you, blaze) then afterwards told that we should just forfeit (which I decided to do anyway, because we were beat)

Once again, all talk, talk, talk and zero follow through...
Now, HvLP is talking again... about what? Who knows, it depends who you talk to, because nobody, especially leadership, in that corp is on the same page.
Kal was recruited, and rang against ERA a few hours later. Because he didn't know who the allies were. Because you foolishly keep leaving alliances because you think you can go off on your own... which is a major factor of how we were went on a 10-game PC losing streak... Kal had every right to ring as an individual for who, against whom, ever he wanted. So does SoTa, Solar, myself, etc, etc, etc...
You were given ideas on how to improve your corp, and you didn't take them.
You left your members in the dark, and lost the corp wallet!


But HvLP keeps make bad decisions, and trying to silver toungue them to its members, without any follow through.


Now, to make this all about me!

I told HvLP to attack PX1, along with other members. You laucned a clonepack, we beat the crap out of them, then we're told "we can't do a follow up attack, because we can't let the corp wallet sink below a certian amount"
Yet, we spent 200M on clonepacks against PX1 and DL, and all within 2 hours of timers, so we had to no-show some of those skirms and lose even more ISK.

All the contracts you gained from other corps were done so by NON-directors, like Killia, and Data. I told you to make them directors because they were actually doing work for the corp, and you didn't do it, so they left, taking their connections with them.

I told ice to get Kalante. She did. But, it was my idea. Because I knew it was a good idea, and a do-able one.

I told HvLP to go back to NF or DNS... they never did until ice came back (2 weeks later). And they didn't stick around because they thought Spero and Black were still in control... which they are in the shadows.

I tried recruiting top slayers (which he badly needed) and they left because there was no incentive by leadership to have them stay.

Our vehicle squad was winning matches, but we'd be the first to get b*tched at if things went wrong. Gosh forbid we try to deal with the enemy spamming vehicles on us, AND trying to protect you with blasters because you can't shoot for crap.

I suggested we change roles, and tactics, because of our high clone loss in every match... nope. We kept fielding the same 16 guys over and over, while decent players like Atiim (YES, WAR ROOM. ATIIM IS ACTUALLY A GOOD PLAYER, GET OVER IT) sat on the sidelines and couldn't get experience. Same goes for a lot of members. We'd have 30 members on, and couldn't even fill a team anymore for a PC, because moral was at an all time low.


Sorry, HvLP. But you had your 15 minutes of rise and fame, and BLEW it. Heads got to swollen. We'd win a matcha gainst scrubs and act like we were the top corp in the game. We'd get our sh*t kicked in by a decent corp and we'd blame one another and go on talking about how we should improve... but never follow through.
Meanwhile, people like Zatara saw right through it, and warned you what would happen. TLoDt was falling apart from within as well, but we disintegrated faster and we couldn't capitalize.

Atiim's post is too long and there's no caps locks, so I didn't read it.

Atiim, you need to FIX YOUR CAPS LOCK GAME.

was the topic name changed? someone got scolded

So I assume that all of the times we've q-synced against each-other was simply us holding hands and singing Kumbayah at some boyscout bonfire as opposed to improving our tactics and synergy?

You mean the MULTIPLE meeting where we were going to keep our heads low...
Once again all talk, ZERO action.

We continued to launch attacks.
We were told multiple times that we were going to shift our districts to ERA because we didn't want them anymore. Whoops, I guess we spaced out on that. They sat there for 2-days, then were mass attacked... more in-action by leadership. And, those districts would have been left alone if our leadership kept its mouth shut to Zatara and Tibs. But they through rocks, and ran away leaving all TEN of us to defend 7 districts in one night!
We were told to defend against the mass attack while ALL of the leadership was playing other games or PS4 (including you, blaze) then afterwards told that we should just forfeit (which I decided to do anyway, because we were beat)

Once again, all talk, talk, talk and zero follow through...
Now, HvLP is talking again... about what? Who knows, it depends who you talk to, because nobody, especially leadership, in that corp is on the same page.
Kal was recruited, and rang against ERA a few hours later. Because he didn't know who the allies were. Because you foolishly keep leaving alliances because you think you can go off on your own... which is a major factor of how we were went on a 10-game PC losing streak... Kal had every right to ring as an individual for who, against whom, ever he wanted. So does SoTa, Solar, myself, etc, etc, etc...
You were given ideas on how to improve your corp, and you didn't take them.
You left your members in the dark, and lost the corp wallet!


But HvLP keeps make bad decisions, and trying to silver toungue them to its members, without any follow through.


Now, to make this all about me!

I told HvLP to attack PX1, along with other members. You laucned a clonepack, we beat the crap out of them, then we're told "we can't do a follow up attack, because we can't let the corp wallet sink below a certian amount"
Yet, we spent 200M on clonepacks against PX1 and DL, and all within 2 hours of timers, so we had to no-show some of those skirms and lose even more ISK.

All the contracts you gained from other corps were done so by NON-directors, like Killia, and Data. I told you to make them directors because they were actually doing work for the corp, and you didn't do it, so they left, taking their connections with them.

I told ice to get Kalante. She did. But, it was my idea. Because I knew it was a good idea, and a do-able one.

I told HvLP to go back to NF or DNS... they never did until ice came back (2 weeks later). And they didn't stick around because they thought Spero and Black were still in control... which they are in the shadows.

I tried recruiting top slayers (which he badly needed) and they left because there was no incentive by leadership to have them stay.

Our vehicle squad was winning matches, but we'd be the first to get b*tched at if things went wrong. Gosh forbid we try to deal with the enemy spamming vehicles on us, AND trying to protect you with blasters because you can't shoot for crap.

I suggested we change roles, and tactics, because of our high clone loss in every match... nope. We kept fielding the same 16 guys over and over, while decent players like Atiim (YES, WAR ROOM. ATIIM IS ACTUALLY A GOOD PLAYER, GET OVER IT) sat on the sidelines and couldn't get experience. Same goes for a lot of members. We'd have 30 members on, and couldn't even fill a team anymore for a PC, because moral was at an all time low.


Sorry, HvLP. But you had your 15 minutes of rise and fame, and BLEW it. Heads got to swollen. We'd win a matcha gainst scrubs and act like we were the top corp in the game. We'd get our sh*t kicked in by a decent corp and we'd blame one another and go on talking about how we should improve... but never follow through.
Meanwhile, people like Zatara saw right through it, and warned you what would happen. TLoDt was falling apart from within as well, but we disintegrated faster and we couldn't capitalize.

SoTa.. you make it hard to dislike you. Good luck

There is still absolutely no way Atim is a good player. He can still have my troll babies tho

People say the same thing about 8213.

Bad comparison. I don't think Atiim is bad.

8123, on the other hand...

Since his joining of HvLP I can say this confidently:

8213 is a fantastic player and asset to any team. HvLP may not of ever seen the success it had without him.

I like Atim's forum personality

but you really pissed me off

just now when you used the wrong "there"

and a few words later

used the correct "they're"

Dafuq man?

Got me posting like Chance

I mean, he seems alright when he is assisted by a triple damage modded Particle Cannon, but when he gets beat he calls you a lag switcher.

I mean, he seems alright when he is assisted by a triple damage modded Particle Cannon, but when he gets beat he calls you a lag switcher.

To use that saying Rampage the other person would have to be a liar aswell. When have I lied? I did love it in Ra,fought for them tooth and nail. I will still support DDB if they ask for it.

Didn't you use to love RA and be all about AE? Or is this a great example of the pot calling the kettle black?

Here's the deal... and HvLP leadership doesn't see it...


HvLP leadership is all TALK, no action. When the talking got stale, we went to ERA, where they have structure, leadership, and ACTION.

HvLP was run into the ground from the inside down, and largely due to the fact that the leadership abandoned the corp... they talked a lot of smack and p*ssed off 0.H and LoDT, but weren't on to lead against the mass attack they induced. They left us to die...
Because HvLP fielded the SAME 16 players in every PC, not allowing our other players to gain experience. Because yes, when we fight RED-SCORPION LATINOS, we need to bring the HvLP A-Team
...

Do you have any idea how embarrassing it was to be in a warbage against an 0.H re-up and only having 10 scattered people?
Do you have any idea what its like to have a CEO get back-stabbed and thwarted while she was away from the game NOT BY CHOICE, and see her corp run into the ground?
Then, when she did come back, watch history repeat itself, because HvLP has to many big talkers and not enough walkers.

A large exodus from HvLP was done by our own free will, and we accepted offers to ERA, because they provided us something we wanted from a corp. HvLP betrayed themselves, and have nobody to blame but themselves. And its very, very sad. Because that corp had everything going for it, and in the span of 2 days it was kicked out of MH, mocked, and extorted.

I myself LOVED HvLP, and join because of my relationship with Ice. I never asked anything from the corp, except once when my tank loss eventually built up to a point where I needed some ISK. (I lost probably 40 tanks before I asked for compensation from after a fight). I want to be in HvLP, I want to be with my firends, but HvLP has to get their act together.

whoa ima stop you right their HvLP leadership ddnt abandon its players I was a leader of HvLP at the time and I disappeared because I had surgery done on my knee and was in too much pain to even get on idk about the other leadership but to say all leadership "abandoned" HvLP is lie itself because you can ask any1 that was really HvLP that I tried to get on to the upmost of my abilities. i even got on while i was loopy as ever on pain meds. gave the guys quite the show to listen to i guess also.

You mean the MULTIPLE meeting where we were going to keep our heads low...
Once again all talk, ZERO action.

We continued to launch attacks.
We were told multiple times that we were going to shift our districts to ERA because we didn't want them anymore. Whoops, I guess we spaced out on that. They sat there for 2-days, then were mass attacked... more in-action by leadership. And, those districts would have been left alone if our leadership kept its mouth shut to Zatara and Tibs. But they through rocks, and ran away leaving all TEN of us to defend 7 districts in one night!
We were told to defend against the mass attack while ALL of the leadership was playing other games or PS4 (including you, blaze) then afterwards told that we should just forfeit (which I decided to do anyway, because we were beat)

Once again, all talk, talk, talk and zero follow through...
Now, HvLP is talking again... about what? Who knows, it depends who you talk to, because nobody, especially leadership, in that corp is on the same page.
Kal was recruited, and rang against ERA a few hours later. Because he didn't know who the allies were. Because you foolishly keep leaving alliances because you think you can go off on your own... which is a major factor of how we were went on a 10-game PC losing streak... Kal had every right to ring as an individual for who, against whom, ever he wanted. So does SoTa, Solar, myself, etc, etc, etc...
You were given ideas on how to improve your corp, and you didn't take them.
You left your members in the dark, and lost the corp wallet!


But HvLP keeps make bad decisions, and trying to silver toungue them to its members, without any follow through.


Now, to make this all about me!

I told HvLP to attack PX1, along with other members. You laucned a clonepack, we beat the crap out of them, then we're told "we can't do a follow up attack, because we can't let the corp wallet sink below a certian amount"
Yet, we spent 200M on clonepacks against PX1 and DL, and all within 2 hours of timers, so we had to no-show some of those skirms and lose even more ISK.

All the contracts you gained from other corps were done so by NON-directors, like Killia, and Data. I told you to make them directors because they were actually doing work for the corp, and you didn't do it, so they left, taking their connections with them.

I told ice to get Kalante. She did. But, it was my idea. Because I knew it was a good idea, and a do-able one.

I told HvLP to go back to NF or DNS... they never did until ice came back (2 weeks later). And they didn't stick around because they thought Spero and Black were still in control... which they are in the shadows.

I tried recruiting top slayers (which he badly needed) and they left because there was no incentive by leadership to have them stay.

Our vehicle squad was winning matches, but we'd be the first to get b*tched at if things went wrong. Gosh forbid we try to deal with the enemy spamming vehicles on us, AND trying to protect you with blasters because you can't shoot for crap.

I suggested we change roles, and tactics, because of our high clone loss in every match... nope. We kept fielding the same 16 guys over and over, while decent players like Atiim (YES, WAR ROOM. ATIIM IS ACTUALLY A GOOD PLAYER, GET OVER IT) sat on the sidelines and couldn't get experience. Same goes for a lot of members. We'd have 30 members on, and couldn't even fill a team anymore for a PC, because moral was at an all time low.


Sorry, HvLP. But you had your 15 minutes of rise and fame, and BLEW it. Heads got to swollen. We'd win a matcha gainst scrubs and act like we were the top corp in the game. We'd get our sh*t kicked in by a decent corp and we'd blame one another and go on talking about how we should improve... but never follow through.
Meanwhile, people like Zatara saw right through it, and warned you what would happen. TLoDt was falling apart from within as well, but we disintegrated faster and we couldn't capitalize.

8213:

You forgot to mention how one of the issues in Corp was you telling everyone they have no gun-game among other things.

That was very helpful on your part in improving the Corp and raising morale.

If you're going to be bad.... be bad with a purpose. Own it. Do not be calling out everyone and forget yourself.

Upon my return, and calling a Corp meeting, your name was mentioned repeatedly when I had asked what exactly was the problem, who in Corp had a bad attitude that negatively affected everyone else, etc, etc, etc.

If you're not helping to solve the problem, you're part of the problem itself.

I love ya, but I don't appreciate this.