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Godin Thekiller
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Posted - 2014.06.03 15:59:00 -
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Prius Vecht wrote:The cloak has a number of features that are bad for a tactical shooter and could use some tuning.
1. Its too long, the cloak time should be 20sec for STD, 40sec for ADV and 60sec for PROTO.
2. The CPM (and much of the veteran playerbase) asked for an obvious cloaking/decloaking sound, and one should be in Legion.
3. The cloak field should be disrupted if the cloaked person takes damage.
4. The switch from cloaked to weapon ready is too fast and rewards "gotcha" style gameplay , make the cloaked person hold the cortex so that uncloaking to actually firing on a target requires them to switch from cortex to weapon first.
1: Hell no. That solves nothing. Actually, it makes the life of an actual scout harder. I know you're trying to balace for combat scouts, but this isn't the way. Simply making two types of cloaks- a movement cloak with a long duration but has a decloak penalty timer similar to that of EVE's. Then have a combat cloak with a short duration and a long recharge (or same but deletes as soon as you decloak), but has little or no penalty time.
2: If it's obvious, again, that punishes the actual scout.
3: I'm fine with that.
4: Also fine with that
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Godin Thekiller
shadows of 514
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Posted - 2014.06.03 22:21:00 -
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Prius Vecht wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:Prius Vecht wrote:The cloak has a number of features that are bad for a tactical shooter and could use some tuning.
1. Its too long, the cloak time should be 20sec for STD, 40sec for ADV and 60sec for PROTO.
2. The CPM (and much of the veteran playerbase) asked for an obvious cloaking/decloaking sound, and one should be in Legion.
3. The cloak field should be disrupted if the cloaked person takes damage.
4. The switch from cloaked to weapon ready is too fast and rewards "gotcha" style gameplay , make the cloaked person hold the cortex so that uncloaking to actually firing on a target requires them to switch from cortex to weapon first. 1: Hell no. That solves nothing. Actually, it makes the life of an actual scout harder. I know you're trying to balace for combat scouts, but this isn't the way. Simply making two types of cloaks- a movement cloak with a long duration but has a decloak penalty timer similar to that of EVE's. Then have a combat cloak with a short duration and a long recharge (or same but deletes as soon as you decloak), but has little or no penalty time. 2: If it's obvious, again, that punishes the actual scout. 3: I'm fine with that. 4: Also fine with that Dude, you have some of the worst ideas and its pretty obvious that rather than trying to make the game better you're simply trying to enhance/preserve your playstyle...NO ONE CARES, BRO...seriously. 80 seconds is way too long and cloak/uncloak is more "gotcha" style gameplay.
You sir are a idiot, or didn't read my post. I think it's both.
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Godin Thekiller
shadows of 514
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Posted - 2014.06.03 22:26:00 -
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Hawk-eye Occultus wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:[...] Hell no. That solves nothing. Actually, it makes the life of an actual scout harder. I know you're trying to balace for combat scouts, but this isn't the way. Simply making two types of cloaks- a movement cloak with a long duration but has a decloak penalty timer similar to that of EVE's. Then have a combat cloak with a short duration and a long recharge (or same but deletes as soon as you decloak), but has little or no penalty time. [...] Short cloak times make the scout's job easier how? Although I do agree about different cloak varieties, although I would choose between the following: * "Normal" cloak: Has a short-medium cloaking time (between 15-35 seconds), depletes same rate regardless of movment. * Motion-sensitive cloak: Uses advanced- but unstable technologies that allow much longer cloak times (between 30-60 seconds), but looses charge extremely quickly if moving(moving faster will result in more charge loss, with sprinting being able to deplete the cloak in moments) , as well as becoming visible if moving faster than walking pace. * Min-vis cloak: You remain almost totally invisible regardless of movement speed, but have very limited charge (between 4-8 seconds). Become invisible to scanning while cloaked. Extended recharge time. Anyone who suggests something akin to the " Dead Ringer", get out.
1: Either that's a typo and you meant long, or you misread my statement. As for how, it would make it easier due to being able to more easily move undetected.
2: Those solve the Combat scout problem, but it pretty much rids the stealth scout of existing, again.
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Godin Thekiller
shadows of 514
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Posted - 2014.06.08 17:12:00 -
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Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:You sir are a idiot, or didn't read my post. I think it's both. See, you like to whinge about how no-one reads your threads. This kind of crap is why. What do you need eighty seconds of cloak for that you couldn't do in sixty seconds? In what way would a distinctive decloaking sound make a cloaked scout's life harder? See, you like to make these assertions but you never back them up until pressed. And then sometimes you say 'I can't be bothered'.
1: Humm.... What do you need 80 seconds for, when you can't do it in 60........... So you can do it?
2: Why is it bad for a Scout to have a sound that can him/her spotted? Because it'll get them spotted?
It's called common sense people. Get some.
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Godin Thekiller
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Posted - 2014.06.08 17:14:00 -
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Reiki Jubo wrote:Lorhak Gannarsein wrote:Godin Thekiller wrote:You sir are a idiot, or didn't read my post. I think it's both. See, you like to whinge about how no-one reads your threads. This kind of crap is why. What do you need eighty seconds of cloak for that you couldn't do in sixty seconds? In what way would a distinctive decloaking sound make a cloaked scout's life harder? See, you like to make these assertions but you never back them up until pressed. And then sometimes you say 'I can't be bothered'. just ignore Godin, lorhak thats what we all do. hes like the new version of that idiot tanker takashiro
Can you explain why? I say logic. He didn't. Devs actually like my ideas. Because you know, logic.
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