DUST Search - Dev response to ridiculous lag?

m twiggz wrote:

The lag in Dust has been utterly ridiculous for the past few weeks. More so this past week than the rest. I saw many threads made about this with zero Dev response, other than the one response in Alldins thread asking us for "region and time" of lag. Many of those threads were ignored, locked, deleted, and even led to a forum ban or two.

I'll direct this towards CCP Rat, for the case that he is our new main Dust Dev if I am not mistaken.

What is going on with the lag CCP Rat?

I can confirm it is NOT any of the following;

Regional.
Only specific players.
Only specific maps.
Only specific times.

The majority of the matches I have played today were completely unplayable. Constant rubber banding, coming out of lag dead - with a kill - or in a completely different area, hit detection is definitely being effected - not just from my experience but also from others who have been complaining about it in many of my chats and even local.

I've also been noticing a lot more EU and Asian corps playing on the American server these past few weeks. I doubt that has anything to do with it, but I'll just throw that in there. As I've been told by some of my EU and Asian friends their servers are also unbearably cluttered with lag.

Questions from the community;

Do you have any idea why this is happening?
Are people working on finding the problem?
Will it be fixed?
Did CCP downgrade servers?
Is CCP now sharing servers for lower cost?

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m twiggz Pradox One Proficiency V. 695	Posted - 2014.05.31 21:13:00 - [1] - Quote The lag in Dust has been utterly ridiculous for the past few weeks. More so this past week than the rest. I saw many threads made about this with zero Dev response, other than the one response in Alldins thread asking us for "region and time" of lag. Many of those threads were ignored, locked, deleted, and even led to a forum ban or two. I'll direct this towards CCP Rat, for the case that he is our new main Dust Dev if I am not mistaken. What is going on with the lag CCP Rat? I can confirm it is NOT any of the following; Regional. Only specific players. Only specific maps. Only specific times. The majority of the matches I have played today were completely unplayable. Constant rubber banding, coming out of lag dead - with a kill - or in a completely different area, hit detection is definitely being effected - not just from my experience but also from others who have been complaining about it in many of my chats and even local. I've also been noticing a lot more EU and Asian corps playing on the American server these past few weeks. I doubt that has anything to do with it, but I'll just throw that in there. As I've been told by some of my EU and Asian friends their servers are also unbearably cluttered with lag. Questions from the community; Do you have any idea why this is happening? Are people working on finding the problem? Will it be fixed? Did CCP downgrade servers? Is CCP now sharing servers for lower cost?
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 147	Posted - 2014.05.31 21:28:00 - [2] - Quote I play on automatic and notice it mostly vs. Latin corps.... And here comes the hate trolls. Lonewolf till I die
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 15266	Posted - 2014.05.31 21:30:00 - [3] - Quote Its usually the gallente lab for me and when I play yes its mostly latino, asian, austrilian, and the Uk folks on. CPM 0 Secretary Omni-Soldier, Forum Warrior, Annoying Artist \\= Advanced Gallente Logistics =// Unlocked
Zirzo Valcyn Gunners Acadamy 533	Posted - 2014.05.31 21:52:00 - [4] - Quote laser focused on core systems and more events... the game breaking lag for the last 3 months can wait u can ban the troll out of the forums but u can't ban the forums out of the troll. forum warrior .189
Schecter 666 Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 29	Posted - 2014.05.31 21:53:00 - [5] - Quote ill add in my report I play on the EU server, I live in England. I am for some reason noticing groups of Japanese players in my games, they could have set the server that way, maybe it just wasn't meant to happen but did? Give the Russians their own server, the lag is horrible. I find that South American corps seriously lag have no hit detection, that and all the cowards use rail rifles on ADV sentinel suits. The frame rate in some games has dropped to perhaps 10-15FPS. It doesn't matter which map you are on either.
L0RD CALVERT Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 32	Posted - 2014.05.31 22:03:00 - [6] - Quote stuff like lag will be fixed in legion, 5 frames per second builds character, rubber banding builds community. if it bothers you so much dont use a mass driver with next gen graphics and such a high player count the lag is expected inb4 ban AKA Sock Puppet King- supporting/liking/bromancing my own posts since 2012
Thurak1 Psygod9 763	Posted - 2014.05.31 22:11:00 - [7] - Quote This lagg must be another platform issue.
HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 148	Posted - 2014.05.31 22:13:00 - [8] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Its usually the gallente lab for me and when I play yes its mostly latino, asian, austrilian, and the Uk folks on. 250 mb connection... Lag shouldn't happen but it does. Even seen a guy die while I was reloading and got a kill I laughed but though that was b.s. Lonewolf till I die
Arcturis Vanguard Red Star. EoN. 117	Posted - 2014.05.31 22:18:00 - [9] - Quote I'm in agreement with the lag. It's getting worse by the day. Some games are...Well...somewhat bearable? Others are infuriating. BF4 gets massive lag when you bring down very large builds, but that's to be expected with the mechanics of what is actually happening. Environment isn't destructible in dust so there should be no excuse as to way it's happening.....consistently. My guess is another sign from ccp letting us know dust will die sooner then later. Amarr Heavy_ Amarr Assault_ Caldari Scout
x-Taste-x THOSE GUYS INC 6	Posted - 2014.05.31 22:57:00 - [10] - Quote Can confirm the banning of a player for complaining about lag. I suggest we send in petitions to [email protected] Whomever did the banning must have read the post to know to move them to technical support. So ignorance of these issues can't be claimed, that leaves complacency or denial. As seen in other dev posts they seem to be in denial that in fact there is a huge new rubber banding lag issue being observed by everyone.

Cpl Foster USMC The dyst0pian Corporation Zero-Day 927	Posted - 2014.05.31 22:59:00 - [11] - Quote they sent their answers 5 minutes ago but.... you know... the lag..... "I'm good till 10, but after that it gets weird man" Stoned Bear learning to count on my kids morning cartoon show..
JP Acuna Pendejitos Zero-Day 168	Posted - 2014.05.31 23:26:00 - [12] - Quote Lately, i'd say that 3 out of 5 matches suffer from rubber banding. It happens to all players in the match at the same time, on any map. It's happening too often, (Plus the frame rate lag. I can't fly a dropship on the Research Lab without having to quit later because it just breaks, gets unplayable)
aaaasdff ertgfdd Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2014.06.01 00:00:00 - [13] - Quote m twiggz wrote: The lag in Dust has been utterly ridiculous for the past few weeks. More so this past week than the rest. I saw many threads made about this with zero Dev response, other than the one response in Alldins thread asking us for "region and time" of lag. Many of those threads were ignored, locked, deleted, and even led to a forum ban or two. I'll direct this towards CCP Rat, for the case that he is our new main Dust Dev if I am not mistaken. What is going on with the lag CCP Rat? I can confirm it is NOT any of the following; Regional. Only specific players. Only specific maps. Only specific times. The majority of the matches I have played today were completely unplayable. Constant rubber banding, coming out of lag dead - with a kill - or in a completely different area, hit detection is definitely being effected - not just from my experience but also from others who have been complaining about it in many of my chats and even local. I've also been noticing a lot more EU and Asian corps playing on the American server these past few weeks. I doubt that has anything to do with it, but I'll just throw that in there. As I've been told by some of my EU and Asian friends their servers are also unbearably cluttered with lag. Questions from the community; Do you have any idea why this is happening? Are people working on finding the problem? Will it be fixed? Did CCP downgrade servers? Is CCP now sharing servers for lower cost? Bump, cause this is all true and needs to be addressed.
aaaasdff ertgfdd Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 3	Posted - 2014.06.01 00:04:00 - [14] - Quote Is it possible that a smaller player base is bringing people from other regions into the American servers and they simply have huge lag? Ive always played American server region, and I seem to notice more lag when there is large amounts of non American players in the server. Ccp Rat needs to understand thks is NOT framerate drop, this is true bandwidth server lag.....
SHOOOOTER Ostrakon Agency Gallente Federation 191	Posted - 2014.06.01 00:45:00 - [15] - Quote Hmm is there any region not suffering this? It can't be individuals internet if the whole team is suffering from it right? That would have to mean its server side right?
Chunky Munkey Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 4785	Posted - 2014.06.01 00:47:00 - [16] - Quote Perhaps the drop in players is forcing you into international matches. RIP Stinky Sleeve. RIP Dust514. See you on Destiny. PSN: GSDSteVB
gauntlet44 LbowDeep Heaven84 Devils General Tso's Alliance 50	Posted - 2014.06.01 00:52:00 - [17] - Quote feels more like lag compensation Absorb what is useful, discard what is not, make it uniquely your own........ Bruce Lee
Mike De Luca Storm Wind Strikeforce Caldari State 87	Posted - 2014.06.01 01:17:00 - [18] - Quote Playing on the 'Murica server, lag happens about 3/4 of the time for me. It's hard enough to get my 3 shots off to down an ads without them running away as is, don't need this crap too. For Borderlands 1/2, or Castlevania: Harmony of Despair co-op, feel free to add me on psn deluca627,
fragmentedhackslash Last VenDetta. 279	Posted - 2014.06.01 02:05:00 - [19] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Its usually the gallente lab for me and when I play yes its mostly latino, asian, austrilian, and the Uk folks on. Why are Australian players on US servers? It is because the AFK and killboosting has never been fixed. Everything I do on a US server is affected, my hit dettextion, my movement speed, my ping, my UVT turning robot, but I put up with that because it's better than fighting your arse off with 12 reds, while looking at 8 AFK blues and 4 killboosters. Pain is just weakness leaving your body. Every day is a holiday. Every meal is a feast.
The-DON of-DOT-MAFIA The DOT MAFIA 7	Posted - 2014.06.01 03:33:00 - [20] - Quote L0RD CALVERT wrote: stuff like lag will be fixed in legion, 5 frames per second builds character, rubber banding builds community. if it bothers you so much dont use a mass driver with next gen graphics and such a high player count the lag is expected inb4 ban your an idiot

deezy dabest Warpoint Sharx 586	Posted - 2014.06.01 03:44:00 - [21] - Quote The lag does seem to be growing worse by the day. I figure they have scaled back the servers to keep from taking losses thanks to decreased AUR sales. They probably should have just shut down the Oceania server if they wanted to save money. FIX THE LAG Laser focused in a room full of mirrors. Everything you ever wanted coming SoonGäó just keep buying boosters.
Ceadda Sai Legions of Infinite Dominion Zero-Day 74	Posted - 2014.06.01 03:54:00 - [22] - Quote The-DON of-DOT-MAFIA wrote: L0RD CALVERT wrote: stuff like lag will be fixed in legion, 5 frames per second builds character, rubber banding builds community. if it bothers you so much dont use a mass driver with next gen graphics and such a high player count the lag is expected inb4 ban you're an idiot Fixed it for you. Forge Gunners: Now this is a gun for going out and and making people miserable with.
Adipem Nothi Nos Nothi 1207	Posted - 2014.06.01 04:25:00 - [23] - Quote Schecter 666 wrote: ill add in my report I play on the EU server, I live in England. ... It doesn't matter which map you are on either. Experiencing similar problems on US Servers. Increase in lag spikes independent of map / mode / time. Shoot scout with yes... - Ripley Riley
m twiggz Pradox One Proficiency V. 700	Posted - 2014.06.01 09:22:00 - [24] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Its usually the gallente lab for me and when I play yes its mostly latino, asian, austrilian, and the Uk folks on. The lag on the Gallente Research Facility has been known since the map/socket release. This issue is far beyond that. Its happening on any map, at any given time. Always lasts the entire duration of the match, start to finish. The lag may disperse for a moment or two throughout the match, but those moments are literally seconds and very few and far between. As a CPM perhaps you can get us information regarding this issue. I have yet to see a proper Dev response to the many posts and threads already made about it. Which is of course why I posted this one. This problem is effecting the last remainder of the Dust community. The ones that actually wanted to stick around and play, even the ones who may go to Legion. CCP is just digging themselves into a deeper hole with all of us at this point. We deserve answers.
lordjanuz Norwegian Dust514 Corporation Top Men. 434	Posted - 2014.06.01 09:24:00 - [25] - Quote I also had very bad lag yesterday , worst ever. I am sitting on one of the best Internett connection you can get, so its not on my end of line.
Piraten Hovnoret Molon Labe. General Tso's Alliance 592	Posted - 2014.06.01 10:24:00 - [26] - Quote HOWDIDHEKILLME wrote: I play on automatic and notice it mostly vs. Latin corps.... And here comes the hate trolls. Every time against them. I must ad I don't believe they are to blame it's more likely a sever/connection issue then he guys them self. side note 1: It's so bad I leave the game if I notice I am against a full Latino team. side note 2: I can live with this until the 9 of September War never changes
Velociraptor antirrhopus Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 116	Posted - 2014.06.01 10:39:00 - [27] - Quote i can't stand it anymore. I'm YouTubing this "insane Dust lag" thing. because it never happens to me. and when it does, it's minimal at best. GûéGûäGûà /Gûî /Gûî /Gûî Gûî GûêGûêGûàGûâGûé IGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûêGûê] GùÑGèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGû¦GèÖGùñn++
ANON Cerberus Tiny Toons 799	Posted - 2014.06.01 10:51:00 - [28] - Quote Im in the UK. I have decent internet. I would have to check / test this further to be sure BUT...... I do not get lag in the euro timezone, iot seems to get bad when the Americans start to log on. Afternoons UK time is great. When I am squad leader people always comment the 'ping' meter is very good for them. However when I join a squad and its getting late my time in the UK, thats when I always start to noticed the lag. Yesterday was really bad for a few games. Totally unplayable. Is it related to fights happening in EVE or is this the South American corps lagging us to kingdom come again?
Schecter 666 Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 34	Posted - 2014.06.01 13:12:00 - [29] - Quote x-Taste-x wrote: Can confirm the banning of a player for complaining about lag. I suggest we send in petitions to [email protected] Whomever did the banning must have read the post to know to move them to technical support. So ignorance of these issues can't be claimed, that leaves complacency or denial. As seen in other dev posts they seem to be in denial that in fact there is a huge new rubber banding lag issue being observed by everyone. people have been banned for less, my main is banned for 6m onths for a post i can't see and my alt is PERMA-BANNED, CCP are nothing short of archaic, when it comes to the game as well as the forums. i'll report it here because then the reports are in one place, if i send a ticket into CCP they will ask me 1000 questions and ask me to film it, just play your own god-damned game!!
Schecter 666 Onslaught Inc RISE of LEGION 34	Posted - 2014.06.01 13:13:00 - [30] - Quote ANON Cerberus wrote: Im in the UK. I have decent internet. I would have to check / test this further to be sure BUT...... I do not get lag in the euro timezone, iot seems to get bad when the Americans start to log on. Afternoons UK time is great. When I am squad leader people always comment the 'ping' meter is very good for them. However when I join a squad and its getting late my time in the UK, thats when I always start to noticed the lag. Yesterday was really bad for a few games. Totally unplayable. Is it related to fights happening in EVE or is this the South American corps lagging us to kingdom come again? that just sounds like your ISP throttling bandwidth in peak times.

HOWDIDHEKILLME Dying to Reload 154	Posted - 2014.06.01 14:05:00 - [31] - Quote I wonder what people think a good connection is... Never experienced lag on any other game when I had a 50 mb connection with 2-3 people at home online. Now I have a 250 mb connection, and will be upgrading to google fiber 1 gb connection soon. Maybe if their was no choice of server? Might eliminate boosting if they were seen doing it. Trying to avoid q-syncing proto stompers? Make it impossible. Mix everyone every round and rank it separately. Then maybe make PC cheaper with lower return so elites can fight each other in organized matches without it being a job? Lonewolf till I die
boba's fetta Dead Man's Game 658	Posted - 2014.06.01 14:09:00 - [32] - Quote bump. cause the rubberbanding is making me want to hurl after a drink or two.
Bethhy Ancient Exiles. General Tso's Alliance 1940	Posted - 2014.06.01 14:11:00 - [33] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Its usually the gallente lab for me and when I play yes its mostly latino, asian, austrilian, and the Uk folks on. CCP are trying to cut operational costs on DUST, Most people are relating this to server hub quality and believe CCP has switched.
boba's fetta Dead Man's Game 660	Posted - 2014.06.01 17:19:00 - [34] - Quote http://youtu.be/sLd2E6pNuyQ this is just a short clip that happened about 30 mins ago this is what we are dealing with, ive been fairly lucky today and this aside from a sniper model inn the ground nothing has really happened (two games in.) will see if i get anymore like this and ill move them into a folder called LAG so i dont losse them. dev's of you find stuff like this helpful let me know and ill be sure to provide you with the video files. (they have time stamps to) edited to add. yes the lav came to a full stop by itself at which point i decide its time to try and bail.
x-Taste-x THOSE GUYS INC 10	Posted - 2014.06.02 00:38:00 - [35] - Quote Maybe we will here something this month
m twiggz Pradox One Proficiency V. 710	Posted - 2014.06.02 04:52:00 - [36] - Quote x-Taste-x wrote: Maybe we will here something this month Sure hope so. I've also noticed Devs posting on other threads and completely ignoring this one.
LT SHANKS Amarr Templars Amarr Empire 2609	Posted - 2014.06.02 05:01:00 - [37] - Quote The lag is getting worse by the day. I don't mind exhausting all of my assets and proto fits, but if I'm losing them to lag and not through fair heated engagements, then what's the point of playing. I already capped last week Thursday so there's not much reason for me to play other than personal enjoyment. However, I can't even enjoy the game because of all of this nonsense.


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