DUST Search - Observations after returning to DUST after a month off

calisk galern wrote:

TechMechMeds wrote:

calisk galern wrote:

Aisha Ctarl wrote:

1) Still TANK 514
2) Tryhards are a plenty
3) ScR still feels weak
4) Amarr Scout is still terrible
5) Combat rifle is still God mode
6) Stacked teams every single match
7) Weapons still feel plastic like

In short, nothing changed.

most of those 7 points don't even matter that much.

tank 514 is about the only real issue on that list i'd like to see addressed, and they just nerfed the blaster to help address it and may not stop there.

honestly seems a bit like whining =/

if the SCR is bad switch weapons, if the ammar scout is bad switch suits.

if you honestly think the combat rifle is unbeatable...well i feel bad for you, RE's and scout suits with any weapon are currently the FOTM.

if you are getting beat by stacked teams then get a stacked squad, I solo and I do fine.

weapons feeling like plastic? ok?can't counter someones opinion.

Solo and do fine against newbs and anyone can solo fine in a scout fit.

Aye, much skill mate.

did I say I use scouts?

I run mim scout( kniving + re's for fun ), caldari commando, caldari heavi, tanks, last build I ran assault and logi...

i'm working on caldari scout atm so I can see if they actually are as good as most say, and mim logi for squad support.

i have over 50 mil+ sp I can pretty much do anything I want to do, and if I can't do it yet I can within a short time.

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Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares 4703	Posted - 2014.06.06 03:51:00 - [1] - Quote 1) Still TANK 514 2) Tryhards are a plenty 3) ScR still feels weak 4) Amarr Scout is still terrible 5) Combat rifle is still God mode 6) Stacked teams every single match 7) Weapons still feel plastic like In short, nothing changed.
Lynn Beck Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 1709	Posted - 2014.06.06 05:52:00 - [2] - Quote True. Still, at least they finally did SOMETHING to get the nubs out of scout suits(failed attempt maybe, helpful yes) General John Ripper Like ALL the things!!!
Meiko Shiraki A.P.E.X BRUTE FORCE 23	Posted - 2014.06.06 06:08:00 - [3] - Quote Lynn Beck wrote: True. Still, at least they finally did SOMETHING to get the nubs out of scout suits(failed attempt maybe, helpful yes) just skilled into scouts. <(^_ ^<)
steadyhand amarr shadows of 514 3154	Posted - 2014.06.06 08:08:00 - [4] - Quote Dust514 is flawed at its core i dont think its fixable without a full rebuild :-( "i dont care about you or your goals, just show me the dam isk" winner of EU squad cup GOGO power rangers
Ryme Intrinseca The Rainbow Effect 1314	Posted - 2014.06.06 08:38:00 - [5] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: 1) Still TANK 514 2) Tryhards are a plenty 3) ScR still feels weak 4) Amarr Scout is still terrible 5) Combat rifle is still God mode 6) Stacked teams every single match 7) Weapons still feel plastic like In short, nothing changed. I generally agree with this but tried a ScR+Amarr Assault V on an alt yesterday. It melts anything.
medomai grey WarRavens Final Resolution. 802	Posted - 2014.06.06 08:46:00 - [6] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: 1) Still TANK 514 2) Tryhards are a plenty 3) ScR still feels weak 4) Amarr Scout is still terrible 5) Combat rifle is still God mode 6) Stacked teams every single match 7) Weapons still feel plastic like In short, nothing changed. Pretty much. But what makes weapons feel "plastic like"? I've heard similar testimony regarding the subject before, but never understood why players feel that way. Is it the way it sounds, looks, behaves? Medium frame EHP is not medium
Xocoyol Zaraoul Superior Genetics 1932	Posted - 2014.06.06 09:34:00 - [7] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: 1) Still TANK 514 2) Tryhards are a plenty 3) ScR still feels weak 4) Amarr Scout is still terrible 5) Combat rifle is still God mode 6) Stacked teams every single match 7) Weapons still feel plastic like In short, nothing changed. Gee, it's like we're using the same 1.8 build that we were using a month ago... Were you expecting the hotfix to magically change things the patch notes did not mention? "You see those red dots over there? Go and shoot them until you see a +50 on the screen" - Arkena Wyrnspire
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 14131	Posted - 2014.06.06 11:06:00 - [8] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: 3) ScR still feels weak TIL Aisha is terrible at DUST. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares 4708	Posted - 2014.06.06 11:37:00 - [9] - Quote medomai grey wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: 1) Still TANK 514 2) Tryhards are a plenty 3) ScR still feels weak 4) Amarr Scout is still terrible 5) Combat rifle is still God mode 6) Stacked teams every single match 7) Weapons still feel plastic like In short, nothing changed. Pretty much. But what makes weapons feel "plastic like"? I've heard similar testimony regarding the subject before, but never understood why players feel that way. Is it the way it sounds, looks, behaves? In a game like battlefield, the weapons have very distinct recoil and profiles making them feel unique and like actual weapons. In DUST, everything shoots in a laser beam of accuracy, and the weapons feel static.
TechMechMeds Inner.Hell 3512	Posted - 2014.06.06 13:23:00 - [10] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: 1) Still TANK 514 2) Tryhards are a plenty 3) ScR still feels weak 4) Amarr Scout is still terrible 5) Combat rifle is still God mode 6) Stacked teams every single match 7) Weapons still feel plastic like In short, nothing changed. Yep. I literally log on and don't want to play after about 10 mins but I stomach some games for my dust buddies. How much fking longer did they think dust will last with almost every match being a stomp or getting the sht team and getting stomped. Meh. Oh I could do PC but I'm not interested in getting trolled by newbcake scouts. And to think that 4 months ago I thought this game would at least get a bit good. Will play eve legion though but if major wars are settled over shtty little 16 merc scrimmages then I'll be gone in a heartbeat and I'll be done with any fps that CCP creates. The whole thing saddens me. If you stop moving You die Dance with me

TechMechMeds Inner.Hell 3512	Posted - 2014.06.06 13:26:00 - [11] - Quote medomai grey wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: 1) Still TANK 514 2) Tryhards are a plenty 3) ScR still feels weak 4) Amarr Scout is still terrible 5) Combat rifle is still God mode 6) Stacked teams every single match 7) Weapons still feel plastic like In short, nothing changed. Pretty much. But what makes weapons feel "plastic like"? I've heard similar testimony regarding the subject before, but never understood why players feel that way. Is it the way it sounds, looks, behaves? In planet side 2 the guns especially look like airsoft guns almost but they have recoil and better sounds quality. There's no vibration either but when I shoot my mini gun, you best believe its a fking mini gun. Not some lol mini gun that I can just run away from. If you stop moving You die Dance with me
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 9159	Posted - 2014.06.06 13:38:00 - [12] - Quote SCRs were never weak. Amarrians would prefer you be faithful. I'd rather you be logical. Your friendly neighborhood Swarm Scrub. -HAND
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares 4714	Posted - 2014.06.06 13:46:00 - [13] - Quote Atiim wrote: SCRs were never weak. True, but 139% to shields with proficiency V and still only 80% to armor is pretty terrible. It's noticeable when you get into someone's armor and you hit a brick wall.
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 9159	Posted - 2014.06.06 14:00:00 - [14] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Atiim wrote: SCRs were never weak. True, but 139% to shields with proficiency V and still only 80% to armor is pretty terrible. It's noticeable when you get into someone's armor and you hit a brick wall. Have you ever heard of a Locus Grenade? Amarrians would prefer you be faithful. I'd rather you be logical. Your friendly neighborhood Swarm Scrub. -HAND
jaksol JAK darnson Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 1	Posted - 2014.06.06 14:06:00 - [15] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: [quote=Aisha Ctarl] Will play eve legion though but if major wars are settled over shtty little 16 merc scrimmages then I'll be gone in a heartbeat and I'll be done with any fps that CCP creates. The whole thing saddens me. why does everyone seem to want bigger battles? i believe call of duty tried that was called ground-war and everyone HATED IT. (I know i did!) the data show that its not going to go well if they do put it in. "Sacrifice is a choice you make. Loss is a choice made for you."
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 27	Posted - 2014.06.06 14:50:00 - [16] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: 1) Still TANK 514 2) Tryhards are a plenty 3) ScR still feels weak 4) Amarr Scout is still terrible 5) Combat rifle is still God mode 6) Stacked teams every single match 7) Weapons still feel plastic like In short, nothing changed. 1, not as much as i remember it being a few month ago before they lowered the cap. 2. agree. 3. Scr is only weak in faultering hands, iv seen games where its dominant. 4. cannot comment except that cal scout is now dominant insted of gal. 5. disagree, combat rifle is great if its the L4 full auto variant but its on par with the AR's with atm are the Flavour of the month due to heavy stunlock introduced in alpha hotfix. 6. not soo much stacked as just a bunch of friends in a squad of 4+ being the decisive factor. 7. not really except some of the newer weapons. Nanite Injectors! Nanite Injectors Everywhere! Minmatar Logibro in training. Rusty needles anyone?
Boot Booter Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 544	Posted - 2014.06.06 15:14:00 - [17] - Quote Apothecary Za'ki wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: 1) Still TANK 514 2) Tryhards are a plenty 3) ScR still feels weak 4) Amarr Scout is still terrible 5) Combat rifle is still God mode 6) Stacked teams every single match 7) Weapons still feel plastic like In short, nothing changed. 1, not as much as i remember it being a few month ago before they lowered the cap. 2. agree. 3. Scr is only weak in faultering hands, iv seen games where its dominant. 4. cannot comment except that cal scout is now dominant insted of gal. 5. disagree, combat rifle is great if its the L4 full auto variant but its on par with the AR's with atm are the Flavour of the month due to heavy stunlock introduced in alpha hotfix. 6. not soo much stacked as just a bunch of friends in a squad of 4+ being the decisive factor. 7. not really except some of the newer weapons. THERE IS NO STUNLOCK ANYMORE SMG Specialist
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2537	Posted - 2014.06.06 15:26:00 - [18] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: 1) Still TANK 514 2) Tryhards are a plenty 3) ScR still feels weak 4) Amarr Scout is still terrible 5) Combat rifle is still God mode 6) Stacked teams every single match 7) Weapons still feel plastic like In short, nothing changed. most of those 7 points don't even matter that much. tank 514 is about the only real issue on that list i'd like to see addressed, and they just nerfed the blaster to help address it and may not stop their. honestly seems a bit like whining =/ if the SCR is bad switch weapons, if the ammar scout is bad switch suits. if you honestly think the combat rifle is unbeatable...well i feel bad for you, RE's and scout suits with any weapon are currently the FOTM. if you are getting beat by stacked teams then get a stacked squad, I solo and I do fine. weapons feeling like plastic? ok?can't counter someones opinion.
TechMechMeds Inner.Hell 3517	Posted - 2014.06.06 16:40:00 - [19] - Quote jaksol JAK darnson wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: [quote=Aisha Ctarl] Will play eve legion though but if major wars are settled over shtty little 16 merc scrimmages then I'll be gone in a heartbeat and I'll be done with any fps that CCP creates. The whole thing saddens me. why does everyone seem to want bigger battles? i believe call of duty tried that was called ground-war and everyone HATED IT. (I know i did!) the data show that its not going to go well if they do put it in. Likewise, why do people want tiny arena matches. Kind of got old by 2000 mate. Also, console people are awful on larger scale games because they are used to tiny matches. Regardless, it works both ways doesn't it. And also. You are talking about many players in a small arena with no other objective but to kill each other and no proper classes, tanks or aircraft. Cod always was and is a terrible shtty scrub shooter that anyone can get good at. Its a feel good game for casuals just like dust. If you stop moving You die Dance with me
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 9161	Posted - 2014.06.06 16:42:00 - [20] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: Also, console people are awful on larger scale games because they are used to tiny matches. Regardless, it works both ways doesn't it. Source? Amarrians would prefer you be faithful. I'd rather you be logical. Your friendly neighborhood Swarm Scrub. -HAND

pegasis prime PROTO WOLVES 1758	Posted - 2014.06.06 16:43:00 - [21] - Quote jaksol JAK darnson wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: [quote=Aisha Ctarl] Will play eve legion though but if major wars are settled over shtty little 16 merc scrimmages then I'll be gone in a heartbeat and I'll be done with any fps that CCP creates. The whole thing saddens me. why does everyone seem to want bigger battles? i believe call of duty tried that was called ground-war and everyone HATED IT. (I know i did!) the data show that its not going to go well if they do put it in. Mag 256 players on 1 battlefield ....nuf said . Proud Gunlogi pilot and forge gunner since August 2012. I fought and bled for the State on Caldari prime.
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 14141	Posted - 2014.06.06 16:44:00 - [22] - Quote Atiim wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Also, console people are awful on larger scale games because they are used to tiny matches. Regardless, it works both ways doesn't it. Source? Source: A random nerd on the forums. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
TechMechMeds Inner.Hell 3517	Posted - 2014.06.06 16:45:00 - [23] - Quote calisk galern wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: 1) Still TANK 514 2) Tryhards are a plenty 3) ScR still feels weak 4) Amarr Scout is still terrible 5) Combat rifle is still God mode 6) Stacked teams every single match 7) Weapons still feel plastic like In short, nothing changed. most of those 7 points don't even matter that much. tank 514 is about the only real issue on that list i'd like to see addressed, and they just nerfed the blaster to help address it and may not stop there. honestly seems a bit like whining =/ if the SCR is bad switch weapons, if the ammar scout is bad switch suits. if you honestly think the combat rifle is unbeatable...well i feel bad for you, RE's and scout suits with any weapon are currently the FOTM. if you are getting beat by stacked teams then get a stacked squad, I solo and I do fine. weapons feeling like plastic? ok?can't counter someones opinion. Solo and do fine against newbs and anyone can solo fine in a scout fit. Aye, much skill mate. If you stop moving You die Dance with me
calisk galern BurgezzE.T.F General Tso's Alliance 2537	Posted - 2014.06.06 16:54:00 - [24] - Quote TechMechMeds wrote: calisk galern wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: 1) Still TANK 514 2) Tryhards are a plenty 3) ScR still feels weak 4) Amarr Scout is still terrible 5) Combat rifle is still God mode 6) Stacked teams every single match 7) Weapons still feel plastic like In short, nothing changed. most of those 7 points don't even matter that much. tank 514 is about the only real issue on that list i'd like to see addressed, and they just nerfed the blaster to help address it and may not stop there. honestly seems a bit like whining =/ if the SCR is bad switch weapons, if the ammar scout is bad switch suits. if you honestly think the combat rifle is unbeatable...well i feel bad for you, RE's and scout suits with any weapon are currently the FOTM. if you are getting beat by stacked teams then get a stacked squad, I solo and I do fine. weapons feeling like plastic? ok?can't counter someones opinion. Solo and do fine against newbs and anyone can solo fine in a scout fit. Aye, much skill mate. did I say I use scouts? I run mim scout( kniving + re's for fun ), caldari commando, caldari heavi, tanks. i'm working on caldari scout atm so I can see if they actually are as good as most say, and mim logi for squad support. i have over 50 mil+ sp I can pretty much do anything I want to do, and if I can't do it yet I can within a short time.
TechMechMeds Inner.Hell 3517	Posted - 2014.06.06 16:59:00 - [25] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Atiim wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: Also, console people are awful on larger scale games because they are used to tiny matches. Regardless, it works both ways doesn't it. Source? Source: A random nerd on the forums. Lol. Sources?. you guys had mag........thats it. And that was just a pile of ish that made you think it was epic when it was just a bunch of small matches happening at the same time. And people still generally sucked bad at that lol. even bf4 is small fry seriously. ill be going on pplanetside2 on my ps4 just to laugh and confirm, it will be like watching a bunch of headless chickens BUT i do believe they have dumbed the hell out of it for people and there may even be aim assist............... Consoles life story - It got nerfed and then an expansion came out. I am both a console and pc gamer and intelligence drops dramatically on consoles. To own and use a pc requires at least some modicum of intellect and logic, Console holds your hand all the way. looking forward for star wars battlefront for sure though, cant wait for that. If you stop moving You die Dance with me
TechMechMeds Inner.Hell 3517	Posted - 2014.06.06 17:00:00 - [26] - Quote calisk galern wrote: TechMechMeds wrote: calisk galern wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: 1) Still TANK 514 2) Tryhards are a plenty 3) ScR still feels weak 4) Amarr Scout is still terrible 5) Combat rifle is still God mode 6) Stacked teams every single match 7) Weapons still feel plastic like In short, nothing changed. most of those 7 points don't even matter that much. tank 514 is about the only real issue on that list i'd like to see addressed, and they just nerfed the blaster to help address it and may not stop there. honestly seems a bit like whining =/ if the SCR is bad switch weapons, if the ammar scout is bad switch suits. if you honestly think the combat rifle is unbeatable...well i feel bad for you, RE's and scout suits with any weapon are currently the FOTM. if you are getting beat by stacked teams then get a stacked squad, I solo and I do fine. weapons feeling like plastic? ok?can't counter someones opinion. Solo and do fine against newbs and anyone can solo fine in a scout fit. Aye, much skill mate. did I say I use scouts? I run mim scout( kniving + re's for fun ), caldari commando, caldari heavi, tanks, last build I ran assault and logi... i'm working on caldari scout atm so I can see if they actually are as good as most say, and mim logi for squad support. i have over 50 mil+ sp I can pretty much do anything I want to do, and if I can't do it yet I can within a short time. Mistook you for one of the new jumped up fotm newbcakes. I am truly sorry. If you stop moving You die Dance with me


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