DUST Search - blaster cannon disperstion.

Vitharr Foebane wrote:

Himiko Kuronaga wrote:

Vitharr Foebane wrote:

Wanna murder infantry? Buck up and get a small turret...

That's rather stupid logic considering the only other role for a tank is to kill other tanks.

If a tank can't do anything other than kill a tank, then there is no reason to field the tank in the first place now is there? A smart team would just ignore the enemy tanks and proceed to murder infantry and cap the points.

WRONG!!!! the role for a LARGE TURRET is AV but you see the trouble with "tankers" is that they are inherently selfish lazy loners and thus cannot wrap their mind around the fact that they have more then one turret slot namely the small turrets. The moment it was no longer required to fit small turrets the "tankers" dumped them and any shred of teamplay that remained and became infantry farmers. Well now they can't do that anymore so like I said wanna murder infantry...? get a small turret.

P.S. "tankers" are not pilots they are a sub set of vehicle operators that use a tank like a dropsuit and have no interest in tank battles only killing those who cannot defend themselves. When threatened flee with the power of their queefs

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Racro 01 Arifistan 501st Knights of Leanbox 350	Posted - 2014.06.05 06:27:00 - [1] - Quote most likely going to get hate for this but............... the blaster cannon dispersion is **** ridiculous. after firing 10 rounds its dispersion goes though the roof. 10 rounds is only the first little line on the heat indicator and with 10 rounds that's probably only 1 kill. aiming down sights should be more accurate than form shooting form 3rd person view. the dispersion should be lowered. and begin to disperse at 1/2 heat. orrrr......put the blaster cannon back where it was and have an increased damage falloff at range. (would have been better) but serisly after 10 rounds with an ion cannon and watching a fckn millita heavy continue to stroll towords blueberrys and mutilate them with a hmg is appalling. and as with tank v tank combat. the blaster dispersion is still far to high on that. Elite Gallenten Soldier**
Vitharr Foebane Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 1281	Posted - 2014.06.05 07:16:00 - [2] - Quote Wanna murder infantry? Buck up and get a small turret... Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 971	Posted - 2014.06.05 07:45:00 - [3] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Wanna murder infantry? Buck up and get a small turret... This and a gunner of course or be a sitting duck.
Sequal Rise Les Desanusseurs 29	Posted - 2014.06.05 09:26:00 - [4] - Quote Do you think infantry can kill many people with 10 bullets? While being protected under a maddy repper tank? While having a huge amount of bullets to use? Every weapons in the game have dispersion and a blaster dispersion is absolutely normal. Unfortunately you must now aim a little (very little) to kill someone. I can't understand how you can even complain about blaster/ion cannon damages.
Racro 01 Arifistan 501st Knights of Leanbox 350	Posted - 2014.06.06 06:05:00 - [5] - Quote Sequal Rise wrote: Do you think infantry can kill many people with 10 bullets? While being protected under a maddy repper tank? While having a huge amount of bullets to use? Every weapons in the game have dispersion and a blaster dispersion is absolutely normal. Unfortunately you must now aim a little (very little) to kill someone. I can't understand how you can even complain about blaster/ion cannon damages. if you even understood at how many shotts you fire and how many will actually land. the blaster has very bad dispersion rate. iam not saying I want to muder infantry. I'd rather tear tanks apart. but with how bad the dispersion is it makes it more difficult to do. and good luck dealing with heavies. blasters were a very effective counter to killing groups of heavies with logis. but I suppose everyone wanted it to be heavy best counters heavy. but not every one wants run heavy. so good luck at killing them. *Elite Gallenten Soldier*
Tallen Ellecon 1983	Posted - 2014.06.06 07:15:00 - [6] - Quote As someone who in the past month has taken up running a blaster Maddy I fully support the change. It's ridiculous how easy it was for me to rack up 20+ kills when the enemy had no rail tanks, at least now it requires me to get in close range to hit infantry. It is the Gallente way after all. I still can go 20+ kills a match though, they just have to be really terrible red dots. Blehh..
Apothecary Za'ki Biomass Positive 27	Posted - 2014.06.06 14:53:00 - [7] - Quote tbh the dispersal needs to be more as with the dispersal atm its a little easier to hit close/mid range inf while they are sprinting Nanite Injectors! Nanite Injectors Everywhere! Minmatar Logibro in training. Rusty needles anyone?
Vitharr Foebane Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire 1286	Posted - 2014.06.06 15:32:00 - [8] - Quote Racro 01 Arifistan wrote: Sequal Rise wrote: Do you think infantry can kill many people with 10 bullets? While being protected under a maddy repper tank? While having a huge amount of bullets to use? Every weapons in the game have dispersion and a blaster dispersion is absolutely normal. Unfortunately you must now aim a little (very little) to kill someone. I can't understand how you can even complain about blaster/ion cannon damages. if you even understood at how many shotts you fire and how many will actually land. the blaster has very bad dispersion rate. iam not saying I want to muder infantry. I'd rather tear tanks apart. but with how bad the dispersion is it makes it more difficult to do. and good luck dealing with heavies. blasters were a very effective counter to killing groups of heavies with logis. but I suppose everyone wanted it to be heavy best counters heavy. but not every one wants run heavy. so good luck at killing them. wanna kill a heavy? out range him, out strafe him, and if he has a logi remember... he has splash resistance but his logi does not Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Arkena Wyrnspire Fatal Absolution 14134	Posted - 2014.06.06 15:56:00 - [9] - Quote "Oh no, I can't kill people in 10 bullets with laser accuracy anymore!" You have long since made your choice. What you make now is a mistake.
Sound vvave Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 1	Posted - 2014.06.06 17:32:00 - [10] - Quote racro the dispersion is fine iv used the blaster since 1.6 its currently maxed out it was ridiculous how i could kill people from 122 meters away if they didn't get to cover fast enough ( eff at 122 was 25% or around there) the problem i see with the blaster is there are no module's to decrease you'r heat (therefore decrease dispersion) therefore i propose instead of whining about it that we can get the active high slot heat sink from 1.6 back or maybe a skill book with X6 sp that decreases cooldown time on the heat or an x6 dispersion decrease skill book cause iv got 3.5 mill in my blaster turret and i feel your frustration but the gun was overpowered before i just wish i could do something about it currently Either by module or skill PS. some of the heat sink stats such as cooldown and active time would probably need to be changed to fit in with 1.8

Spartan MK420 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 483	Posted - 2014.06.06 20:45:00 - [11] - Quote -1 I'm loving the soma/sica tanks with basic blasters not murdering me. The Ion cannon feels like it's almost in a good place,i can jump, bob and weave, and actually survive as long as cover is nearby. But if I'm in the open, I get murdered by it. Which is more balanced than it just murdering me 2 sec flat, no matter what I do :p Support Assault changes
Spartan MK420 D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 483	Posted - 2014.06.06 20:51:00 - [12] - Quote Spartan MK420 wrote: -1 I'm loving the soma/sica tanks with basic blasters not murdering me. The Ion cannon feels like it's almost in a good place,i can jump, bob and weave, and actually survive as long as cover is nearby. But if I'm in the open, I get murdered by it. Which is more balanced than it just murdering me 2 sec flat, no matter what I do :p With the dispersion being up like this at longer ranges, it makes room for.....dun dun dunnnn.....an amar laser turret in LEGION. and maybe even.....a quick style, light weight matari tank with rapid firing grenade launchers with limited ammo, as a crowd control unit :P I dunno..... LEGION sadface. Support Assault changes
Godin Thekiller shadows of 514 2539	Posted - 2014.06.07 07:54:00 - [13] - Quote lol. Deal with it. It's a large turret. And I drive mostly Gal HAV's with blasters. click me Blup Blub Bloop. Translation: Die -_-
Sound vvave Ghosts of Dawn General Tso's Alliance 2	Posted - 2014.06.11 15:27:00 - [14] - Quote Godin Thekiller wrote: lol. Deal with it. It's a large turret. And I drive mostly Gal HAV's with blasters. so ur saying the that all the large turrets such as the railgun and missle should be this way wrose then the 20gj varint (there fixing the small blasters)
Harpyja Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 1861	Posted - 2014.06.11 15:43:00 - [15] - Quote Sequal Rise wrote: Do you think infantry can kill many people with 10 bullets? While being protected under a maddy repper tank? While having a huge amount of bullets to use? Every weapons in the game have dispersion and a blaster dispersion is absolutely normal. Unfortunately you must now aim a little (very little) to kill someone. I can't understand how you can even complain about blaster/ion cannon damages. I'd like to argue on the contrary for what you say on aiming. Before you had to be able to aim. Pinpoint precision requires good aim. An infantry target running with high angular velocity required very good player aim to track. Just being off by a fraction of a meter was not enough to hit, you had to be precise and accurate. Not everyone could do that, and I had many times where I struggled to kill someone. Now, it's just shoot somewhere near the target and hope for the best as you can no longer control where your shots go. Anyone can just spray and pray. "By His light, and His will" - The Scriptures, Gheinok the First, 12:32
Mobius Wyvern Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 5293	Posted - 2014.06.11 16:30:00 - [16] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Wanna murder infantry? Buck up and get a small turret... No respect for anyone that doesn't fit Small Turrets.
Himiko Kuronaga Fatal Absolution General Tso's Alliance 4402	Posted - 2014.06.11 16:46:00 - [17] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Wanna murder infantry? Buck up and get a small turret... That's rather stupid logic considering the only other role for a tank is to kill other tanks. If a tank can't do anything other than kill a tank, then there is no reason to field the tank in the first place now is there? A smart team would just ignore the enemy tanks and proceed to murder infantry and cap the points.
Vitharr Foebane Terminal Courtesy 1316	Posted - 2014.06.11 17:17:00 - [18] - Quote Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Wanna murder infantry? Buck up and get a small turret... That's rather stupid logic considering the only other role for a tank is to kill other tanks. If a tank can't do anything other than kill a tank, then there is no reason to field the tank in the first place now is there? A smart team would just ignore the enemy tanks and proceed to murder infantry and cap the points. WRONG!!!! the role for a LARGE TURRET is AV but you see the trouble with "tankers" is that they are inherently selfish lazy loners and thus cannot wrap their mind around the fact that they have more then one turret slot namely the small turrets. The moment it was no longer required to fit small turrets the "tankers" dumped them and any shred of teamplay that remained and became infantry farmers. Well now they can't do that anymore so like I said wanna murder infantry...? get a small turret. P.S. "tankers" are not pilots they are a sub set of vehicle operators that use a tank like a dropsuit and have no interest in tank battles only killing those who cannot defend themselves. When threatened flee with the power of their queefs Amarr: Sentinel V Scout V Assault IV Commando IV Logistics IV I place my faith in my God, my Empress, and my Laz0r
Tread Loudly 2 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5	Posted - 2014.06.11 17:22:00 - [19] - Quote As a tanker I believe that the dispersion is also BS. Even for Tank vs. Tanks the blaster is near useless. I can snipe infantry better with a large rail at 250-300m than I can infantry with a blaster at 40-50M and that shouldn't be able to happen the dispersion should be either far less or near non existent unless shooting at a certain range. However as it is right now I can run my min. Heavy up next to a tank and just run around it's turret and not get hit... I Like Tanks, ADS's, and Ion Pistols!
Tread Loudly 2 Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 5	Posted - 2014.06.11 17:26:00 - [20] - Quote Vitharr Foebane wrote: Himiko Kuronaga wrote: Vitharr Foebane wrote: Wanna murder infantry? Buck up and get a small turret... That's rather stupid logic considering the only other role for a tank is to kill other tanks. If a tank can't do anything other than kill a tank, then there is no reason to field the tank in the first place now is there? A smart team would just ignore the enemy tanks and proceed to murder infantry and cap the points. WRONG!!!! the role for a LARGE TURRET is AV but you see the trouble with "tankers" is that they are inherently selfish lazy loners and thus cannot wrap their mind around the fact that they have more then one turret slot namely the small turrets. The moment it was no longer required to fit small turrets the "tankers" dumped them and any shred of teamplay that remained and became infantry farmers. Well now they can't do that anymore so like I said wanna murder infantry...? get a small turret. P.S. "tankers" are not pilots they are a sub set of vehicle operators that use a tank like a dropsuit and have no interest in tank battles only killing those who cannot defend themselves. When threatened flee with the power of their queefs There are only three turrets I do not have proto yet. Those are small rail/ small blaster and large missles. Large turrets are meant for AV in most cases but if that's the case, small turrets are meant for anti-infanty? However I and some other players I know use LAV's to kill tanks not jihad jeeps simply a Lav and a particle accelerator on the back. I also use ADS and I can lay waste to vehicles as well as infantry, but a large blaster turret can't kill infantry what kind of since does that make? I Like Tanks, ADS's, and Ion Pistols!



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