DUST Search - R U Trained to see cloaks yet?

Beren Hurin wrote:

I'm realizing that the more I play, the more natural this becomes. One especially important thing is the contrast of the shimmer in different lighting scenarios.

It's harder to see on lighter/brighter backgrounds like brown/beige/tan rocky layers, inside of shadows, indoors, against grey exteriors, underneath overhangs, etc, it becomes MUCH easier to spot this. Knowing what terrains and horizons will contrast cloaks well then starts to make you realize when you need to be watching more for them.

When you know that there are cloaks around it starts to become important to do things like minimize your time with your back to open areas, know where scouts would likely approach from, force pathways through bottlenecks, etc.

Also, scanning scouts are smart and know when you've spotted them. It always a clever thing to not stare directly toward them when they are in pursuit mode to give off that they are spotted unless you are ready to kill them. Tossing a grenade and a opening up fire will help your chances.

Also, I wonder if it would be possible to give bonus points to killing cloaked players.

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Beren Hurin Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 2397	Posted - 2014.06.05 13:22:00 - [1] - Quote I'm realizing that the more I play, the more natural this becomes. One especially important thing is the contrast of the shimmer in different lighting scenarios. It's harder to see on lighter/brighter backgrounds like brown/beige/tan rocky layers, inside of shadows, indoors, against grey exteriors, underneath overhangs, etc, it becomes MUCH easier to spot this. Knowing what terrains and horizons will contrast cloaks well then starts to make you realize when you need to be watching more for them. When you know that there are cloaks around it starts to become important to do things like minimize your time with your back to open areas, know where scouts would likely approach from, force pathways through bottlenecks, etc. Also, scanning scouts are smart and know when you've spotted them. It always a clever thing to not stare directly toward them when they are in pursuit mode to give off that they are spotted unless you are ready to kill them. Tossing a grenade and a opening up fire will help your chances. Also, I wonder if it would be possible to give bonus points to killing cloaked players.
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 971	Posted - 2014.06.05 13:26:00 - [2] - Quote Yup I see most of the cloaked scouts but in some areas its pretty difficult lowering the ingame brightness helped a lot though. Funny enough I find it by now easier to see cloaked scout far away than the ones close to me . But I would say I spot roughly 70 to 80 percent of the scouts in my field of view (without scanning them). Weather I can react properly or not is indeed another story
Lorhak Gannarsein Legio DXIV 3383	Posted - 2014.06.05 13:26:00 - [3] - Quote That would be easy bonus points. The times I miss the scouts, though, are the times it matters; the ones where I'm otherwise occupied and the cloak gives him just enough invisibility to get around me. BlowoutForCPM
Scheneighnay McBob The Last of DusT. General Tso's Alliance 5165	Posted - 2014.06.05 14:16:00 - [4] - Quote Cloaks almost seem counterproductive unless you really get them down. I noticed that at range, the cloaking animation can draw attention to a scout you normally wouldn't have noticed. It's an extremely obvious flash and glimmer. Due to that, I only cloak when I'm beyond the crest of a hill, behind a wall, or inside a building. péñpâ¦pé+pâìpââpâêpü«tÄïµºÿpüïpéÅpüäpüä pé¦pâ+pé¦pâ½pâäpâ¬pâ¦pé¦pâ¼pâ+pâêpü»sñ¬S+ïpéè
DJINN Loki 167	Posted - 2014.06.05 14:38:00 - [5] - Quote the best thing to do as a non-cloker is stop and survey the land for a brief second. i run a cloaked scout and i still do this. i hug a wall or something that i can duck behind and i will stop as i run and look for that shimmer. what you have to understand is that scouts only have so much time with the cloak to be active that they have to sprint across the land and if you stop and watch for this, you can see them. in CQC it can a bit tricky, especially when they run into you as you run, but that just comes down to luck and your reaction time. another thing to keep in mind is that a scout lives off the radar. i can see almost everyone on their except other dampened scouts. i will watch the radar and wait for the right moment to strike. if your a heavy or logi, the best thing you can do is constantly turn, back and fourth. if i see this on the radar, its going to be difficult for me to get in there and catch you off guard. logis, when your healing a heavy in your team, don't look at the same direction that they are facing. the triage tool will keep a lock on the heavy even if you have your back to them. you watch the backside and they cover the front. much better chance to catch us invisible people. word
Heimdallr69 2491	Posted - 2014.06.05 14:55:00 - [6] - Quote I've always been able to.. I came from AVP AJL so these cloaks are nothing Removed inappropriate content - CCP Logibro
JIMvc2 UNREAL WARRIORS 174	Posted - 2014.06.05 15:14:00 - [7] - Quote When I see a cloak in a day or night environment, its easy for me to see them. If you run Cloak, prepare to die. No one comes out alive when Im a match. If you run proto gear, prepare to suffer the consequences. You've been warned.
Ryme Intrinseca The Rainbow Effect 1309	Posted - 2014.06.05 19:21:00 - [8] - Quote Beren Hurin wrote: It's harder to see on lighter/brighter backgrounds like brown/beige/tan Lol at Dust's colour pallet.
Pvt Numnutz Watchdoge Explosives 1382	Posted - 2014.06.05 19:26:00 - [9] - Quote I'm getting there but on my low def TV its pretty hard to see the shimmer unless they are close but then it doesn't matter anyway. Though I'm much better at seeing it than when it first came out yes
TechMechMeds Inner.Hell 3504	Posted - 2014.06.05 19:49:00 - [10] - Quote I can see them fine but I'd love to be able to hear them. If you stop moving You die Dance with me

TechMechMeds Inner.Hell 3504	Posted - 2014.06.05 19:51:00 - [11] - Quote Ryme Intrinseca wrote: Beren Hurin wrote: It's harder to see on lighter/brighter backgrounds like brown/beige/tan Lol at Dust's colour pallet. Black, Brown, grey, yellow, red, green and ding ding blue. Some with a polish. If you stop moving You die Dance with me
TechMechMeds Inner.Hell 3504	Posted - 2014.06.05 19:53:00 - [12] - Quote Everyone turn the brightness up. Gewd grafiks. If you stop moving You die Dance with me
jaksol JAK darnson Kameira Lodge Amarr Empire 9	Posted - 2014.06.09 01:51:00 - [13] - Quote Beren Hurin wrote: I'm realizing that the more I play, the more natural this becomes. One especially important thing is the contrast of the shimmer in different lighting scenarios. It's harder to see on lighter/brighter backgrounds like brown/beige/tan rocky layers, inside of shadows, indoors, against grey exteriors, underneath overhangs, etc, it becomes MUCH easier to spot this. Knowing what terrains and horizons will contrast cloaks well then starts to make you realize when you need to be watching more for them. When you know that there are cloaks around it starts to become important to do things like minimize your time with your back to open areas, know where scouts would likely approach from, force pathways through bottlenecks, etc. Also, scanning scouts are smart and know when you've spotted them. It always a clever thing to not stare directly toward them when they are in pursuit mode to give off that they are spotted unless you are ready to kill them. Tossing a grenade and a opening up fire will help your chances. Also, I wonder if it would be possible to give bonus points to killing cloaked players. i noticed them from the start but thats becouse i played halo multiplayer with inviablity with my friends for years and there harder to see "Sacrifice is a choice you make. Loss is a choice made for you."
Michael Arck 4653	Posted - 2014.06.09 01:55:00 - [14] - Quote Yea, for a while now. Most of the people who said that didn't bother looking. I know I've said this before but when I saw I cloaked scout, it reminded me of seeing dark matter. When dark matter passes by an object, the viewer would begin to see distortion's to the object's shape that its passing. So I really don't know how people weren't seeing it, unless they were on SD televisions. Anything that didn't look normal should catch your attention. You know the rock formation wasn't looking like that before LOL @ the MinSen today who stood in front of me while I was cloaked and still, looking back and forth, wondering why his reticule was red. He did not shoot, and he kept looking left and right for two minutes. Archistrategos *Where the fear has gone there will be nothing....only I will remain*
Louis Domi Pradox One Proficiency V. 344	Posted - 2014.06.09 03:11:00 - [15] - Quote Its really easy to see them now, If you suspect a cloaked scout is in the area, just look at the environment, if even just a little bit looks even a tiny bit distorted shoot it, ask questions later. Its fairly easy if you can't do it this late in the game you have no adaptability, only problem is when they come from the sides or the back(My blind spots), and if they do, don't blame the cloak, you wouldn't have seen them anyway.
Louis Domi Pradox One Proficiency V. 344	Posted - 2014.06.09 03:15:00 - [16] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Cloaks almost seem counterproductive unless you really get them down. I noticed that at range, the cloaking animation can draw attention to a scout you normally wouldn't have noticed. It's an extremely obvious flash and glimmer. Due to that, I only cloak when I'm beyond the crest of a hill, behind a wall, or inside a building. Cloaking out in the open.. I laugh when i kill those scout, also helps that My cal scout see's those children on the tac net and they have a little red dot on top of their head
Viktor Hadah Jr Negative-Impact The East India Co. 4154	Posted - 2014.06.09 06:09:00 - [17] - Quote Never been a problem for me, because i can see everything, i can see the matrix... Viktor for CPM I'll ring for free(Multiple roles, 50Mil SP) Chat Channel: Vik PC
Lynn Beck Heaven's Lost Property 1737	Posted - 2014.06.09 06:23:00 - [18] - Quote Before Alpha, i was starting to get REALLY paranoid: My minja(lv4) has problems fitting a compact/needle combo with decent modules, let alone a flippin cloak. So naturally, i was preyed upon by every other scout in-game, and wuickly developed this irrational fear of Cloaks/squigglies in my eye(yeah those) Now? It's all kinda Meh. Still easy to see, yes, freaking out IRL and twitching my right index finger whenever a squiggly or ghostly figure comes into view? Nah.. General John Ripper Like ALL the things!!!
Cavani1EE7 The Rainbow Effect 74	Posted - 2014.06.09 06:40:00 - [19] - Quote The Cloack is for peasants. 1337
Sgt Kirk Fatal Absolution 5954	Posted - 2014.06.09 06:57:00 - [20] - Quote Never put a point past level 1 in cloak. Of all sad words of tongue and pen the saddest are these, 'it might have been'



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