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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:

Atiim wrote:

HMG = AR = CR = RR = ScR

ScRs are still viable if you only fight Shield Tankers, which should be increasingly common once the Shield/Armor imbalance is taken care of.

Plasma Rifles got the buff they finally needed, and are now the HMG of Conventional Rifles. Even the Breach PR is in a good place now. Shocked

Not sure if trolling or terrible.

ScR is entirely viable against armour tankers as well, unless it's against a Galsent or something (but none of the rifles bar the burst CR really have the stopping power for that).

The ACR is still better than the AR in pretty much every way that counts, although at least DPS is about equal now.

Suggesting any of the rifles is the equal of the HMG is laughable. Have you used that monster lately? It destroys all life. Not even the CR can match it.

And... the breach PR? In a good place?

It has the lowest DPS by far of any automatic weapon. Hell, a flaylock can compete with its damage output on splash. As well as the shortest rifle range and the lowest automatic RoF.

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Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares 4700	Posted - 2014.06.05 16:50:00 - [1] - Quote What are the current viable weapons of DUST? Lay it on me. I'd assume... 1) CR 2) PR 3) SG/SMG/Magsec 4) The pistols 5) MD 6) ScR 7) LR 8) AV 9) PC
One Eyed King Land of the BIind 1815	Posted - 2014.06.05 17:05:00 - [2] - Quote Did you forget AR on purpose? Those seem to be increasing lately, which I think is a good sign given where they were. Not to mention shotguns, which should be No.1. I would like to see the numbers of those mercs running around with shotguns, but some games seems like its a majority. So much so I don't even get mad anymore when someone using something else kills me. The REAL Internet King
2Berries Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 158	Posted - 2014.06.05 17:19:00 - [3] - Quote PR=AR. It's the RR that is missing. From playing some last night, i want to say all weapons types are viable. Dusted off the gek last night & had a blast (puntastic)! While the tac PR is still pointless when compared to other variants, it seems PR's are back in contention with the CR & RR. SCR never stopped being awesome, so your good there. Rumor has it the PLC can do work now, too. Pew pew, purr purr. I am the cool. Shamma lamma mu mu
Lorhak Gannarsein Legio DXIV 3394	Posted - 2014.06.05 17:34:00 - [4] - Quote ScR is super viable? I'm expecting shield buffs reasonably soon, and there should be more shield-heavy suits soon what with the armour changes and the ScR's massive alpha means reps aren't really a big deal. BlowoutForCPM
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares 4700	Posted - 2014.06.05 19:25:00 - [5] - Quote 2Berries wrote: PR=AR. It's the RR that is missing. From playing some last night, i want to say all weapons types are viable. Dusted off the gek last night & had a blast (puntastic)! While the tac PR is still pointless when compared to other variants, it seems PR's are back in contention with the CR & RR. SCR never stopped being awesome, so your good there. Rumor has it the PLC can do work now, too. Pew pew, purr purr. I actually planned on using the PR once I get back on.
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 9140	Posted - 2014.06.05 19:56:00 - [6] - Quote In terms of viability: HMG = AR = CR = RR = ScR \| MD = LR > PLC \| FG > SL >PLC ScRs are still viable if you only fight Shield Tankers, which should be increasingly common once the Shield/Armor imbalance is taken care of. Plasma Rifles got the buff they finally needed, and are now the HMG of Conventional Rifles. Even the Breach PR is good now. Amarrians would prefer you be faithful. I'd rather you be logical. Your friendly neighborhood Swarm Scrub. -HAND
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares 4700	Posted - 2014.06.05 20:23:00 - [7] - Quote Atiim wrote: In terms of viability: HMG = AR = CR = RR = ScR \| MD = LR > PLC \| FG > SL >PLC ScRs are still viable if you only fight Shield Tankers, which should be increasingly common once the Shield/Armor imbalance is taken care of. Plasma Rifles got the buff they finally needed, and are now the HMG of Conventional Rifles. Even the Breach PR is in a good place now. Time to dust off my Duvolle then!
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 9143	Posted - 2014.06.05 20:28:00 - [8] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Time to dust off my Duvolle then! You'll drop your jaw at how good it is. I guarantee it. Amarrians would prefer you be faithful. I'd rather you be logical. Your friendly neighborhood Swarm Scrub. -HAND
Immortal John Ripper 22338	Posted - 2014.06.05 20:32:00 - [9] - Quote flaylock kills everytime with perfect headshots Your heart's desire is to be told some mystery. The mystery is that there is no mystery. I am the Alpha and the Omega.
General John Ripper 22343	Posted - 2014.06.05 20:32:00 - [10] - Quote flaylock kills everytime with perfect headshots Your heart's desire is to be told some mystery. The mystery is that there is no mystery. I am the Alpha and the Omega.

Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 14112	Posted - 2014.06.05 20:42:00 - [11] - Quote Atiim wrote: HMG = AR = CR = RR = ScR ScRs are still viable if you only fight Shield Tankers, which should be increasingly common once the Shield/Armor imbalance is taken care of. Plasma Rifles got the buff they finally needed, and are now the HMG of Conventional Rifles. Even the Breach PR is in a good place now. Not sure if trolling or terrible. ScR is entirely viable against armour tankers as well, unless it's against a Galsent or something (but none of the rifles bar the burst CR really have the stopping power for that). The ACR is still better than the AR in pretty much every way that counts, although at least DPS is about equal now. Suggesting any of the rifles is the equal of the HMG is laughable. Have you used that monster lately? It destroys all life. Not even the CR can match it. And... the breach PR? In a good place? It has the lowest DPS by far of any automatic weapon. Hell, a flaylock can compete with its damage output on splash. As well as the shortest rifle range and the lowest automatic RoF. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Eko Sol Strange Playings 453	Posted - 2014.06.05 20:46:00 - [12] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: What are the current viable weapons of DUST? Lay it on me. I'd assume... 1) CR 2) PR 3) SG/SMG/Magsec 4) The pistols 5) MD 6) ScR 7) LR 8) AV 9) PC 1) CR and RR are in the same boat IMO 2) HMG 3) SCR (there is a much larger percentage of shield tanking Cal's since 1.8) 4) a non variant AR (i.e. not the tactical or breach) 5) Everything else is tied at 5th. EDIT: I changed it to indicate the HMG PSN is "Ekopalm" I play D3, Child of Light, and solo games Also, Proto Trolling until I'm broke...
I-Shayz-I I-----I 3586	Posted - 2014.06.05 20:47:00 - [13] - Quote I tried out my scrambler yesterday and ran up against 5 heavies. Managed to take out two and get the third to 10 armor but damn all this armor running around now (I'm so used to caldari scouts and standard scouts everywhere) My HMG is still fine. The ACR I think is PERFECT now...the CR gives me more trouble than I'd like though. Played 10 matches, and not a single RR on the field besides the random noobs trying out the gun (makes me want to spec into it...possibly...as much as I hate it) Oh and the PR is deadly now...but definitely not anywhere close to OP. I usually just laugh at Plasma rounds flying by, but now I actually have to take cover and not ignore them. Mass drivers have become very weak against heavies because of the repair buff (I was literally shrugging off the splash damage from a proto the other day because I could rep faster than he could do damage), and laser rifles are still annoying when in the right hands. Still need to try out the PLC, but in general, the weapons are all in a good place right now. 7162 wp with a Repair Tool! List of Legion Feedback Threads!
Spademan The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 1825	Posted - 2014.06.05 20:53:00 - [14] - Quote Ion Pistol is brokenly OP. I am part shovel, part man, full scout, and a little bit special. Official Time Lord of the Scout Community
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 14113	Posted - 2014.06.05 20:54:00 - [15] - Quote Spademan wrote: Ion Pistol is brokenly OP. Confirming. It's really good now. Take it to proto, definitely. And get proficiency. You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5868	Posted - 2014.06.05 20:56:00 - [16] - Quote Assault Rifles: PR is only better because the Combat Rifle was indirectly nerfed because Stun-Lock was removed. Out of all the Assault Rifles it's still the worse one so I wouldn't have it on the list but it is making progress. Sure I do great with the PR but I could be doing much, much, much better with any of the other assault rifles. Sidearms: Magsec is decent but completely overshadowed by the SMG which is way too good for what it's worth. Pistols....why are you using any of the pistols when you can use the two SMGs for the identical amount of CPU/PG and ISK. Literally no point in using a pistol competitively. That being said, the Ion Pistol is by far the worst pistol still. Bolt Pistol is much better since they allowed the pistols to have their actual range falloff and not just disappear after a certain range. Scrambler pistol is still the best but once again. Why use a pistol when you have the SMGs? Mass Driver: Good, Mostly used a lot now because you have people wanting to go easy mode in a heavy suit because that's the FoTM no-gungame choice atm. You really don't have to be smart with a heavy suit to do well, just fire like an idiot at a group and you'll get a kill. Of course not all heavies are stupid, just the stupid ones. Laser Rifle: It's a damn good support weapon at ranges especially in open maps. Only problem is the Redline Snipers that are just a cancer to this game. AV: AV grenades now pack more of a punch and Plasma Cannons can now actually scare away a tank. Taking out Shield Tanks with a PLC is now more than possible in most conditions and you can scare away armor tanks with the PLC. You'll need Plasma Cannon or Swarm Launcher Tag team to kill a really "good" tank. DUST 514 (The 514 stands for the server ping)
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5868	Posted - 2014.06.05 20:58:00 - [17] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Spademan wrote: Ion Pistol is brokenly OP. Confirming. It's really good now. Take it to proto, definitely. And get proficiency. Make sure to get the Optimization skill to level 5 for it to really shine DUST 514 (The 514 stands for the server ping)
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10484	Posted - 2014.06.05 21:26:00 - [18] - Quote Aisha if you aren't lasering right now you aren't even Amarrian. "You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength." -Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares 4700	Posted - 2014.06.05 21:28:00 - [19] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Aisha if you aren't lasering right now you aren't even Amarrian. Pulse lasering :3
Gooseman Manwhore CREATURES OF THE NIGHT 32	Posted - 2014.06.05 21:34:00 - [20] - Quote The BK-42 wrecks everyone's world. So does the M209. Nothing like destroying heavies in a light suit with only damage mods. I put the sexi in dyslexia

Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 5870	Posted - 2014.06.05 21:36:00 - [21] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Aisha if you aren't lasering right now you aren't even Amarrian. Coincidentally CCP has not a single skill point into lasers. They use the AUR version. DUST 514 (The 514 stands for the server ping)
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 9147	Posted - 2014.06.05 21:43:00 - [22] - Quote Arkena Wyrnspire wrote: Atiim wrote: HMG = AR = CR = RR = ScR ScRs are still viable if you only fight Shield Tankers, which should be increasingly common once the Shield/Armor imbalance is taken care of. Plasma Rifles got the buff they finally needed, and are now the HMG of Conventional Rifles. Even the Breach PR is in a good place now. Not sure if trolling or terrible. ScR is entirely viable against armour tankers as well, unless it's against a Galsent or something (but none of the rifles bar the burst CR really have the stopping power for that). The ACR is still better than the AR in pretty much every way that counts, although at least DPS is about equal now. Suggesting any of the rifles is the equal of the HMG is laughable. Have you used that monster lately? It destroys all life. Not even the CR can match it. And... the breach PR? In a good place? It has the lowest DPS by far of any automatic weapon. Hell, a flaylock can compete with its damage output on splash. As well as the shortest rifle range and the lowest automatic RoF. Amarrians would prefer you be faithful. I'd rather you be logical. Your friendly neighborhood Swarm Scrub. -HAND
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares 4701	Posted - 2014.06.05 22:21:00 - [23] - Quote Sgt Kirk wrote: True Adamance wrote: Aisha if you aren't lasering right now you aren't even Amarrian. Coincidentally CCP has not a single skill point into lasers. They use the AUR version. You really expect them to use weapons that they can't balance properly?
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10486	Posted - 2014.06.05 22:46:00 - [24] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: True Adamance wrote: Aisha if you aren't lasering right now you aren't even Amarrian. Coincidentally CCP has not a single skill point into lasers. They use the AUR version. You really expect them to use weapons that they can't balance properly? LR is perfectly balanced. What are you two talking about? "You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength." -Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
danie braz Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic 43	Posted - 2014.06.05 23:01:00 - [25] - Quote Atiim wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: Time to dust off my Duvolle then! You'll drop your jaw at how good it is. I guarantee it. 2% buff did it? Fluoride uranium carbon potassium bismuth technetium helium sulfur germanium thulium Molybdenum neon yttrium
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares 4701	Posted - 2014.06.05 23:15:00 - [26] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: True Adamance wrote: Aisha if you aren't lasering right now you aren't even Amarrian. Coincidentally CCP has not a single skill point into lasers. They use the AUR version. You really expect them to use weapons that they can't balance properly? LR is perfectly balanced. What are you two talking about? LR is still very meh to me
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10490	Posted - 2014.06.05 23:32:00 - [27] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: True Adamance wrote: Aisha Ctarl wrote: Sgt Kirk wrote: True Adamance wrote: Aisha if you aren't lasering right now you aren't even Amarrian. Coincidentally CCP has not a single skill point into lasers. They use the AUR version. You really expect them to use weapons that they can't balance properly? LR is perfectly balanced. What are you two talking about? LR is still very meh to me Aero and I don't feel that way. Some of our matches all you see is Aero Yassavi - "RawSpark" Viziam Laser Rifle XxScrub/Heretic/heathenxX True Adamance - "RawSpark" Viziam Laser Rifle XxScrub/Heretic/heathenxX True Adamance - "RawSpark" Viziam Laser Rifle XxScrub/Heretic/heathenxX Aero Yassavi - "RawSpark" Viziam Laser Rifle XxScrub/Heretic/heathenxX "You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength." -Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares 4702	Posted - 2014.06.06 02:21:00 - [28] - Quote Using assault suits I presume?
Forever ETC Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 509	Posted - 2014.06.06 02:26:00 - [29] - Quote Aero uses Commando like a boss Lock me Bro. I DARE YOU!!! PS News R.A.W- Rich and Worthless
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10497	Posted - 2014.06.06 02:49:00 - [30] - Quote Forever ETC wrote: Aero uses Commando like a boss So do I you ass "You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength." -Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon

True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10497	Posted - 2014.06.06 02:50:00 - [31] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Using assault suits I presume? Nope only Commando. I am only a Commando/ Tanker "You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength." -Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 9155	Posted - 2014.06.06 02:53:00 - [32] - Quote True, Fire, and Aero have inspired me to become one of the only two Commando users in PC. It's amazing how underestimated these suits are. Amarrians would prefer you be faithful. I'd rather you be logical. Your friendly neighborhood Swarm Scrub. -HAND
True Adamance Praetoriani Classiarii Templares Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 10497	Posted - 2014.06.06 03:01:00 - [33] - Quote Atiim wrote: True, Fire, and Aero have inspired me to become one of the only two Commando users in PC. It's amazing how underestimated these suits are. Join us as we combat the Rebel scum and we shall inspire you some more "You are weak Ouryon....weakness serves not the Empire. I shall teach you strength." -Yurius of the Brutor to Ouryon
Aisha Ctarl Praetoriani Classiarii Templares 4702	Posted - 2014.06.06 03:13:00 - [34] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Atiim wrote: True, Fire, and Aero have inspired me to become one of the only two Commando users in PC. It's amazing how underestimated these suits are. Join us as we combat the Rebel scum and we shall inspire you some more I don't think Atiim will ever see the light. :(
DozersMouse XIII Inner.Hell 834	Posted - 2014.06.06 03:17:00 - [35] - Quote Aisha Ctarl wrote: Atiim wrote: In terms of viability: HMG = AR = CR = RR = ScR \| MD = LR > PLC \| FG > SL >PLC ScRs are still viable if you only fight Shield Tankers, which should be increasingly common once the Shield/Armor imbalance is taken care of. Plasma Rifles got the buff they finally needed, and are now the HMG of Conventional Rifles. Even the Breach PR is in a good place now. Time to dust off my Duvolle then! duv has been great for me I have yet to try the lower tiers since alpha hotfix tho don't harm the hamsters
Atiim Heaven's Lost Property Dirt Nap Squad. 9156	Posted - 2014.06.06 13:02:00 - [36] - Quote True Adamance wrote: Atiim wrote: True, Fire, and Aero have inspired me to become one of the only two Commando users in PC. It's amazing how underestimated these suits are. Join us as we combat the Rebel scum and we shall inspire you some more Sure! Lolno. Amarrians would prefer you be faithful. I'd rather you be logical. Your friendly neighborhood Swarm Scrub. -HAND


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